Looking for feedback [new to cash games]

*Last edited by elitemob on Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 5:29pm; edited 2 times in total*

Hi everyone,

first of all, I wish you all a happy new year Wink

and to anyone who takes the time to read all that stuff I'm going to writing here: thank you for your time and feedback.

Second, I just want to write a few things down, so you get an impression of what kind of player I am. I started playing poker (Texas Hold 'em to be exact) about half a year ago and loved it. So I started accumulating knowledge, playing a lot, learning stuff, improving myself. That is with play money, of course. Within a week or two I started to get a real feel for the game and enjoyed it too. After a few weeks I also noticed that I was slowly building up my bankroll (went from 200 to 10k in half a year). Back then I also had the thought that one day, I wanted to try playing poker with real money. So that's what I did Smile

Basically I would say that I'm an ambitious player, always trying to improve myself, who treats poker seriously. Just so you know Smile

I also have to say that I didn't play much sit 'n go up until now. I first started playing SnGs with play money to get the feel for it and of course to prepare for my "real money excursion". Many articles about starting to play with real money recommended SnGs b/c you can learn and play a lot for relativly small buy-ins (I totally agree with that btw). Still, I ran into some (expected) difficulties. So maybe I'll just tell you about my experience with the 5.50$ single table SnGs so far.

But Before that: The style I adopted over time and feel comfortable is tight/aggresive, you know, the white wolf, waiting in the snow, ready to pounce Wink

I also know, when to quit (have folded those double aces quite a bit, knowing they were beat) and I have become very adept at limiting the hand ranges of my opponents during a hand. So in essence, I think I can play a solid poker game.

(I played a total of 6 SnGs which I almost all finished 4-6 place, one as last (stupid mistake *slaps self*))
One of the first things I noticed how extremly tight players are in cash games at that level (5.50$), especially in the beginning. I kind of expected this, but not THAT tight. In the end it doesn't concern me much though, it just limits the possibilities to win a large pot if you have a very good starting hand like AA, KK, QQ. or AK. I've noticed that you end up with the blinds a lot (I usually raise 3-6x BB PF depending on position and situation). In any case, if things go well I usually end up with a small plus (1500-2000 with 1500 for starters) on my stack after the first few players have left the tables. Sometimes I'm even in the lead, but I tend to run into problems lateron. My main problem is the bleeding. In the first two games I noticed that I unconciously tightened up my game even more when the blinds got higher, I essentially bled myself to death, so to speak.
Maybe an example from a play money SnG I had a few days ago (finished second) I was the underdog in headsup with like 3.5k against a 10k opponent. After some bleeding with total crap (you know, 3-7o and so on) and a bad beat I was down to 1.5k, so he just kept raising me >1.5k pre flop so I would have to go all in, which I never felt like doing, b/c I didn't have anything (not even connectors or gutshots) for 10 hands, when I finally went all in with AQo and lost. So what I want to know is how to defend yourself in situations like these, I felt a little "toothless". Of course I could just go all in and pray to god he's got crap too and "let me" steal the blinds. Even though all he has to do is have a marginal hand and call my all in when it essentially all comes down to luck (which is one thing I really hate; what I mean by that is generally people going all in pre flop, which is just gambling to me, something I'd rather not do).

All in all I noticed that I still bleed chips, especially later in the game, when things start getting a little looser. This may be b/c I am not adjusting fast enough, or I just had plain bad luck with my cards the last 6 games (those 3-8o kept chasing me, you know *giggles*)

In many threads of this kind ppl asked for an impression with a hand history, so I uploaded one ... okay I'm not allowed to post a link yet, so I'll just double post *ducks for cover* I would also like to say something about my hands, just so you get an impression of how I think. Please, feel free to comment. I think I can learn a lot about cash games Smile

In my opinion the table was very tight, if you ask me.
Hand 1: I knew the hand was very weak, even though I decided to "limp in" to see the flop, which in retrospect seems pretty unconsitent I might add, I think I have to work on that. Check/Folded since I missed the flop.

Hand 2: KQo, not that good to begin with in my opinion. (PF) I had the impression everyone just limped in with HILO, so I gave it a shot. When he bet 3xBB I was pretty sure he had top pair and I didn't want to risk drawing out on the straight, even with 2 overcards so early in the game.

Hand 3: Speaks for itself, I suppose.

Hand 4: Didn't want him to draw out on me. I was pretty positive he didn't have three of a kind b/c of "past" impression during the SnG

Hand 5: Well, It was starting to get a little looser, so I called with a low pocket pair, you know, the wolf prowling, but was scared away b/c of 77 (thought he had like A7 suited). Turns out I was wrong, he just wanted to protect his good starting hand with his bet.

Hand 6: limping for the flop (if you ask me, still a halfway descent position), hit the flop with medium pair but decided to be veeeery careful b/c of my position.

Hand 7: see 6, bet was pretty obvious to me, not worth risking low pair

Hand 8: I thought about the pre flop raise pretty long, decided to see the flop. I then decided for a strong raise, when he reraised all in, my thirst thought was: danger, overpair; so I quit to not get pot commited by him and get out, as long as I could.

Hand 9: I felt he either had A low, straight- or flush draw, in any case too dangerous for my drawing hand in my opinion.

Hand 10: Blinds are starting to get really high.

Hand 11: Well, the blinds took their toll, first good thing that I came across. Maybe I shouldn't have gone all in, yeah, but I could only have played one more round (blinds). That maybe was a bit inconsistent but I don't see how I could have recovered. I would have needed a looooot of luck, I suppose.

game over Wink

So just out of curiousity, what did you think? Just a bit unlucky? Does this happen a lot to you too? Huge mistakes everywhere? And what do you suggest in general. Continue with SnG? I also thought about going to the cash tables, but ended up deciding against it b/c of the general unspoken rule of having at least 10 buy-ins on the bankroll, which, even at the micro stakes tables is quite a bit of money, like 250 $ for the 0,1$/0,25$ tables. Even though I think I'll give it a try anyway sometime.

Well in any case. I enjoyed my first games, even though I didn't get into the money ... yet Smile

If you read to this point ... thank you again, for taking the time.

See you at the tables and greetz from Germany!

Ok, here's the hand history:

---Tournament Summary---
$5.50 SNG: Finished 6/9 for $0
Data for 39 hands.
You played 11 hands (28.21%)
You raised 4 times preflop (10.26%)

9 Spade

Q

BB (M = 50.00; f+f+f+f+c+f+c+r+F)
8 Diamond

3

SB (M = 49.33; c+c+f+f+c+c+c+F)
2 Club

K

BU (M = 49.00; f+f+r+c+c+c+F)
T Club

Q

CO (M = 49.00; f+c+f+f+f+F)
4 Club

Q

CO-1 (M = 49.00; c+c+c+c+F)
5 Diamond

2

MP2 (M = 49.00; c+r+f+F)
T Spade

2

MP1 (M = 49.00; c+c+F)
7 Heart

2

UTG+1 (M = 49.00; r+F)
9 Club

3

UTG (M = 32.67; F)

-----Hand 1-----
Hero's M = 32.67
PokerStars Game #14228861384: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/12/31 - 14:08:28 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (2690 in chips)
Seat 3: roofkid (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (1450 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (1320 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (2150 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1790 in chips)
Seat 8: jacoach (430 in chips)
Seat 9: Cabbalero (2200 in chips)
roofkid: posts small blind 15
dennis3038: posts big blind 30
Preflop: roofkid dealt 9 Diamond

A

Priestking: folds
showem58: folds
kango: folds
jacoach: calls 30
Cabbalero: calls 30
This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid: calls 15
dennis3038: checks
Flop: K Heart

2

T

roofkid: checks
dennis3038: checks
jacoach: checks
Cabbalero: bets 100

roofkid: folds
dennis3038: folds
jacoach: folds
Cabbalero collected 120 from pot
Cabbalero: doesn't show hand

J Diamond

8

BU (M = 32.00; c+f+c+f+c+F)
4 Club

K

CO (M = 32.00; f+f+c+f+F)

-----Hand 2-----
Hero's M = 32.00
PokerStars Game #14228938454: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/12/31 - 14:12:28 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (2660 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: roofkid (1440 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (1540 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (1260 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (1760 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1790 in chips)
Seat 8: jacoach (370 in chips)
Seat 9: Cabbalero (2680 in chips)
showem58: posts small blind 15
kango: posts big blind 30
Preflop: roofkid dealt K Club

Q

jacoach: folds
Cabbalero: calls 30
This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid: calls 30
dennis3038: folds
Priestking: calls 30
showem58: calls 15
kango: checks
Flop: J Club

T

6

showem58: checks
kango: checks
Cabbalero: checks
roofkid: checks
Priestking: checks
Turn: 3 Club

showem58: bets 90

kango: calls 90
Cabbalero: folds
roofkid: folds
Priestking: folds
River: 3 Spade

showem58: checks
kango: checks
Showdown:
showem58: shows 4 Club

J

(two pair, Jacks and Threes)
kango: mucks hand
showem58 collected 330 from pot

-----Hand 3-----
Hero's M = 31.33
PokerStars Game #14228975564: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/12/31 - 14:14:26 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (2660 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: roofkid (1410 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (1540 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (1230 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (1970 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1670 in chips)
Seat 8: jacoach (370 in chips)
Seat 9: Cabbalero (2650 in chips)
kango: posts small blind 15
jacoach: posts big blind 30
Preflop: roofkid dealt A Club

K

Cabbalero: calls 30
This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid: raises 120 to 150

dennis3038: folds
Priestking: folds
showem58: folds
kango: folds
jacoach: folds
Cabbalero: folds
roofkid collected 105 from pot
This Honkeyy has returned
roofkid: doesn't show hand

6 Club

3

UTG+1 (M = 33.00; c+F)

-----Hand 4-----
Hero's M = 33.00
PokerStars Game #14229018907: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/12/31 - 14:16:42 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (2630 in chips)
Seat 3: roofkid (1485 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (1510 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (1230 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (1940 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1805 in chips)
Seat 8: jacoach (310 in chips)
Seat 9: Cabbalero (2590 in chips)
Cabbalero: posts small blind 15
This Honkeyy: posts big blind 30
Preflop: roofkid dealt K Spade

K

roofkid: raises 120 to 150

dennis3038: folds
Priestking: folds
showem58: folds
kango: folds
jacoach: folds
Cabbalero: folds
This Honkeyy: calls 120
Flop: 9 Club

9

Q

This Honkeyy: checks
roofkid: bets 300

This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid collected 315 from pot
roofkid: shows [Ks Kd] (two pair, Kings and Nines)

9 Club

3

BB (M = 22.00; f+c+f+f+p+f+f+F)
9 Diamond

3

SB (M = 21.33; f+f+f+f+f+F)
5 Spade

J

BU (M = 21.00; c+f+f+f+F)
6 Heart

T

CO (M = 21.00; f+c+f+F)

-----Hand 5-----
Hero's M = 21.00
PokerStars Game #14229106357: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/12/31 - 14:21:25 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (2455 in chips)
Seat 3: roofkid (1575 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (1485 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (1540 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (1840 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1805 in chips)
Seat 9: Cabbalero (2800 in chips)
showem58: posts small blind 25
kango: posts big blind 50
Preflop: roofkid dealt 3 Heart

3

Cabbalero: folds
This Honkeyy: raises 50 to 100

roofkid: calls 100
dennis3038: folds
Priestking: calls 100
showem58: calls 75
kango: folds
Flop: 7 Heart

7

T

showem58: checks
This Honkeyy: bets 150

roofkid: folds
Priestking: folds
showem58: calls 150
Turn: 5 Heart

showem58: checks
This Honkeyy: bets 200

showem58: calls 200
River: 6 Club

showem58: checks
This Honkeyy: bets 250

showem58: calls 250
Showdown:
This Honkeyy: shows A Heart

Q

(a pair of Sevens)
showem58: shows 3 Club

3

(two pair, Sevens and Threes)
showem58 collected 1650 from pot

-----Hand 6-----
Hero's M = 19.67
PokerStars Game #14229131800: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/12/31 - 14:22:50 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (1755 in chips)
Seat 3: roofkid (1475 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (1485 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (2790 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1755 in chips)
Seat 9: Cabbalero (2800 in chips)
kango: posts small blind 25
Cabbalero: posts big blind 50
Preflop: roofkid dealt 8 Heart

A

This Honkeyy: calls 50
roofkid: calls 50
dennis3038: calls 50
Priestking: folds
showem58: folds
kango: folds
Cabbalero: checks
Flop: 8 Spade

5

K

Cabbalero: checks
This Honkeyy: checks
roofkid: checks
dennis3038: checks
Turn: 8 Diamond

Cabbalero: checks
[b][color=red]This Honkeyy: bets 100
[/color][/b]
roofkid: calls 100
dennis3038: folds
Cabbalero: folds
River: T Diamond

[b][color=red]This Honkeyy: bets 100
[/color][/b]
roofkid: raises 400 to 500

This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid collected 625 from pot
roofkid: doesn't show hand

7 Spade

3

UTG (M = 24.67; F)

-----Hand 7-----
Hero's M = 24.67
PokerStars Game #14229170535: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/12/31 - 14:25:02 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (1455 in chips)
Seat 3: roofkid (1850 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (1435 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (1640 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (2790 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1680 in chips)
Seat 9: Cabbalero (2650 in chips)
This Honkeyy: posts small blind 25
roofkid: posts big blind 50
Preflop: roofkid dealt 3 Spade

A

dennis3038: calls 50
Priestking: folds
showem58: folds
kango: folds
Cabbalero: folds
This Honkeyy: calls 25
roofkid: checks
Flop: 4 Club

Q

3

This Honkeyy: checks
roofkid: checks
dennis3038: checks
Turn: J Spade

This Honkeyy: checks
roofkid: checks
dennis3038: bets 150

This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid: folds
dennis3038 collected 150 from pot
dennis3038: doesn't show hand

8 Spade

2

SB (M = 24.00; f+f+f+r+c+F)
9 Diamond

J

BU (M = 11.83; f+f+c+c+F)
5 Club

Q

CO (M = 11.83; f+f+f+F)

-----Hand 8-----
Hero's M = 11.83
PokerStars Game #14229240838: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/12/31 - 14:29:08 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (1080 in chips)
Seat 3: roofkid (1775 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (1435 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (2990 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (2690 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1680 in chips)
Seat 9: Cabbalero (1850 in chips)
showem58: posts small blind 50
kango: posts big blind 100
Preflop: roofkid dealt K Spade

J

Cabbalero: folds
This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid: calls 100
dennis3038: raises 200 to 300

Priestking: folds
showem58: folds
kango: folds
roofkid: calls 200
Flop: 2 Diamond

8

J

roofkid: bets 400

dennis3038: raises 735 to 1135 and is all-in

roofkid: folds
dennis3038 collected 1550 from pot
dennis3038: doesn't show hand

7 Heart

A

UTG+1 (M = 7.17; f+F)
7 Spade

2

UTG (M = 7.17; F)

-----Hand 9-----
Hero's M = 7.17
PokerStars Game #14229298922: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/12/31 - 14:32:33 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (2460 in chips)
Seat 3: roofkid (1075 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (2285 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (2890 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (2640 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: Cabbalero (670 in chips)
This Honkeyy: posts small blind 50
roofkid: posts big blind 100
Preflop: roofkid dealt 2 Club

5

dennis3038: calls 100
Priestking: folds
showem58: folds
kango: folds
Cabbalero: folds
This Honkeyy: calls 50
roofkid: checks
Flop: 5 Club

A

4

This Honkeyy: checks
roofkid: checks
dennis3038: bets 200

This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid: folds
dennis3038 collected 300 from pot

T Spade

9

SB (M = 6.50; f+f+f+f+f+F)
5 Club

8

BU (M = 6.17; f+f+c+f+F)
7 Spade

A

CO (M = 6.17; f+c+r+F)
2 Diamond

4

MP1 (M = 6.17; r+F)

-----Hand 10-----
Hero's M = 6.17
PokerStars Game #14229365658: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/12/31 - 14:36:38 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (2510 in chips)
Seat 3: roofkid (925 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (2335 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (3860 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (2490 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (1380 in chips)
kango: posts small blind 50
This Honkeyy: posts big blind 100
Preflop: roofkid dealt J Heart

K

roofkid: raises 400 to 500

dennis3038: folds
Priestking: folds
showem58: folds
kango: folds
This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid collected 250 from pot
roofkid: doesn't show hand

5 Diamond

Q

BB (M = 4.78; f+c+c+p+f+F)
2 Spade

K

SB (M = 4.11; f+f+r+f+F)

-----Hand 11-----
Hero's M = 3.78
PokerStars Game #14229393409: Tournament #72219145, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/12/31 - 14:38:20 (ET)
Table '72219145 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: This Honkeyy (2335 in chips)
Seat 3: roofkid (850 in chips)
Seat 4: dennis3038 (2185 in chips)
Seat 5: Priestking (3710 in chips)
Seat 6: showem58 (2340 in chips)
Seat 7: kango (2080 in chips)
dennis3038: posts small blind 75
Priestking: posts big blind 150
Preflop: roofkid dealt 9 Diamond

T

showem58: calls 150
kango: folds
This Honkeyy: folds
roofkid: raises 450 to 600

dennis3038: folds
Priestking: folds
showem58: calls 450
Flop: J Club

2

showem58: checks
roofkid: checks
Turn: 3 Club

showem58: bets 300

roofkid: calls 250 and is all-in

River: 8 Heart

Showdown:
showem58: shows 6 Heart

6

(two pair, Sixes and Deuces)
roofkid: shows 9 Diamond

T

(a pair of Deuces)
showem58 collected 1925 from pot

Herzlich wilkommen bei FTR! Sehr gut, dass du hier bist. (I'm not German, I just studied some German at high school and also worked in Germany for a short time).

On your tourney:

1. A9s - this is fine. You are getting 7:1 odds preflop and have a hand that can make a big hand postflop. Just remember not to go broke if the flop comes just A or 9 high - you are playing this for the flush or flush draw (or two pair) on the flop.

2. KQo - preflop could go either way, I usually just fold it but limping isn't totally terrible. Flop is fine, and on the turn I would call the bet because kango called. If you believe that opp has top pair here you may have up to 14 outs (8 OESD outs plus 6 K/Q). You don't strictly speaking have odds to call this but if you hit your hand you could win much more than what is in the pot because opps might lose a lot of their stack (implied odds).

3. AKs - good.

4. KK - good hand - an overpair is very often the best hand on the flop at a low buyin SNG. you can make it 120 preflop, you don't want to scare everybody away. On the flop, your bet is good - you could also bet just a little less like 250 so that you keep opp in if he has a flush draw. One more thing, don't show - keep them guessing as to what you have.

5. 33 - this is OK, but you should only put lots of chips in the pot if you hit a 3 on the flop (and if you do you should try to get all your chips in). Generally speaking if you can win ~15x the chips you have to call, you have correct implied odds to call a raise with a small-medium pocket pair.

6. A8o - fold preflop from UTG+1. Don't limp in with hands like A-crap (and I would include up to and including AJ) from OOP. As played, I would raise the turn with your trips - if opp has a flush draw you want to make sure they pay to see the river. I would make it 350 to go here. As played, river raise is good.

7. A3o - fine.

8. KJo - don't limp here. If you want to play, then raise it preflop (and I would). The whole hand plays differently in this case. As played, your flop bet is good and I agree you have to get out when opp shoves all-in on the flop. That said, you will very often see hands you beat play like this.

9. 52o - I would check-raise all-in on the flop. You have a pair plus (weak) flush draw plus a gutshot straight draw, so have up to 18 outs - plus you have some fold equity on the flop.

10. KJo - this is no good. When your stack is 10x BB or less you have to either shove all-in preflop or fold, and this is not a good shove. You can't raise more than half your stack and then think about either a) folding if somebody shoves over preflop or b) somebody calls and bets the flop which you miss.

11. T9s - just fold it. Suited connectors play best when you can see a cheap flop against several opps. When blinds are high like this you are looking for high card power and T9s does not often have it. The other thing is, there is NO point raising 2/3 of your stack, just shove all-in if you are going to play (which I wouldn't).

If you have any queries, please feel free to post, and again, welcome!

du ist shceisse. aber jahren neun zwanzig. mein deutsche is sehr gut

First things first, Geanooooo, I don't think there is the need to insult anyone, especially since taipan168 just wanted to help ... and no, your german is not very good, it's horrible ... and no, you should NOT use babelfish, etc. to translate a whole sentence into another language.

Ok, now that that's settled, taipan168 thank you for the warm welcome, and thank you again for the feedback. I've noticed the general direction in which you point me and read up on icm and EV and downloaded some of the tools. In one of the tutorials I found a very good explanation about SnGs in general and I realised my biggest mistake (besides being/playing a little confused) ... I didn't really know about the transition between the two phases of "normal poker" in the early rounds and push/shove/fold in the later rounds, when blinds go higher. Seeing so many players go all in in the later rounds made me think "they're all loosing it now ..." while in fact they were doing what they could to survive. As I understand it now, the basic principle is, to steal blinds by raising all in, with what normally would be a marginal hand. Most people will already have folded if someone does sth. like that, so in essence they indirectly have a significantly improved hand (as to chances of winning, b/c there are fewer opponents). As a second thing they reduce the pot odds of the people still in the game making it less likely someone calls. If someone does call they still have a problem on their hands but in the long run will come up ahead with their decision. So my first question: Do I understand that correctly? Very Happy

I suppose I will have to learn and read up about the second phase as it's something really new for me. It's a very interesting and challenging thing though.

On a side note, your german is really good, just in case you're interested: willkommen is written with double 'l' and you could have used "Schön, dass du hier bist." instead of "Sehr gut". Don't get me wrong, everyone will understand you, it just sounds more natural this way Smile

Harrington on Holdem I & II and read up on the understanding of 'M'. Along with that ICM thingy..

I think ur roughtly getting it btw.

Thank you for the book tip, it seems like a great place to start reading up. I took a look at the index, it looks to me as if I'm at the beginning of a looong journey though *laughs*

At least it seems like I have a clue about the basic principles Wink

BTW: The cash tables seem to be working out quite well for me. There still is some profit, even at the low stakes. I'll probably stay there till I got this down Smile

lol sorry my german sucks. welcome to ftr!

Well, if you want to, just send me a PM and I'll give you my ICQ or MSN and you'll have the perfect opportunity to use your german ... even from australia Wink

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