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rvrking22
Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 9:50am    Post subject: Building Bankroll from $25... Reply with quote
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Hi everyone, this is my first post on FTR. Just a little bit about myself before i get into the topic. I mostly play 10nl and 2.25-5.50 SnG. I play at FTP and cake,my nic is prefontaine10 on FTP and rvrking22 on cake. Been playing for about 3 months and i think im starting to grasp the game. Some of my poker goals include building my $25 roll to $1k. And further developing as a poker player. Ok, so on with the tread. My current BR is $25. I know im pretty restricted as to what i can play in terms of BR management. So I was wondering what types of games I can play to start building my BR back up? Im was thinking the 1.25 SnG, but im not sure..

Any replies, thank you in advance
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Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 10:14am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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stars has a lot of $1 sngs, everything from hu to 45-player
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Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 10:29am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Deposit $75 more and play 2NL IMO
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Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 12:11pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'd suggest you pick a type of game and stick with it.

You have to have a really significant edge to beat 1+.25 sngs, because the fee is such a big percentage of the buyin. If you do those, try to stick with those. Keep track of your results, post in the 2 street bingo, I mean SNG forum.

Cash games are probably not the best place to start, but when you're starting out you really should stick to one form of the game. With $25 you should probably be buying in short on the $2 games. You really should add at least another $35 to your account if you want to try this.

The MTT option is open, the good thing about that is that you can play freerolls and there are a lot of short buyin/0 fee tourneys on some of the major sites. The bad thing is that you can't always decide when you can play.

I'd suggest a mix of freerolls and small buyin SNGs.

Get Poker Tracker if you can. Keep track of all of your wins and losses. If you play tourneys or SNGs make a spreadsheet to keep track of how you do.
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rvrking22
Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 1:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think thats what im going to try and do. Stick to the $1 SnG until I have about $50-60...then take a shot at the $2 SnG. I would like to get more involved with the MTT area...however I dont know if I have the skills required to beat them. I've heard the HOH volumes are great reads...but some of the info might be over my head considering I have only played 3-4 small buyin/freerolls. Any idea on strategy/guides for beginners? Websites? Forums?
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Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 2:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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dev wrote:

Cash games are probably not the best place to start


Strongly disagree - ever heard of the term tourney donk?
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Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 2:19pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think he means because he's at Full Tilt and has a $25 BR. At least I hope that's what he means.
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Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 2:50pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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rvrking22 wrote:
Any idea on strategy/guides for beginners? Websites? Forums?


Try our strategy and guides for beginners under the beginners guide. Also, this is a really good website and forum. I don't know any other place online where you can find a community this helpful and focused on what they do. The admins and the experts work hard to keep it that way. Watch the videos, and read the articles. The book reviews will help you with what books are good for what level of play. Post hands and get some constructive criticism. Study, practice, play. You'll start winning before you know it.
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Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 2:52pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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dev wrote:
You have to have a really significant edge to beat 1+.25 sngs, because the fee is such a big percentage of the buyin.
1) breathing, check
2) found ftr, check

sounds like your edge is big enough to show a solid profit at $1+.25 anything
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Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 2:58pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Play 2.20's. If you lose your money load another $25. If you can't afford to spend another $25 on poker, use the money on groceries.
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Post Posted: Sun, 09 Mar 2008, 3:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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rvrking22 wrote:
I think thats what im going to try and do. Stick to the $1 SnG until I have about $50-60...then take a shot at the $2 SnG. I would like to get more involved with the MTT area...however I dont know if I have the skills required to beat them. I've heard the HOH volumes are great reads...but some of the info might be over my head considering I have only played 3-4 small buyin/freerolls. Any idea on strategy/guides for beginners? Websites? Forums?


You're on the right track. Keep playing freerolls while you're at it.
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Post Posted: Tue, 11 Mar 2008, 5:53am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm doing the same thing: I started with $4 and bought in for $1 at the .01/.02 tables. I did that until I made it to $30. Now I've just started buying in for $2 at those same tables and I'm up to $38. On PS, you can buy-in for up to $5 on the .01/.02 tables, so once I get to $60, I'll increase my buy-in to $3 at the .01/.02 tables and take shots at the .02/.05 tables when during peak times when the tables are fishier.

Last year I ran $50 to $1600 then got burnt out and cashed out, bought a computer and started playing computer games instead of poker. Now I have the itch again and a small bankroll. I'm just doing this for fun, so I don't need to be making oodles of money right away.
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Post Posted: Tue, 11 Mar 2008, 8:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If you are comfortable with the $1 SNG's on FTP, go for it, I suggest early morning on Saturday/Sunday, seems to be more donkish, thought sometimes I qualify that way as well. But they seem to be fairly easy to beat if you are patient and disciplined.
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Post Posted: Tue, 11 Mar 2008, 9:02am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Khabbi wrote:
I'm doing the same thing: I started with $4 and bought in for $1 at the .01/.02 tables. I did that until I made it to $30. Now I've just started buying in for $2 at those same tables and I'm up to $38. On PS, you can buy-in for up to $5 on the .01/.02 tables, so once I get to $60, I'll increase my buy-in to $3 at the .01/.02 tables and take shots at the .02/.05 tables when during peak times when the tables are fishier.

Last year I ran $50 to $1600 then got burnt out and cashed out, bought a computer and started playing computer games instead of poker. Now I have the itch again and a small bankroll. I'm just doing this for fun, so I don't need to be making oodles of money right away.


This looks perfect to me.
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Post Posted: Tue, 11 Mar 2008, 10:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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play the normal speed $1.25 9-man SnGs to start... read everything here:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/sng-tactics-digest-the-best-sng-forum-posts-are-in-here-t36043.html

Make big raises with QQ+, and AK, limp some pp's but only in late position or in the blinds, until you have an M of 3-4.. then steal like a monkey.
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rvrking22
Post Posted: Tue, 11 Mar 2008, 3:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Thanks guys for all the help!
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Post Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 1:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This seems like a good strategy. For me, the $.10 and .25 cent MTT tables seem to do it for me. It's not much of a profit, but if you win just 1 hand and double up, you always win some type of cash.

Very Happy
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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 8:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'd suggest a mix of freerolls and small buyin SNGs.

Get Poker Tracker if you can. Keep track of all of your wins and losses. If you play tourneys or SNGs make a spreadsheet to keep track of how you do.[/quote]

I would say that i am in in simular position to you in that i am trying to improve my game/build on my bankroll and this is pritty much what i do. I started a thread on peoples opinions of freerolls not too long ago and it was suggested by quite a few members that freerolls are good for building a bankroll.
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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 4:06pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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stay away from free rolls. You're better off working one extra hour a week (or buying one less beer, or skipping a bag of chips or something) and investing the $5-10 or whatever you make after taxes into your poker fund. I would be surprised if the expected $/hr was over 0.01.

I would have to think < $1 MTTs are about the same way.

I deposited $25 on stars and played the $1-45man. By the final table people are WTF bad.
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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 4:11pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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.01/.02 on stars is unraked

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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 4:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnord wrote:
.01/.02 on stars is unraked

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This is untrue -- it's raked but just very lightly. It's only raked when the pot gets to $1.
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Fnord
Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 4:45pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Vastly better than the $1 SnG highway robbery.
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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 5:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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On the other hand, you wont clear your deposit Bonus playing 2NL on stars.

I built from $50 to $1k playing sngs, took a few months, but then I started from total scratch skill wise and played played relatively casually.

At this point, its probably about which style you have an edge in. If you've been playing for a few months, you should know which style you can beat the most.

[edit] Hmm, actually I'm not sure if the $1.25s generate FPPs either. I think its 5 per $1 rake, or 3 for the $5.50s 50c rake, but not sure you get anything for the $1.20...
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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 7:50pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnord wrote:
Vastly better than the $1 SnG highway robbery.

Obv.

bjsaust wrote:
On the other hand, you wont clear your deposit Bonus playing 2NL on stars.

I built from $50 to $1k playing sngs, took a few months, but then I started from total scratch skill wise and played played relatively casually.

At this point, its probably about which style you have an edge in. If you've been playing for a few months, you should know which style you can beat the most.

[edit] Hmm, actually I'm not sure if the $1.25s generate FPPs either. I think its 5 per $1 rake, or 3 for the $5.50s 50c rake, but not sure you get anything for the $1.20...


All tournaments with a rake give FPPs.
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Post Posted: Sat, 05 Apr 2008, 2:29pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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can you save some money and put more than 25 bucks? i doubt you are going to "build" your bankroll
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