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griffey24
Post Posted: Thu, 13 Mar 2008, 4:44pm    Post subject: 2/5 -deep with FD + insider... Reply with quote
4-of-a-Kind
4-of-a-Kind

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Posts: 1607
WPP: 100
Location: Toronto'ish
-I'm never sure how to play strong draws like this, I don't think this is the best line so I'd like to hear better lines
-UTG is Alexos from FTR, and I'm not really sure what his flatting range is in this spot. Probably some overpair and I don't think he gives my leads that much credit cause I've been leading into him quite a few times the last few sessions
-CO is another reg who runs about 18/15/3.39. I don't have that much exerience wiht him, or at least we haven't had that many memorable significant encounters yet. Alexos doesn't think he's that good, but I don't have many reads on him

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $560
UTG+1: $484.50
CO: $1039.50
Button: $508.75
Hero: $1808.88
BB: $415

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Two of Hearts Four of Hearts
UTG raises to $15, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: Three of Hearts Six of Hearts Seven of Spades ($65, 4 players)
Hero bets $40, UTG calls, CO raises to $165, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG raises all-in $545, CO raises all-in $1024.5, Hero folds
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nutsinho
Post Posted: Thu, 13 Mar 2008, 4:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
probably fold preflop, dont lead a 4 way pot with a nice draw that you cant stack off with. leading into the pfr is a good play in HU pots on these type of boards with most of your range, but in 4way pots you should usually only lead out planning to stack off or as a stab with a weakish made hand
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griffey24
Post Posted: Sat, 15 Mar 2008, 2:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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nutsinho wrote:
probably fold preflop, dont lead a 4 way pot with a nice draw that you cant stack off with. leading into the pfr is a good play in HU pots on these type of boards with most of your range, but in 4way pots you should usually only lead out planning to stack off or as a stab with a weakish made hand


Yah I agree. I've lead out with strong straight+ low FD hands lately, only to meet a lot lot of aggression. I usually end up folding these hands with fear I'm up against a higher FD and so only my straight outs are good.

I guess its pretty close either way, cause if my flush outs are counterfeited its a good chance I still have outs to a pair or something.
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Sat, 15 Mar 2008, 3:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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I probably call here but i as well fold pre.

I think your line is fine.
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The Odds God
Post Posted: Sun, 16 Mar 2008, 4:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I like your line. I was thinking about pushing for a big overraise when CO raises, but it is probably better the way you played it because of ranges and stuff.
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Marshall28
Post Posted: Sun, 16 Mar 2008, 4:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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if you're leading a lot w/ draws and weaker hands at him, mix it up, go for a checkraise. w/ a hand this strong though, kinda hard not to want to play it straight up for value, i definitely dont fault it. w/ 2 players all in it gets juicy but since its too likely one of them is holding a bigger FD probly means trouble for u.

on 2nd thought, i hate playing a hand like this so passively just flatting the raise after u expect it. if u expected it, it's probably weak. i really think w/ a hand this strong u need to be pushing it unless u r mixing it up if u have the image to b/3b draws constantly.
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