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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 11:36am Post subject: Help FTR - Where do I go from here? |
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Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 320 WPP: 150
Location: UK
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Hi all,
I feel stuck in a rut with poker at the moment and would like some advice.....
My poker career so far.....
- Spent a year donking about with SNG's, reading HOH etc.
- Deposited $30 at Everest and worked this up to $500 playing 10NL 6-Max, although this included a $300 tourney win.
- Took a shot at 25NL and multitabling trying to clear a Bonus (big mistake!) and dropped to $280 before I switched back to 10NL
- I worked this back up to $600 and moved across to Full Tilt, to try their Bonus
- I had another crack 25NL and my bankroll shot up briefly to $700 before falling to below $500
- I switched back to 10NL but still felt stuck (-1.38 PTBB)
- I then recently switched to 10NL FR but this made things worse (-7.66 PTBB)
My sample sizes are pretty small because I don't get to play very often - Full time job with wife and kid! - 11K hands on FT, 12K hands on Everest.
I'd say that multitabling might a problem but I was doing this fine on Everest.
My real frustration stems from the fact that I actually felt I'd improved (done some reading up on FTR and fixed some leaks) - I'll post my PT position stats in a mo.
Basically, I'm after advice about where to go next? Back to the books? SNGs? 6-Max? Drop tables? Quit poker?
I just feel a little lost and any advice from seasoned FTR'ers would be a big help. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 11:39am Post subject: |
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Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 320 WPP: 150
Location: UK
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Everest:
Then later at Full Tilt:
{EDIT: Image URLs corrected. You want to use the "Direct" URL in the future, kevster. - Xianti} |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 11:51am Post subject: |
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Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Posts: 139 WPP: 343
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Seasoned I'm not. My suggestion would be to check the bar on the left - find Poker Videos - watch spendas microstakes series and think about what he does.
Then play one table only with the Hand History for the table open. Every showdown hand take notes on every player based on their pocket cards and how they played them.
Play short sessions only - max 1 hour - one table only. After each session, sit down with your hand history and go through every hand that went to showdown in PokerStove. Generally spend at least as much time studying as playing.
Your focus (and mine) shouldn't be on playing a lot of hands, building a bankroll or defending a bankroll. It should be on learning. Think ranges, post hands and discuss ranges.
At least that's my... 72o? Is that the poker equivalent of 2 cents? |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 12:00pm Post subject: |
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Joined: 05 Feb 2007
Posts: 318 WPP: 102
Location: The future
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| Looks okay. Maybe open raise more. Maybe just a smidge tighter might help too. However, I play FR with around the same VPIP and do fine. Detail would be helpful here I think. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 12:23pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush

Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 7439 WPP: 71
Location: Doncaster, Eng-er-land
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| funnily enough ive written a similar post in the strats forum |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 4:26pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 2830 WPP: 109
Location: searching for something...
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Learn a new kind of poker. You can start at $10 where they're god awful terrible and it doesn't matter that you make a ton of mistakes. You can use what you've learned about poker to push people off hands they don't really want (and even when you make mistakes it doesn't matter because they're so terrible).
Maybe that's just me.
Also, FullTilt has always been significantly more difficult for me. Play softer games. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 5:03pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Posts: 1833 WPP: 65
Location: Spewing
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| Adjust to the players more. I think that's what I've been doing wrong anyway. Self analyse and put your oppenents on a range on every street, if that's to much to do while playing do it afterwards on all your big pots. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 9:10pm Post subject: |
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Joined: 26 Sep 2006
Posts: 354 WPP: 135
Location: nitting some balla sleeves
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| swiggidy wrote: | | Also, FullTilt has always been significantly more difficult for me. Play softer games. |
Thank MFG it's not just me... I do quite nicely at both $10 & $25NL at UB and Absolute. I checked out FT about 6 mos ago 'cause I'm locked outta RB at the UB (but I got free PokerTracker outta the deal..!!! IDIOT!!! ) Spenda suggested I get the f- off of FT. But I'm a thick headed dumb-@ss... and I'm STILL there... My 4.5+PTBB/100 game at UB and AP got me barely at break even at FT WITH RB.
But I ain't leaving, goddamn it... I'm-a break this b!tch if it takes me another 137,000 hands... (okay, that's an exaggeration... I'm only at 92K hands at FT $10NL....) |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 11:29pm Post subject: |
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Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 178 WPP: 87
Location: Not here
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| sarbox68 wrote: | | swiggidy wrote: | | Also, FullTilt has always been significantly more difficult for me. Play softer games. |
Thank MFG it's not just me... I do quite nicely at both $10 & $25NL at UB and Absolute. I checked out FT about 6 mos ago 'cause I'm locked outta RB at the UB (but I got free PokerTracker outta the deal..!!! IDIOT!!! ) Spenda suggested I get the f- off of FT. But I'm a thick headed dumb-@ss... and I'm STILL there... My 4.5+PTBB/100 game at UB and AP got me barely at break even at FT WITH RB.
But I ain't leaving, goddamn it... I'm-a break this b!tch if it takes me another 137,000 hands... (okay, that's an exaggeration... I'm only at 92K hands at FT $10NL....) |
92k hands at 10nl O_O |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 1:05am Post subject: |
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Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 320 WPP: 150
Location: UK
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | funnily enough ive written a similar post in the strats forum |
You but you've got the skill to take down BBJ's and they keep you warm at night  |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 1:08am Post subject: |
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Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 320 WPP: 150
Location: UK
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Ok, if nothing else, this thread has raised my spirits a little in that other people seem to be in the same boat.
I'm still not sure whether to stick with FR or go back to 6-max though. I guess I'll quit FT though once the Bonus period finishes. |
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