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Blah I really really suck at cash games. I think I'm just going to study for like a week or whatever before even stepping foot at the tables again. It's ridiculous.

hand 1: calling the turn is best by far. We have a shitty image, TP, FD and are in position. Call turn and let villain bluff into you again on the river.

hand 2: I would usually just check behind turn here but i dont hate 3 barrelling. Villain definitly has 8x or a FD and FD seems more likely. If he is a showdown muppet then im not continuing without improving after the flop.

Thank you very much bode. Villain folds in both hands.

I thought I'd give my thoughts on why I think I am sucking. This probably won't be well written in anyway but I'll just write what is on my mind.

So yeah I think I do horrible in my medium pots, the pots where basically I cbet, get called and I have nothing or medium pair or something less than TPTK. I cbet basically air, made hands TP+/monsters or huge draws. Once I get called I feel as if I have to shutdown if I cbet air because I have nothing and they usually don't fold and will take their horrible hands to showdown. I feel like some definitely float me by calling my cbets and then betting like 1/5 pot or something really small and I fold with air and call down with like mid pair or something that loses a lot. I also feel lost when I get like minraised and I hold either TPGK or an overpair and whenever I continue with it I am sure enough beat. I played a maniac today who showed every hand even if it did not go to showdown and raised every hand preflop, called any raise preflop blah blah blah and I would basically have to keep folding when I didn't hit top pair because the one time I did hit second pair he just kept betting like he always does and I lose. I tried to isolate him when I had something good preflop but I miss and he takes down the pot. Maybe I don't go to showdown enough but it seems as if everytime I do I just lose to this type of player. The looser games seem like a great place to play but once you try to play more hands by raising their limps and stuff it's just remarkable how little cbetting works. And of course if I'm OOP and check they just bet at the flop. I'm usually in position but there are definitely times I feel a raise is permitted OOP when I hold like AK but then the board sucks. I have been told to just look at a bunch of hands in PT from the past but I feel as if my ranges are always flawed. I perform well in tournaments though because it seems as if no one really floats and it's that easy but I can't really stand the long hours of playing and then getting sucked out for you to lose on the bubble and stuff like that. SnGs are such a big part of my profits and that needs to change. I want to get better at cash. Any advice or whatever would be great.

Ok last rant is what it is.

Now, thanks to Sauce specifically, I learned an insane poker concept that is basically unheard of. That's a huge lie and I am completely embarrassed to write this but it really made me think differently in that our opponents aren't always the same. That last statement is it and is completely standard even I would have said "well obviously" but I never took the time to really think about this. Some take different lines in certain situations (obv) with similar stats as others. The way I use, and probably the only way, is to look at their past showdown hands. I can kind of get an idea on what they call, raise, minraise, etc. with and can exploit it. From my few hands at 25nl and 50nl and using this technique, I can see that most take the same lines in the same situations instead of balancing. From my few hands at those levels, I am up a lot, with 6 less tables than normal. I am definitely just beginning to think on these terms and will pick up more things when looking at lines but so far I can kind of get an idea on how they view poker. As in, for example, if they think 2nd pair top kicker is a good hand to c/c OOP 2/3 flop bet, 1/2 turn bet, and 1/2 river bet, etc.

One thing I have picked up on (well maybe two but mainly one), is how great being IP really is when you can see their line first...again really obvious. Now, this is great because you can raise more pre against certain players you know a lot about and esp. do so in position. So those are the two things, using position and isolating more vs. players you can easily exploit but you mainly want to be in position unless you have huge reads when he's IP.

So nothing new, but after reading some of griffey's post I think it will be good to write down notes after learning ideas from sessions/thinking.

I wasn't gonna post outside the commune for a long time, keeping 1234 posts on FTR

anyway, here goes

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

haven't really played much since finishing in the top 3 of 2 180 man SnGs. Been thinking about poker a lot though. Really thinking differently in some cases, allowing me to play more hands pre as well as taking more hands further post. This is such a small sample size but I have felt pretty good so far with my recent success as I know I am playing differently from my old style.

i hope to laugh at this graph someday

damn man, play mooooooooooore...especially when you're playing good/feeling good

nice results, i hope that was today only and not the entire week:P

Scoped you the other day, I take it that huge spike is from the two 180s you FT'd in? Nice stuff Smile

.

Got a question, you've seen my game and enough posts to know how I play. What advice would you have for adjustments when I play MTTs?

180 tournies are so insane, AA<QJ pre (yay image or maybe they just suck so much). Then I got called with another image call in imo, KT<A9. 89>77 though obv. I was unfortunately short a lot today. Not really getting huge hands, and when I do I get beat, yay. Umm so yeah cash has been good. I really think I am learning the game of poker. Watched a friend play 50NL and pretty much told him what I would have done each hand and it seemed to work. He obv. mainly played his style (very aggro, 4bet min raising 78 pre in a blind war at this level, etc.)

Tried HU for a little vs a real short stack, ran hot pre. QQ and then KK in consecutive hands...and allin pre!! yes!!!!!:

PokerStars GAME #14812650830: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/01/25 - 12:57:37 (ET)
Table 'Ilioneus III' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($46.40 in chips)
Seat 2: mikkel93 ($7.95 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.25
mikkel93: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Qc Qd]
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.50
mikkel93: raises $6.45 to $7.95 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $6.45
*** FLOP *** [5c Kd 6d]
*** TURN *** [5c Kd 6d] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [5c Kd 6d 9d] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mikkel93: shows [4d Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
toddanderson: shows [Qc Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
mikkel93 collected $15.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.90 | Rake $0.50
Board [5c Kd 6d 9d Qh]
Seat 1: toddanderson (button) (small blind) showed [Qc Qd] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 2: mikkel93 (big blind) showed [4d Ad] and won ($15.40) with a flush, Ace high

PokerStars GAME #14812656750: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/01/25 - 12:57:57 (ET)
Table 'Ilioneus III' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($38.45 in chips)
Seat 2: mikkel93 ($15.40 in chips)
mikkel93: posts small blind $0.25
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ks Kd]
mikkel93: raises $0.50 to $1
toddanderson: raises $2 to $3
mikkel93: raises $12.40 to $15.40 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $12.40
*** FLOP *** [Js Qs 6s]
*** TURN *** [Js Qs 6s] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [Js Qs 6s Ad] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Ks Kd] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
mikkel93: shows [Qc Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Queens)
mikkel93 collected $30.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $30.80 | Rake $0.50
Board [Js Qs 6s Ad Ac]
Seat 1: toddanderson (big blind) showed [Ks Kd] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 2: mikkel93 (button) (small blind) showed [Qc Ah] and won ($30.30) with a full house, Aces full of Queens

But regardless of that, I got QQ again and AA to get back my stack, as well as the rest of his.

heater, wish me luck (more so wish me luck it's me actually getting better)

i hope i didn't jinx it. anyways, been really really busy lately with school and stuff but the poker i have been able to get in has treated me well.

Nice stuff! No doubt you're running hot because of skill!

haha thanks dude! i'll catch up with you hopefully soon on msn

BR now at $1526. Praying that I never have to move down to 25nl or below again.

fuck just got coolered (imo) in a quick session before classes for 1.5 buyins. It's amazing who plays earlier in the morning, they all are horrible. I get like 4 callers pre whenever I raise but of course AQ<AT with an ace on flop and then QQ<AA vs. an 80/0. I can't always assume a limp/RR from an 80/0 is AA right? I just called pre and stacked off on a stupid flop of JT4. I just felt he was so bad he could have some weird shit. Oh well. I think I may play a bunch of 4.40s again. Tried 3-betting like mad-man last night with success...but only vs. the right, thinking opponents. They seem to fold a lot pre or fold way too much post.

I can't always assume a limp/RR from an 80/0 is AA right?

If those stats are reliable and a big enough sample size then I dunno, you sort of can. Especially if he goes mental post-flop. Hardly a massive leak though.

Bah I don't care what that shows I can't win with kings or anything else. I'm going to pull the 70% variance 30% playing poorly card out. I will admit I got "fancy" and used my image and they just showed up with the nuts. I maaaay make note that most 50NL/25NLers don't adjust as often as I think. But I know some still do, just a matter of finding out who. I definitely need to wait for showdowned hands though before making assumptions. Here are some hands for you ballas:

1. villain is really loose on the button. Yes, no?

PokerStars GAME #15260118211: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/13 - 13:15:18 (ET)
Table 'Arthur III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Swim ($25.60 in chips)
Seat 2: ajfonso ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: TiltGuru ($53.75 in chips)
Seat 4: ImQuiteDonk ($31.15 in chips)
Seat 5: toddanderson ($35.10 in chips)
Seat 6: abgDE ($18.05 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.10
abgDE: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Kc Kh]
Swim: folds
ajfonso: folds
TiltGuru: folds
ImQuiteDonk: raises $0.50 to $0.75
toddanderson: raises $2 to $2.75
abgDE: folds
ImQuiteDonk: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [6h 8h 7h]
toddanderson: bets $4
ImQuiteDonk: raises $8.50 to $12.50
toddanderson: raises $19.85 to $32.35 and is all-in
ImQuiteDonk: calls $15.90 and is all-in

2. PokerStars GAME #15200529847: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/10 - 19:00:37 (ET)
Table 'Echion IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: hedicht ($53.05 in chips)
Seat 2: FuFuinger ($12 in chips)
Seat 3: fdresn ($27.15 in chips)
Seat 4: MedcoMan ($51.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Profigambler ($27.75 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($50 in chips)
Profigambler: posts small blind $0.25
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Kc Ks]
hedicht: raises $1 to $1.50
FuFuinger: calls $1.50
fdresn: folds
MedcoMan: folds
Profigambler: folds
toddanderson: raises $4.50 to $6
hedicht: calls $4.50
FuFuinger: calls $4.50
*** FLOP *** [7s 5c Qs]
toddanderson: bets $7.50
hedicht: calls $7.50
FuFuinger: folds
*** TURN *** [7s 5c Qs] [4c]
toddanderson: bets $22

3.PokerStars GAME #15213464375: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/11 - 13:10:14 (ET)
Table 'Campanula II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: foldu ($16.70 in chips)
Seat 2: kingmmm ($9.50 in chips)
Seat 4: aloux777 ($17.20 in chips)
Seat 5: toddanderson ($54.45 in chips)
Seat 6: cardhobo ($25.75 in chips)
foldu: posts small blind $0.10
kingmmm: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Jh Ah]
aloux777: calls $0.25
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
cardhobo: folds
foldu: folds
kingmmm: folds
aloux777: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [7d 6s 7s]
aloux777: checks
toddanderson: bets $2
aloux777: calls $2
*** TURN *** [7d 6s 7s] [Jd]
aloux777: checks
toddanderson: bets $3.50
fr4nk123456 joins the table at seat #3
aloux777: raises $5.50 to $9
toddanderson: raises $14.75 to $23.75

4.PokerStars GAME #15213391802: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/11 - 13:07:18 (ET)
Table 'Thora III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: monyetteket ($74.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Fugazy85 ($16.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Weyhon ($31.95 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($25.70 in chips)
Weyhon: posts small blind $0.10
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Js Jc]
monyetteket: raises $0.75 to $1
Fugazy85: calls $1
Weyhon: folds
toddanderson: raises $4.50 to $5.50
monyetteket: folds
Fugazy85: calls $4.50
*** FLOP *** [Ah 6d 7s]
toddanderson:

5."image" play, would cbet otherwise for sure:
PokerStars GAME #15198670450: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/10 - 16:12:58 (ET)
Table 'Acamar IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: beanaldo ($12.15 in chips)
Seat 2: Duder83 ($32.05 in chips)
Seat 3: Daci ($96.20 in chips)
Seat 4: MONSTERKOEK ($67.60 in chips)
Seat 5: toddanderson ($54.90 in chips)
Seat 6: black666 ($54.50 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.25
black666: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [As Js]
beanaldo: folds
Duder83: raises $0.50 to $1
Daci: folds
MONSTERKOEK: folds
toddanderson: raises $3 to $4
black666: folds
Duder83: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Ac Th 2s]
toddanderson: checks
Duder83: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac Th 2s] [Ad]
toddanderson: bets $5
Duder83: raises $23.05 to $28.05 and is all-in
toddanderson:

6.villain is a 20/16/3:
PokerStars GAME #15199387542: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/10 - 17:17:48 (ET)
Table 'Acamar IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: PokerUwe_de ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: Duder83 ($129.05 in chips)
Seat 3: JdangerJ ($18.25 in chips)
Seat 4: MONSTERKOEK ($84.85 in chips)
Seat 5: toddanderson ($47.50 in chips)
Seat 6: black666 ($57.20 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.25
black666: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Td Kc]
PokerUwe_de: folds
Duder83: folds
JdangerJ: folds
MONSTERKOEK: folds
toddanderson: raises $1.50 to $2
black666: raises $4 to $6
toddanderson: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [2h 5c Ad]
toddanderson: checks
black666: checks
*** TURN *** [2h 5c Ad] [2d]
toddanderson: bets $8
black666: calls $8
*** RIVER *** [2h 5c Ad 2d] [5h]
toddanderson: bets $17.50

Also, just so everyone knows, and I hate to disappoint anyone, but Bigred does actually play poker. Insane.

Stop tilting and play good poker!

i played some hands like shit but the majority are huge coolers/bad boards. getting pretty irritated

btw i am really stubborn which is a horrible trait for this game but for fuck's sake i don't want to be at these stakes anymore

PokerStars GAME #15331091551: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/16 - 17:25:45 (ET)
Table 'Aksnes' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: cuesoffury ($5.05 in chips)
Seat 2: toddanderson ($26 in chips)
Seat 3: JCAP04 ($15.90 in chips)
Seat 4: LOSEY 1 ($7.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Berg1980 ($25.40 in chips)
Seat 6: retsok12 ($24.40 in chips)
Berg1980: posts small blind $0.10
retsok12: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [8s 8h]
cuesoffury: calls $0.25
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
JCAP04: folds
LOSEY 1: folds
Berg1980: calls $1.15
retsok12: folds
cuesoffury: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d 8d Ad]
Berg1980: checks
toddanderson: bets $2.50
Berg1980: raises $2.50 to $5
toddanderson: calls $2.50
*** TURN *** [5d 8d Ad] [6d]
Berg1980: bets $19.15 and is all-in
toddanderson: folds

someone comment no real reads

I would have gotten it all in on the flop. Even if they have the flush you have outs to fill up. If they chase the draw you're making it a mistake for them to do so.

3bet flop all day

yeah can't believe I actually folded that. Anyways, here is a hand vs. an aggro idiot:

PokerStars GAME #15353696013: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/02/17 - 15:46:54 (ET)
Table 'Gratia IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: cwayslim ($24.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Leffegnu ($29.55 in chips)
Seat 3: jeanman1 ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: Amazonik ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: r wulf ($11.70 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($37.60 in chips)
Leffegnu: posts small blind $0.10
jeanman1: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ad Jd]
r wulf said, "thout so nh"
Amazonik: folds
r wulf: calls $0.25
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
cwayslim: folds
Leffegnu: calls $1.15
jeanman1: folds
r wulf: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [2c 8d 4d]
Amazonik said, "you call with 6 5 ? wtf !"
Leffegnu: checks
r wulf: bets $1
toddanderson: raises $2.50 to $3.50
Leffegnu: fol

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