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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 12:32pm Post subject: Poker is beginning to bore me (help FTR regs!) |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 7448
WPP: 71
Location: Doncaster, Eng-er-land
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You all know my poker story by now, i was a reasonably sucessful Bonus whore when whoring was good, built a br played 100nl and 1/2nl when it was super soft and made a good br and lots of profit followed by 80odd thousand dollars on a BBJ win
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ive become sloppy. i play maybe 10-15k hands each month (lame versus my university numbers of 50k per month) plus whenever i sit down at 1/2 2/4 it takes me 10 minutes to wake up and play decent poker.
Im happy with my game after i took it apart at christmas and put it back together and am a proven (at last) winner at 1/2nl and 2/4nl. My 1/2 winrate is pretty good, but my 2/4nl is pretty modest.
So where am i going?
Well, i now get very little time to play poker, maybe 10-15 hours per week if im lucky and every time i sit its either at 10pm for a 5 hour grind after 8hrs at work on a friday night or for an hour before tea on a weekday, where i dont get any rhythm.
So im considering my options and want to know what a lot of the established players on here think. Ive always made it clear ill make more from a 9-5.30 job than poker can provide (im never gona win the sunday million as i suck at mtt's) and true 10 table grinding on stars is going to make me $500 per mon th which seems kinda lame versus my 2k+ months last summer.
So anyone want to help here? Im considering HU poker to get in the hands versus bad players that should up my winrate, but again im scared ill get sloppy because i dont play so much.
Any advice? |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 2:30pm Post subject: Re: Poker is beginning to bore me (help FTR regs!) |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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WPP: 51
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | 10 table grinding on stars is going to make me $500 per mon th |
does 10-tabling 10 hours a week really only net you 2.5 buy-ins per month at 200nl? isn't that like 30k hands? |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 2:40pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 12 Aug 2005
Posts: 483
WPP: 100
Location: Miami, Florida
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Take some time off and after a week or so you will be itching to play again. Because of my job picking up and a new baby, I am also finding less time to play, but thankfully the level of play is the same and like riding a bike, you won't completely forget how to play.
Have you tried a different game for a change (Omaha?) |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 3:13pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 7448
WPP: 71
Location: Doncaster, Eng-er-land
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| Ltrain wrote: | Take some time off and after a week or so you will be itching to play again. Because of my job picking up and a new baby, I am also finding less time to play, but thankfully the level of play is the same and like riding a bike, you won't completely forget how to play.
Have you tried a different game for a change (Omaha?) |
i normally switch to 5 card draw when i get bored, but its the rigmaroll of sitting in front of a computer screen when i truly dont feel like it thats killing my love for the game |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 3:16pm Post subject: Re: Poker is beginning to bore me (help FTR regs!) |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
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Location: Doncaster, Eng-er-land
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| martindcx1e wrote: | | Miffed22001 wrote: | | 10 table grinding on stars is going to make me $500 per mon th |
does 10-tabling 10 hours a week really only net you 2.5 buy-ins per month at 200nl? isn't that like 30k hands? |
i did 600 hands per hour at fr (i cant possibly 9 table 6max like many can and still remain a winning player, ive tried already) by 2.5bbs/100 (generous at best) but i was thinking more like 100nl at maaaybe 3bbs/100 still only gives me 6-9 buy ins per month if im generous with the numbers.
Anyone have any good HU stats for winrates? |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 7:00pm Post subject: Re: Poker is beginning to bore me (help FTR regs!) |
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Flush
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 359
WPP: 87
Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | martindcx1e wrote: | | Miffed22001 wrote: | | 10 table grinding on stars is going to make me $500 per mon th |
does 10-tabling 10 hours a week really only net you 2.5 buy-ins per month at 200nl? isn't that like 30k hands? |
i did 600 hands per hour at fr (i cant possibly 9 table 6max like many can and still remain a winning player, ive tried already) by 2.5bbs/100 (generous at best) but i was thinking more like 100nl at maaaybe 3bbs/100 still only gives me 6-9 buy ins per month if im generous with the numbers.
Anyone have any good HU stats for winrates? |
It's hard to nail an expected win rate at HU. If you datamine and use careful table selection you can have a double digit win rate. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 11:25pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 13 Oct 2005
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Location: ontario
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I'd forfeit the modest earnings @ your current stake and drop down a level until you pwn the shit out of it. With practice Miffed, you personally should be able to grind out a solid +4bbpt/100 @ 100nl. That's like $80/hr if you 10 table FR. I apologize if this paragrapgh doesn't make sense and/or applies to you.
As for playing your 'A' game from the start of your session, I recommend a brief workout of the body. Try putting headphones on and listening to some good grinding poker music. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 12:15am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
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Location: Doncaster, Eng-er-land
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| BankItDrew wrote: | I'd forfeit the modest earnings @ your current stake and drop down a level until you pwn the shit out of it. With practice Miffed, you personally should be able to grind out a solid +4bbpt/100 @ 100nl. That's like $80/hr if you 10 table FR. I apologize if this paragrapgh doesn't make sense and/or applies to you.
As for playing your 'A' game from the start of your session, I recommend a brief workout of the body. Try putting headphones on and listening to some good grinding poker music. |
This is my general line of thought, i think i can 12-14 table without losing the winrate if i play 100nl, instead of 1/2, just not sure 4bbs/100 is a realistic target.
Probably mix in HU poker at a non-US site for a mix of when not runing os good perhaps. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 12:17am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 13 Oct 2005
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Location: ontario
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| what's with the facination with HU? baller fr 10 table fr ftw |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 2:00am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 07 Sep 2006
Posts: 306
WPP: 75
Location: UK, Brighton
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| pff I reckon your young. work all day grind all night sounds kinda sad to me. It also sounds like you have a conflict with expectation and possibilities. Play less tables play more poker? Either way, you have finite energy so consciously choose where you spend it. Take a break, re-evaluate. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 2:17am Post subject: |
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
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Location: Blowing Zook off his hand with Seven Deuce
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | i normally switch to 5 card draw when i get bored |
Have we played? |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 10:17am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
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Location: Doncaster, Eng-er-land
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| Fnord wrote: | | Miffed22001 wrote: | | i normally switch to 5 card draw when i get bored |
Have we played? |
possibly on stars although i dont know your SN.
Also, i normally inhabit the 5/10+ games on the Ongame network which doesnt allow americans  |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 2:26pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
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| Fnord wrote: | | Miffed22001 wrote: | | i normally switch to 5 card draw when i get bored |
Have we played? |
Are you Fnord on FTP? I think you were sitting at an Omaha table with me the other night. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 10:04pm Post subject: |
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High Card
Joined: 01 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 10:05pm Post subject: |
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High Card
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 10:05pm Post subject: |
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High Card
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Posted: Wed, 02 Apr 2008, 12:19am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
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Location: Doncaster, Eng-er-land
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| Fnord wrote: | | Miffed22001 wrote: | | i normally switch to 5 card draw when i get bored |
Have we played? |
actually i remember your sn now so no, not since 100nl about a year ago |
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Posted: Wed, 02 Apr 2008, 12:21am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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| grimes390 wrote: | | take some time off |
bravo at making your first post a triple post! |
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Posted: Wed, 02 Apr 2008, 7:22am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Location: Huddersfield, England
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The triple poster is right.
I got sick of grinding, so i withdrew my bankroll and forced myself not to play through march.
So here i am, about 25 days later, itching to play again 
Just make sure you use your poker winnings to buy stuff you want and not just to pad your bankroll, i realised that it makes poker a lot more enjoyable when you can see what you are playing for. |
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Posted: Wed, 02 Apr 2008, 10:09am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
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| ChrisTheFish wrote: | The triple poster is right.
I got sick of grinding, so i withdrew my bankroll and forced myself not to play through march.
So here i am, about 25 days later, itching to play again
Just make sure you use your poker winnings to buy stuff you want and not just to pad your bankroll, i realised that it makes poker a lot more enjoyable when you can see what you are playing for. |
dude i bought a house... |
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Posted: Wed, 02 Apr 2008, 10:40am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Location: Huddersfield, England
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | ChrisTheFish wrote: | The triple poster is right.
I got sick of grinding, so i withdrew my bankroll and forced myself not to play through march.
So here i am, about 25 days later, itching to play again
Just make sure you use your poker winnings to buy stuff you want and not just to pad your bankroll, i realised that it makes poker a lot more enjoyable when you can see what you are playing for. |
dude i bought a house... |
OIC |
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Posted: Thu, 03 Apr 2008, 10:13pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | ChrisTheFish wrote: | The triple poster is right.
I got sick of grinding, so i withdrew my bankroll and forced myself not to play through march.
So here i am, about 25 days later, itching to play again
Just make sure you use your poker winnings to buy stuff you want and not just to pad your bankroll, i realised that it makes poker a lot more enjoyable when you can see what you are playing for. |
dude i won two bbj's... wtf is 'padding' bankroll | |
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Posted: Fri, 04 Apr 2008, 9:21am Post subject: |
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High Card
Joined: 04 Apr 2008
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| Ltrain wrote: | Take some time off and after a week or so you will be itching to play again. Because of my job picking up and a new baby, I am also finding less time to play, but thankfully the level of play is the same and like riding a bike, you won't completely forget how to play.
Have you tried a different game for a change (Omaha?) | |
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Posted: Sat, 05 Apr 2008, 10:46pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 25 Jul 2005
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| 'padding a bankroll' is just leaving money in your roll after a big win, or adding to it. |
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Posted: Sun, 06 Apr 2008, 11:22am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 359
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Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
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| I don't think that dropping down to smaller games or adding more tables and playing mindless poker is the answer. |
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