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Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 8:51am Post subject: Turned full house 25NL
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Full House
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 1101
WPP: 62
Location: Cheshire, UK
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If you are villain and I'm running as above - wha do you call with here? Whats the lowest Qx you call with excluding fullhouses. Do you ever call with a flush draw?
$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Profiles and Stacks:
 UTG ($32.45) 15.8/15.8/3.0 (38)
UTG+1 ($24.65) 50.0/17.5/2.0 (40)
Hero ($25.00) 12.2/9.8/6.0 (41)
BTN ($25.70) 14.6/9.8/0.8 (41)
SB ($13.35) 14.3/7.1/0.0 (14)
BB ($29.85) 48.8/12.2/6.0 (41)
Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO  
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75
Flop:    ($2.1, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn:  ($2.1, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $6, Hero goes all-in $24, BB calls $18
River:  ($50.1, 2 players)
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Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 9:13am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 2838
WPP: 106
Location: #flopturnriver
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| This is fine. The guy is stacking off with any queen, and on the turn there are (for example) 8 possible combinations of KQ and only 3 combinations of 77. Though Q7 is the only other hand that beats you, it's also fairly unlikely, both by statistics (there are 6 combinations of it) and by the fact that it's Q7. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 9:17am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 1101
WPP: 62
Location: Cheshire, UK
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| spoonitnow wrote: | | This is fine. The guy is stacking off with any queen, and on the turn there are (for example) 8 possible combinations of KQ and only 3 combinations of 77. Though Q7 is the only other hand that beats you, it's also fairly unlikely, both by statistics (there are 6 combinations of it) and by the fact that it's Q7. |
Read the question.
I'm asking if you are villain what Qx you call with. Are you advocating he even calls with Q2? Equally do you ever call with a flush draw?
I'm not bothered if he has Qx for fullhouse or 77 as its +EV to get it in here. I'm obvioulsy trying to get it all in on the turn 100%... |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 10:14am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 770
WPP: 109
Location: Watching spoon stroke his own ego
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I probably muck QJ here and calling on a naked flush draw is just horribly bad.
Also, judging by th check - check/raise line, I'm inclined to think he actually had a flush draw... was he really this bad? |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 10:21am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Posts: 2442
WPP: 66
Location: Spewing
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Bet flop.
It's kind of irrelevant what I'd call with because your pushing range would be thinner vs. me than vs. this station. I'd def muck QJ and naked FD. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 10:23am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 1101
WPP: 62
Location: Cheshire, UK
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| dev wrote: | I probably muck QJ here and calling on a naked flush draw is just horribly bad.
Also, judging by th check - check/raise line, I'm inclined to think he actually had a flush draw... was he really this bad? |
Yeah it's total spew, but I see it often lol. I tanked the turn coz I was unsure whether I could just raise this or push. Stack was too small to raise so just pushed it. He had Q6, ppl are so bad it's untrue.
QJ would be a tough fold, though we dont really beat anything in a raised pot do we. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 11:20am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 294
WPP: 76
Location: Not here
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| Meh, I'd fold QJ and seriously consider dumping KQ. I fold the FD |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 3:29am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 2046
WPP: 70
Location: the ether
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if I got a queen I'm betting flop.
Call QK, fold QJ. Definitely fold the draw. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 9:02pm Post subject:
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