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Posted: Wed, 13 Feb 2008, 10:16am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 06 Jun 2005
Posts: 1061
WPP: 139
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| what site(s) are you at? Also, what have you noticed in terms of differences between the levels? I figure you will be the best to ask since you have just moved up after a pretty good stint at 100NL. |
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Posted: Wed, 13 Feb 2008, 6:17pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1168
WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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1.2k hands at 200NL for a net profit of $260 yay yay
BR $7672
Tonights session went like ok. To be honest, I didnīt play all that much thinking poker, but it wasnīt necessary anyway. Found a 50/5 type of guy at most tables and spend the most time testing the waters against dudes who seemed to be regular players. Iīve played one hand horribly, talking myself into this stupid play test him. Shame on me.
#1
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($40.00)
UTG+1 ($253.80)
UTG+2 ($57.00)
MP1 ($351.21)
MP2 ($39.00)
MP3 ($44.25)
CO ($82.50)
Hero ($254.50)
SB ($222.25)
BB ($192.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is BTN  
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 5 folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG+1 raises to $30, Hero calls $20
Flop:    ($63, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $38, Hero raises to $95, UTG+1 goes all-in $185.8, Hero folds
Final Pot: $378.80
UTG+1 wins $378.8 ( won +$125 )
Hero lost -$125.00
#2 Crazy shiat at 1/2. Pretty standard I guess?
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($188.77)
UTG+1 ($44.69)
UTG+2 ($203.10)
MP1 ($591.00)
Hero ($200.00)
MP3 ($197.82)
CO ($197.00)
BTN ($213.53)
SB ($41.35)
BB ($139.09)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is MP2  
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $22, 2 folds, BTN calls $22, 1 fold, BB calls $20, UTG+1 goes all-in $38.69, Hero goes all-in $178, BTN calls $178, BB goes all-in $117.09
Flop:    ($584.78, 4 players)
Turn:  ($584.78, 4 players)
River:  ($584.78, 4 players)
Final Pot: $581.78
BB shows:  
UTG+1 shows:  
Hero shows:
BTN shows:  
BTN wins $581.78 ( won +$381.78 )
BB lost -$139.09
UTG+1 lost -$44.69
Hero lost -$200.00
#3 Villian ran 60/7/0.8, we sat both 300BB deep at the table when I left. No more poker when Iīm tired regardless of how good the tables are 
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($188.77)
UTG+1 ($44.69)
UTG+2 ($203.10)
MP1 ($591.00)
Hero ($200.00)
MP3 ($197.82)
CO ($197.00)
BTN ($213.53)
SB ($41.35)
BB ($139.09)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is MP2
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $22, 2 folds, BTN calls $22, 1 fold, BB calls $20, UTG+1 goes all-in $38.69, Hero goes all-in $178, BTN calls $178, BB goes all-in $117.09
Flop: ($584.78, 4 players)
Turn: ($584.78, 4 players)
River: ($584.78, 4 players)
Final Pot: $581.78
BB shows:
UTG+1 shows:
Hero shows:
BTN shows:
BTN wins $581.78 ( won +$381.78 )
BB lost -$139.09
UTG+1 lost -$44.69
Hero lost -$200.00
| Quote: | | what site(s) are you at? Also, what have you noticed in terms of differences between the levels? I figure you will be the best to ask since you have just moved up after a pretty good stint at 100NL. |
Funny I canīt see your post in the thread, but in the "topic review" below 
Iīm playing on iPoker. To be honest, I havenīt encountered any huge differences between 100NL and 200NL so far, but 3k hands is a small sample obv. I havenīt adjusted yet, Iīm still running 13/11/4 and didnt feel like I was completely off track with these stats. Iīm gonna post detailed about the differences after 10 or 20k hands (unless I have to move down ) |
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Posted: Thu, 14 Feb 2008, 2:40pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1168
WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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played 100NL HU and dropped $440. HU is so brutal when ur deck is cold.
#1 villian is a 100NL 6m reg and was ultra aggro.
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Hero ($167.50)
BB ($141.00)
Pre-flop: ($1.5, 2 players) Hero is BTN  
Hero raises to $3.5, BB calls $2.5
Flop:   ($7, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.5, BB raises to $25, Hero raises to $88.5, BB goes all-in $112.5, Hero calls $49
Turn: ($282, 2 players)
River:  ($282, 2 players)
Final Pot: $281.00
BB shows: 
Hero shows:
BB wins $281 ( won +$140 )
Hero lost -$141.00
#2
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
BTN ($126.50)
Hero ($149.55)
Pre-flop: ($1.5, 2 players) Hero is BB 
BTN raises to $3.5, Hero raises to $12, BTN calls $8.5
Flop:    ($24, 2 players)
Hero bets $17, BTN calls $17
Turn: ($58, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $20, Hero goes all-in $120.55, BTN goes all-in $77.5
River: ($276.05, 2 players)
Final Pot: $275.05
BTN shows:  
Hero shows:
BTN wins $252 ( won +$125.5 )
Hero wins $23.05 ( lost -$126.5 )
#3
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
BTN ($105.00)
Hero ($118.89)
Pre-flop: ($1.5, 2 players) Hero is BB 
BTN raises to $4.5, Hero calls $3.5
Flop: ($9, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero raises to $18, BTN calls $11
Turn:  ($45, 2 players)
Hero bets $32, BTN goes all-in $82.5, Hero calls $50.5
River: ($210, 2 players)
Final Pot: $209.00
BTN shows: 
Hero shows:
BTN wins $209 ( won +$104 )
Hero lost -$105.00
#4
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Hero ($198.00)
BB ($49.10)
Pre-flop: ($1.5, 2 players) Hero is BTN
Hero raises to $3.5, BB raises to $6, Hero raises to $55.5, BB goes all-in $43.1
Flop:  ($104.6, 2 players)
Turn:  ($104.6, 2 players)
River: ($104.6, 2 players)
Final Pot: $103.60
BB shows:  
Hero shows:
BB wins $97.2 ( won +$48.1 )
Hero wins $6.4 ( lost -$49.1 )
BR $7232 |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 4:49am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1168
WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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Day 3 of 200NL. I hope this isnīt like quitting smoking where u arenīt over it as long youīre counting the days Finished $360 up
BR $7592
So far the difference between 100NL and 200NL is non-existant. The average stats for regulars hover around 14/6 which is quite easy to play against. Iīve run into one guy giving me trouble, but weīve grinded 100NL together and have history. At early evenings, when there is little traffic above 1/2 midstakes regs show up, but I havenīt got involved with one of them in big pots. My adjustements so far are marginal, preflop stats are similar to 100NL as is agression. Iīm playing less tables and am more focused and I hope I can maintain this level of concentration.
#1 Villian is regular nittag, too small a sample to have useful stats. Given his passiveness I didnīt see a chance to get away. C/f turn is out of the question with no reads, he played this very well.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($200.00)
UTG+1 ($74.25)
UTG+2 ($88.60)
MP1 ($200.00)
MP2 ($279.85)
MP3 ($43.00)
CO ($200.20)
BTN ($22.65)
Hero ($216.10)
BB ($40.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is SB
UTG calls $2, 5 folds, CO raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $30, 1 fold, UTG folds, CO calls $20
Flop: ($64, 2 players)
Hero bets $45, CO calls $45
Turn:  ($154, 2 players)
Hero bets $126, CO goes all-in $125.2
River: ($405.2, 2 players)
[Results Hidden]
#2 Meh, probably fucked up on my part. No reads on SB other than he seems nitty. I ran 16/15, so he might be tired of me running over the table. My thought process was like the following: Assuming heīs nitlike opening his calling range (Iīve met very few persons who adjust their 3betting range when Iīm active pre) his flop range is like AT+, TT, QJ, all of them exept AJ will probably c/r. 3betting flop may blow out AJ and AQ so we call. Turn is kinda good and bad news. AJ caught up, but AQ is ready to stack off now. We have 30% equity vs {AT+, TT, QJ}, $150 in the pot villian has $90 left. Pushy pushy, no?
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($222.95)
UTG+1 ($38.00)
Hero ($297.95)
MP2 ($35.00)
MP3 ($42.00)
CO ($195.00)
BTN ($73.40)
SB ($195.00)
BB ($367.45)
Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is MP1
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 4 folds, SB calls $7, 1 fold
Flop:  ($18, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $36, Hero calls $24
Turn: ($90, 2 players)
SB bets $60, Hero goes all-in $253.95, SB goes all-in $91
River: ($494.95, 2 players)
[Results Hidden]
#3 I must admit, that I seriously considered folding KK. No joke. UTG+2 is known ultra nit from 100NL, his stats dropped from 9/4 to 8/3, he may be even more scared at 1/2. Iīve played 5k+ hands with him and he NEVER 4bets anything but AA.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($207.05)
UTG+1 ($46.00)
UTG+2 ($136.75)
Hero ($322.60)
MP2 ($121.20)
MP3 ($508.60)
CO ($40.00)
BTN ($195.80)
SB ($89.00)
BB ($199.75)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is MP1
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $8, Hero raises to $28, 6 folds, UTG+2 raises to $54, Hero goes all-in $294.6, UTG+2 goes all-in $82.75
Flop: ($462.35, 2 players)
Turn:  ($462.35, 2 players)
River: ($462.35, 2 players)
[Results Hidden]
#4 CO was 25/4 donk. Iīve been active.Turn actually sucks, since it hit most of his fdīs. Before I could hit the check button Iīve come to the conclusion that heīs playing back at me with so much more mid ppīs, that I couldnīt give up
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($68.10)
UTG+1 ($71.30)
MP1 ($30.40)
MP2 ($203.20)
Hero ($245.00)
CO ($279.55)
BTN ($82.20)
SB ($417.26)
BB ($41.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is MP3
4 folds, Hero raises to $8, CO calls $8, 3 folds
Flop:   ($19, 2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO raises to $46, Hero raises to $100, CO calls $54
Turn: ($219, 2 players)
Hero bets $137, CO calls $137
River:  ($493, 2 players)
[Results Hidden] |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 6:55am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1168
WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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reading thru the interwebs Iīve found a nice quote
| Quote: | | If you want to play poker to make money, youre doing it for the wrong reasons, says Ferguson. You have to love the game, and you have to like to work hard. |
from http://timharford.com/2006/05/the-poker-machine/
itīs a very long article, but definetly worth reading! |
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Posted: Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 6:33am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1168
WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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Day 4, dropped $310
BR $7282
Iīm not running good at all. Iīve logged 7k hands at 200NL so far and my w@SD is full 10% below 100NL long term. Iīm either calling way too much or run bad. w2SD is constant at 24%, so I blame variance.
I think Iīm doing okay. VPIP and PFR both increased full 2% compared to 100NL, WWSF went up 4%, Att.2Steal grew to 33%. I guess this comes due to playing fewer tables and therefore reading hands better, not missing opportunities to steal anymore, opening up in the CO and HJ and slightly tighter opponents. Games havenīt become much more aggressive, execpt some OOP floats (lol) and annoying minraises/min-c/r over my cbets.
I finally figured out how to put a huge edge over the nittags in words: Raise preflop, cbet 100%, shut down if called. I donīt know, why 200NL regular nits have such a huge leak, but basically none of them floats their small/mid ppīs IP. I played one guy last night who appeared to float me OOP, but given his strong call-c/r line I gave him credit everytime.
Realizing this implies two more adjustements:
- Float my small/mid ppīs IP vs PFR>8
- Call mid scīs/AXs IP on ocassion. This is probably slightly -ev in a vacuum, but given my tiny vpip/pfr gap of 2.7% my cold calls are poorly balanced
Blind play
First off, I suck at blind defense, at 1/2NL even more. Fold SB to steal is at 97%, Fold BB to steal 87% and I thatīs a leak. I need to figure out how to plug this, BUT: how do I defend my SB vs 20-30BB shortstacks? It kinda sucks, I guess my BB could be running okay, since Iīm actively looking for spots to squeeze and do pretty well, but SB play sucks. In BvB Iīve experimented with two adjustements:
- Tightening up from SB vs anyone >12/6. Yea, this might seem weak, but I suck 1-on-1 OOP. Iīm willing to pay $1 if it keeps me from getting into trouble
- BB is quite opposite, b/c everyone sucks OOP. I ainīt 3betting all that much to defend my BB in BvB, Iīd rather call and float w/ 22-88, AXs, KTs+, KJo+, scīs occ. Works great and it keeps most aggros throwing money at me all night instead of slowing down in face of frequent 3bets.
#1 Villian is 16/6 regular. Weīve run into each other a couple of times and he seems to play back at me.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($204.70)
UTG+1 ($208.64)
MP1 ($83.25)
Hero ($236.75)
CO ($227.60)
BTN ($303.10)
SB ($25.00)
BB ($157.90)
Pre-flop: ($3, 8 players) Hero is MP2
3 folds, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, BB calls $6
Flop: ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $24
Turn:  ($89, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $70, BB folds
Final Pot: $156.00
Hero wins $156 ( won +$42 )
BB lost -$44.00
#2 BB sucks. Quite loose , check-raising/minraising my cbets all night. Didnīt 3bet flop, b/c I didnt want to blow out 66-88 AND b/c I needed a diamond or overcard to get him off any random J. His turnbet is so weak and he tanked before he called. On river I figured that he a) doesnt look like he had a flush/boat, given his weakish turnplay (a check on turn would have actually slowed me down) and b) that I could get him off any J and maybe a 5, which is unlikely anyway
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($232.00)
UTG+1 ($40.00)
UTG+2 ($52.55)
MP1 ($38.00)
MP2 ($84.98)
Hero ($404.30)
CO ($190.10)
BTN ($129.75)
SB ($39.35)
BB ($258.30)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is MP3
5 folds, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, BB calls $6
Flop: ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $24, Hero calls $12
Turn:  ($65, 2 players)
BB bets $20, Hero raises to $60, BB calls $40
River: ($185, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $125, BB calls $125
[Results Hidden]
#3 Same villian as in #1. His line doesnt suggest any strength, he canīt call w/ 88 thru TT and may even fold a weak Q
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($202.00)
UTG+1 ($74.80)
UTG+2 ($29.00)
MP1 ($118.15)
MP2 ($30.00)
MP3 ($200.00)
CO ($320.90)
BTN ($34.00)
SB ($186.20)
Hero ($206.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is BB
8 folds, SB raises to $7, Hero calls $5
Flop:  ($14, 2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero calls $12
Turn: ($38, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB calls $25
River: ($88, 2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero raises to $75, SB folds
Final Pot: $172.00
Hero wins $172 ( won +$53 )
SB lost -$56.00
#4 UTG+1 runs 16/7. First thougt on river is fold obv, BUT: a good part of his range on turn are 88,TT that both contain no clubs. River would be a great opportunity for him to take it away from me.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Hero ($215.05)
UTG+1 ($213.25)
UTG+2 ($56.05)
MP1 ($254.00)
MP2 ($39.65)
MP3 ($202.60)
CO ($200.00)
BTN ($39.00)
SB ($139.20)
BB ($40.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is UTG
, Hero raises to $8, UTG+1 calls $8, 8 folds
Flop:  ($18, 2 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG+1 calls $15
Turn: ($38, 2 players)
Hero bets $36, UTG+1 calls $36
River: ($110, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $40, Hero calls $40
[Results Hidden] |
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Posted: Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 5:03pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1168
WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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1.2k hands 200NL, +$540
BR $7822
#1
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($59.60)
UTG+1 ($206.15)
UTG+2 ($101.00)
MP1 ($39.70)
Hero ($203.00)
MP3 ($206.75)
CO ($237.50)
BTN ($240.65)
SB ($201.00)
BB ($88.45)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is MP2
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero calls $7, 2 folds, BTN calls $7, 2 folds
Flop:  ($24, 3 players)
UTG+1 bets $17, Hero raises to $44, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $177, Hero goes all-in $152, UTG+1 calls $19
Turn: ($416, 2 players)
River: ($416, 2 players)
Final Pot: $413.00
Hero shows:
UTG+1 shows:
Hero wins $413 ( won +$210 )
BTN lost -$7.00
UTG+1 lost -$203.00
#2 CO is standard TAG. I 3bet him like 4 times in 2 minutes.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($385.05)
UTG+1 ($119.40)
MP1 ($260.68)
MP2 ($130.85)
MP3 ($200.00)
CO ($201.15)
BTN ($49.85)
Hero ($195.00)
BB ($78.95)
Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is SB
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 3 folds, CO raises to $8, 1 fold, Hero raises to $18, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $70, Hero goes all-in $177, CO calls $125
Flop: ($394, 2 players)
Turn: ($394, 2 players)
River: ($394, 2 players)
[Results Hidden]
#3
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($157.25)
Hero ($197.00)
MP1 ($197.00)
MP2 ($40.75)
MP3 ($201.75)
CO ($200.00)
BTN ($250.75)
SB ($39.00)
BB ($48.35)
Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 7 folds, UTG raises to $18, Hero calls $8
Flop: ($39, 2 players)
UTG goes all-in $139.25, Hero calls $139.25
Turn: ($317.5, 2 players)
River: ($317.5, 2 players)
Final Pot: $314.50
Hero shows:
UTG shows:
Hero wins $314.5 ( won +$157.25 )
UTG lost -$157.25 |
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Posted: Mon, 18 Feb 2008, 3:25pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1168
WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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Day X, I stopped counting 
Played 1.6k hands 200NL fr for a net +$83
BR $7905
Iīm gonna post only a single hand, where I got owned hard. SB is soemthing like 16/6 or so, I have been very active in HJ/CO/BTN but didnīt showdown any junk. Flop minraise could be anything from a random J, FD, 22,88 to 66,77,99,TT trying to make a stand. With the FD on board his turncheck looked like a one pair hand, vs which I had good equity and of which Iīm folding a good portion out.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($74.45)
UTG+1 ($201.80)
UTG+2 ($211.00)
MP1 ($232.25)
MP2 ($201.10)
MP3 ($200.00)
CO ($40.00)
Hero ($214.60)
SB ($194.35)
BB ($186.00)
[MP3 posted $2]
[CO posted $2]
Pre-flop: ($7, 10 players) Hero is BTN
5 folds, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $9, 1 fold, MP3 folds, CO folds
Flop: ($26, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, SB raises to $36, Hero calls $18
Turn: ($98, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $68, SB goes all-in $148.35, Hero calls $80.35
River: ($394.7, 2 players)
Final Pot: $391.70
Hero shows:
SB shows:
SB wins $391.7 ( won +$197.35 )
CO lost -$2.00
Hero lost -$194.35
MP3 lost -$2.00 |
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