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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 4:02pm Post subject: AA on the bubble ($10+1) |
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Two Pair
Joined: 02 Jul 2007
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WPP: 53
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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 4:09pm Post subject: |
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OLD MAN RIVER
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Posts: 3462
WPP: 71
Location: Canuckistan
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FTR Hand History Converter Output (intended for copying and pasting into poker forums!):
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
BB (t3825)
Hero (t1803)
Button (t7092)
SB (t780)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with  ,  .
Hero raises to t370, 1 fold, SB raises to t780, BB calls t630, Hero raises to t1803, BB folds.
Flop: (t3363)  ,  ,  (2 players)
Turn: (t3363)  (2 players)
River: (t3363)  (2 players)
Final Pot: t2340 |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 5:04pm Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 04 Jul 2007
Posts: 183
WPP: 119
Location: California
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| Nice. I dont mind going 3way w a short stack in there, although this is probably better suited to multitable play. You got free chips in the middle with aces. Sweet. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 8:13pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 27 Mar 2005
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| unless SB cracks your aces and BB's hand, you'll be ITM. I'll take my chances |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 8:34pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 16 May 2007
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Location: Finding my game
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| Somebody explain me a scenario where you wouldn't go all in with AA. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 11:56pm Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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WPP: 46
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id fold pf cos id sesnse i was behind, mainly cos im a jedi.
Seriously stop being ruesluts oreintated. That is allllllllllllllllllll |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 1:17am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 67
WPP: 216
Location: Athens, GA
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| CoccoBill wrote: | | Somebody explain me a scenario where you wouldn't go all in with AA. |
| Geanooooo wrote: | id fold pf cos id sesnse i was behind, mainly cos im a jedi.
Seriously stop being results oriented. That is allllllllllllllllllll |
seriously. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 1:51am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 7628
WPP: 137
Location: Sydney
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| CoccoBill wrote: | | Somebody explain me a scenario where you wouldn't go all in with AA. |
Never in a SNG. The one situation I can think of that you might fold AA is on the bubble of a satellite where you're second stack, there are multiple short stacks and the big stack goes AI ahead of you.
OP, if you lost this hand, I'm sorry you got sucked out on. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 2:58am Post subject: |
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Two Pair
Joined: 02 Jul 2007
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| Geanooooo wrote: | id fold pf cos id sesnse i was behind, mainly cos im a jedi.
Seriously stop being ruesluts oreintated. That is allllllllllllllllllll |
Thank you. Fully understand that this is AI after SB shoves (and in every other case). I was wondering more about the 2.5BB raise in lieu of a push from the start - the whole bubble play, push vs. standard raise given our stack sizes vs. blinds.
Respectfully,
Soho |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 3:07am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 7628
WPP: 137
Location: Sydney
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| soho wrote: | | I was wondering more about the 2.5BB raise in lieu of a push from the start - the whole bubble play, push vs. standard raise given our stack sizes vs. blinds. |
I think the standard raise is good here. I would not open shove this. You're not scared of being called (in fact, of course you want it!), so why scare them all away with a shove? The only situation in which I'd shove this is if you'd been shoving a great deal up to this point and possibly shown down garbage hands; in that case a shove would be my move because a standard raise would look awfully suspicious. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 3:14pm Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
Posts: 156
WPP: 46
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raising is good as long as youve done it before a few times otherwise it kinda rings alarm bells if youve been shoving a lot.
If you have been shoving alot I prefer to shove it. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Jan 2008, 8:47pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 3097
WPP: 153
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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Hmm, is there a case for flat-calling the SB push and BB call?
On the bubble, isnt our most +EV play to knock out the SB? If we flat call we can check down incase the SB sucks out but the BB sucks out bigger, and if BB gets fiesty and pushes later in the hand we can always call.
Then again I guess if the BB sucks out enough to beat your aces, he probably will push and you'll probably call and be knocked out in 3rd place... |
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