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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 5:05am Post subject: Sauce123's First Video for FTR: $200 NL 6-Max
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But who will mod the mods?!
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Posts: 5063
WPP: 107
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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This was recorded by Ben some time ago, but was put on hold due to some technical troubleshooting and other delays. It's now online.
$200 NL 6-Max 2-Table with Sauce123
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 8:34am Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Posts: 127
WPP: 79
Location: Middle of Norway
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Nice video Sauce!
Question to Sauce/others:
In some of the riverspots where u have checked behind on previous-streets and tries to extract value, u bet like 3/4-pot, they often fold (for example u 3-bet with KQ0, 1 caller IP, flop AK4, turn A, river 6? U bet, he folds). I often find myself betting like <1/2-pot and think i am getting called very light, what are your experience with this betsize in these spots, does it get way to transparent on higher levels? |
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 9:41am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 1383
WPP: 117
Location: value towning myself
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| awesome! cant wait to watch it. |
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 12:27pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 Nov 2004
Posts: 1252
WPP: 83
Location: Sweden
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| I like many of the concepts you are actively using in your play, you are clearly thinking about optimal bet sizing against your opponents ranges, something I feel many tags don't implement in their games nearly enough. |
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 2:27pm Post subject:
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But who will mod the mods?!
Joined: 04 Dec 2003
Posts: 5063
WPP: 107
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 3:31pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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Location: Deventer
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Nice video, solid play. Not been in many difficult spots, but not unnecessarily coming into them is a skill as well.
I like your not c-betting examples.
If you will be making another one I would love to see some more postflop agression, i.e. double barreling, betting on scare cards, turn semi bluffs etc. Don't know how often you get in those spots tho.
Xanti the audio and video were in sync all the way |
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 3:51pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 May 2006
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| is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ??? |
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 4:09pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| bode wrote: | | is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ??? |
haha yessss I was thinking the exact same thing! as I'm sure everyone with two monitors was thinking  |
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 4:16pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Mar 2006
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| Only halfway through, and I love it. Normally I doze off when watching a poker vid and turn it off after 5 minutes tops so good job |
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 5:45pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posts: 1957
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| i reigned in my impulses to rip on ppl during the video. impressed it came out so semi-serious. |
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 6:23pm Post subject:
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Flush
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Location: Huddersfield, England
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| Great vid sauce, much appreciated. |
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Posted: Fri, 08 Feb 2008, 9:25pm Post subject:
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Full House
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Your analysis of doubling the Q63cc flop was great.
For future vids, I"m sure we could all use some more analysis of doubling and tripling. Seems to me that that's one of the last things we learn that bumps are abilities from small to mid stakes. |
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Posted: Sat, 09 Feb 2008, 12:59am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Kansas
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you sound sexy
Really great stuff, Ben, nice job. |
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Posted: Sat, 09 Feb 2008, 1:03am Post subject:
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But who will mod the mods?!
Joined: 04 Dec 2003
Posts: 5063
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Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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| bode wrote: | | is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ??? |
Is it like this when you view YouTube videos at full screen as well? If not, there might be something we can do. If it is, then there's probably nothing we can do. |
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Posted: Sat, 09 Feb 2008, 1:08am Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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Posted: Sat, 09 Feb 2008, 6:15am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Xianti wrote: | | bode wrote: | | is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ??? |
Is it like this when you view YouTube videos at full screen as well? If not, there might be something we can do. If it is, then there's probably nothing we can do. |
Can you give us a download of the movie? It broke off somewhere for me and it seemed like the only option I had was to restart it from the beginning.. |
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Posted: Sat, 09 Feb 2008, 10:08am Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 02 Aug 2005
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| jackvance wrote: | | Xianti wrote: | | bode wrote: | | is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ??? |
Is it like this when you view YouTube videos at full screen as well? If not, there might be something we can do. If it is, then there's probably nothing we can do. |
Can you give us a download of the movie? It broke off somewhere for me and it seemed like the only option I had was to restart it from the beginning.. |
Broke of for me aswell, was good untill then. Would like to see the rest and a download option would be nice indeed. |
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Posted: Sat, 09 Feb 2008, 1:29pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 May 2006
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| Xianti wrote: | | bode wrote: | | is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ??? |
Is it like this when you view YouTube videos at full screen as well? If not, there might be something we can do. If it is, then there's probably nothing we can do. |
yeah, its the same unfortunately. |
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Posted: Sat, 09 Feb 2008, 6:39pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Location: World Citizen
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| Video and audio were nicely in synch fro me Xianti - fantastic video for the 1st half until it cut out. |
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Posted: Sat, 09 Feb 2008, 6:44pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| just finished watching the video. great stuff sauce. hopefully you make a few more of these in the future. |
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Posted: Sun, 10 Feb 2008, 12:20am Post subject:
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Flush
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Good vid. Ive a got a couple questions though.
First, you mentioned that you shoiuld not be c-betting in a lot of your 3-bet pots. Why is this, and which board textures are you more likely to c-bet and with which types of hands (ie. overpairs, whiffed AK, ace high flops with AK, ect.)
Second, I noticed that many times when the small blind open limps into your big blind, you are normally raising 6x rather than a standard 3.5 or 4x. Could you explain this further as well.
Thanks for making the vid and Im looking forward to the next ones. Hopefully you can get into some more three bet situations, post flop. |
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Posted: Sun, 10 Feb 2008, 1:07am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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Location: bluffing scare cards
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| It seemed like his bet sizes were automated. Is there a program that does this, if so what is it called and where can I get it? |
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Posted: Sun, 10 Feb 2008, 1:09am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| meeloche wrote: | | It seemed like his bet sizes were automated. Is there a program that does this, if so what is it called and where can I get it? |
im interested in this also. i think its just a bet pot script that you can customize to what fraction of the pot you want as a default. i use the chip reloader AHK but couldnt ever get the bet pot one to work right. |
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Posted: Sun, 10 Feb 2008, 3:49am Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 02 Aug 2005
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Location: Sweden
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| bode wrote: | | meeloche wrote: | | It seemed like his bet sizes were automated. Is there a program that does this, if so what is it called and where can I get it? |
im interested in this also. i think its just a bet pot script that you can customize to what fraction of the pot you want as a default. i use the chip reloader AHK but couldnt ever get the bet pot one to work right. |
I use this AHK script:
http://www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/BetPot
Sauce123 might be using something else tho, but the script does what I need but you might hafto set it up to fit your style. |
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Posted: Sun, 10 Feb 2008, 3:55am Post subject:
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Straight
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| Heya sauce, loved the video. I found the ideas regarding cbetting very interesting. I really have a hard time with that when I'm playing a 21/17 type game. Basically I cbet HU 95%+ of the time and I have a hard time convincing myself not to. I'd love to have some more in depth explanation on the subject. |
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Posted: Mon, 11 Feb 2008, 7:14pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 31 Mar 2005
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Location: Love me for a season
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the best thing about sauce's video i found was when he gets money in hard with like mid aces or anything ahead of the limpers range. I used to just check in the BB with like A8 or something with a bunch of limpers in the pot (Thinking "GG POT CONTROL" )and never really thought about the fact that i crush their range and I'm missing so much value by not juicing the pot right there and either making them fold or making a +EV cbet on a flop that misses their range. it's amazing how effective this is and i cant believe I've been missing so much value all this time...
Also the 8X bet HU with a completing SB, seems like it can force them into making a terrible -EV call on the basis from their point of view that they're heads up, followed by an easy cbet.
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