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Posted: Fri, 28 Mar 2008, 3:21pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Posts: 801
WPP: 118
Location: Hartford, CT
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| does leggo do vids for Microstakes? |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 1:51am Post subject: Full Tilt and Cardrunners |
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Straight
Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 154
WPP: 100
Location: not playing much
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| What do you guys think of the Full Tilt/Cardrunners sponsorship? To be honest, I wasn't glad to hear it. The more mainstream cardrunners gets, the less valuable the content will be, I think. Also, they're supposed to have "video tables" on Full Tilt. How valuable is a video where everyone knows they're being filmed? Meh. Any suggestions for other sites? Maybe I'll stick to FTR vids. |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 2:06am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 963
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Location: bluffing scare cards
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I recently got leggo and I'm really happy with it. I think they are uploading around 5 vids/week with all the top guys doing like 2 a month. High quality vids not just educational but entertaining as well. I would highly recommend it and if you do sign up how bout using my sn (meeloche) as your referal?  |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 7:58am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
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This thread is weird. Title says "Full Tilt and Cardrunners" and the OP is question about Leggo Poker, then the first reply is legitimate Full Tilt/Cardrunners sponsorship question ... looks like two different threads merged somehow.
Anyways I'll stick to the title:
| donnybaker wrote: | | What do you guys think of the Full Tilt/Cardrunners sponsorship? To be honest, I wasn't glad to hear it. The more mainstream cardrunners gets, the less valuable the content will be, I think. Also, they're supposed to have "video tables" on Full Tilt. How valuable is a video where everyone knows they're being filmed? Meh. Any suggestions for other sites? Maybe I'll stick to FTR vids. |
There has been a lot of debating about this deal and in general players had very negative feelings (and rightfully so) about CR Pro's new power to change their screen names and play undercover. After hell raised FTPDoug (FTP representative) filled in the details:
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The next big software update (still over a month away) will include a backend feature that allows us to create "Educational" ("EDU") tables. When a player sits down at the table, they will see a popup explaining that at any time they could be playing against an instructor and might be recorded for the purposes of educational videos. They will need to accept these terms before sitting and playing. These tables will be marked in the lobby with the "EDU" tag in the table name.
Instructors (with the express consent of Full Tilt) will be able to request a screen name and red status change for the duration of a video. This change of status and "temporary screen name" will only last for the duration of their educational session, and immediately after the session the instructor's account will be changed back to the "true" screen name and status. The modification of account name and status can only be done by our security department, and instructor play will be carefully monitored during the session.
When using a name other than their normal "red" name, they will only be allowed to play at these new Educational tables.
All players at the Educational tables who participate in a session with the instructor (whether or not the video is eventually used) will receive a Bonus. The Bonus will scale based on the stakes they are playing, and be offered to any player who plays at least one hand during the session. The amounts are still being finalized, and will be detailed from the popup in the screen when a player sits down. Examples might look something like a $50 Bonus at $1/$2 and a $250 Bonus at $5/$10. This will be the only form of compensation given to players at these tables.
There will not be Educational tables at limits higher than $5/$10 NL.
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As for your question - yes, I believe this will seriously deteriorate CR's vid quality. Every decent player will table select and avoid playing against Green Plastic or Cole South. The only players sitting there will be uninformed fish with occasional joker wanting to ruin the video. And I don't really want to learn how to beat fish (know that already myself) - I want to learn how to beat regs which would obviously not sit at marked tables.
However there's one good thing about these 'EDU' tables ... reread the ^^^^ quote: "Bonus will scale based on the stakes they are playing, and be offered to any player who plays at least one hand during the session". So it's: sit with CR Pro, fold pf - fold pf - fold pf ..., get a Bonus  |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 10:02am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 963
WPP: 65
Location: bluffing scare cards
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| mrhappy333 wrote: | | does leggo do vids for Microstakes? |
They lowest stakes vid they do is 100nl. |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 3:47pm Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 154
WPP: 100
Location: not playing much
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| Sheetah wrote: | This thread is weird. Title says "Full Tilt and Cardrunners" and the OP is question about Leggo Poker, then the first reply is legitimate Full Tilt/Cardrunners sponsorship question ... looks like two different threads merged somehow.
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it was the time thing last night that messed up the order (some kind of server prob?). the second post is the OP. Thanks for the info, though. I still get a lot from the CR vids especially for the low stakes but I doubt I'll keep the subscription forever.
A little off topic, I don't like how they're standardizing their vids - powerpoint intro then PT session review (though I do like this part). I'd rather see very good playings just playing their game (as much as possible) rather than "making a Cardrunners video" if that makes any sense.
| meeloche wrote: | | I recently got leggo and I'm really happy with it. I think they are uploading around 5 vids/week with all the top guys doing like 2 a month. High quality vids not just educational but entertaining as well. I would highly recommend it and if you do sign up how bout using my sn (meeloche) as your referal? |
I'll check them out, did I see somewhere that gabe was thinking of doing a vid there? |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 4:49pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Posts: 264
WPP: 95
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| donnybaker wrote: | | ... did I see somewhere that gabe was thinking of doing a vid there? |
I'm pretty sure Gabe said in some thread that his guest pro video is coming soon |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 4:59pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Posts: 801
WPP: 118
Location: Hartford, CT
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| but then he said no cause people would see how he played. and wasnt going to be compensated? |
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