Miffs Quit thread

Im seriously now considering quitting poker because i obviously cant beat 1/2NL. Im now stuck for probably 40buyins and cannot run good.

Im posting all my stats below so someone can try and make sense for me. Anyone who fancies a coaching role can PM me, as i might take it up but im just going to take a break because it seems obvious that i am not going to be able to beat this game of people making such bad poker plays.

My graph for the last 3 months (doesnt include my initial 10by in drop that i lost when changing computers)

My poker ev grpah, yes the last bit was my first serious tilt for a VERY long time. Normally i dont have any trouble with it (plus i got KK vs AA 3 times which didnt help)

ev graph is only for party/UB and I-poker where i have run like shit on all 3.

Perhaps the most telling stats.

Id like some advice other than lol you won 67k, otherwise im going back to 25nl on stars to figure out if i can actually beat the game.

your W$WSF is very low, I cant hate on the disparity between VPIP/PFR cuz Coco-Bill does that but youre most definitely not as good of a hand reader and valuebetter as he is then.

You're not positionally aware

I think you're way too tight in position and too loose OOP.

OMG what the hell do you do in the blinds?

You are folding too often post-flop - considering you're only playing 19% of hands you should be winning at least 40% WSF. Are you too weak tight, and playing against aggressive players savvy enough to pick you up on that?

If you don't mind me saying, I suspect you have a leaking game which is now ingrained after hundreds of thousands of hands, and if you seriously want to keep playing you're going to need to drop down and literally take it to pieces, studying each element of the game step by step until the big holes are patched.

basically what others already said...
- you're not positionally aware (this one is huge)
- you're sucking in the blinds
- you have tilt issues (omgwtf how did you lose so much in the end???)
- you are playing a VERY high variance style (as seen in your graph)

post more screens, like the more details in the general tab.

I think you can be helped.

I personally think ive gotten stuick bewteen my 30/20 game and a nitty 18/125 game i can play and now ive completely forgotten the simple things.

My positional stats scrae me to death only because i cant find how i am not 12/12 UTG.

Just remember, Chardrian almost quit, then he had a huge pay day.

Yeah so play the WCOOP main event

miff, as crazy as it sounds, go back to basics and go with a starting hands chart. i don't think you need to drop down in stakes, but changing what types of hands you start playing with in different positions will change the situations you get yourself into postflop.

how is your vpip 17 UTG?! what hands are you playing from UTG? that seems pretty loose to me.

By the same token, if you are going to be playing 17 VPIP UTG then your PFR UTG should be 17 as well. Don't open limp! Maybe at lower stakes you can open limp, but I think at 200NL people will own you for that.

I think you need to look closer at your blind play. Are you flat calling in the blinds against LP/button openers? You might consider 3-betting more out of the blinds with 77+,AJ+ against players opening on the button. Take control of the hand!

Yeah definately not positionally aware. Something I've also noticed about you is you're not opponent aware, at least from a lot of the hands I've seen that you've posted. I'll elaborate later when I have time.

you lost 10 buy ins with one large tilt session. 10 bi's is not that bad, so this shouldn't be that discouraging.

Obviously you can be helped just keep trying to improve and read the long rant posts on this forum.

*Last edited by jyms on Wed, 26 Sep 2007, 12:17pm; edited 1 time in total*

Wow, I never got the chance to ask since everyone did. What hands are you playng UTG and what hands are you limping UTG? Stop playing preflop with hands your folding postflop. These stats are reminiscent of a first year player just breaking out of micro stakes. Here is one example, AJo, never play AJo out of position, ever. ATs, never play ATs UTG until you can really play poker from that position.Until you get some help with this don't play anything not AQ+,PP UTG, and never limp.

More details tab please.

Id recommend taking a break from all things poker. Take at least a two week break and do nothing poker related. Come back determined and motivated to do well. Move down a level and grind away. Reevaluate your play and take other's recommendations and continue to post confusing hands.

Miffed...I agree with what has been said before, esp the comments about being positionally aware. You raise too much UTG and are spewing chips...certainly something is very wrong with your blind play as well. I lose .09 BB's per hand in the SB and .11 per hand in the BB. You are at .32/.50 which is crazy (yes, I play SH also). One other thing I wanted to mention is that villains are getting more sohpisticated so you must adapt. If you don't play a solid, adaptable (meaning diff play against diff villains) you will probably be marginally profitable at best. You are my BBJ hero so you can't quit... Smile

ur a good player...wtf?? i remember you posting about crushing the games a while back, obviously that skill doesn't just vanish. the other posts are prob right too...but maybe you need to take a break. i dont think quit, just some time to forget about this and play solidly again. a coach can also help - i recommend that from personal experience.

this is probably a good opportunity for you to try using the sauce123 strat since you're essentially "relearning" the game...sorta...and the sauce guide is VERY position aware.

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