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Posted: Fri, 31 Aug 2007, 12:01am Post subject: Bigspenda's Micro-Stakes Video Series |
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But who will mod the mods?!
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Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Posted: Fri, 31 Aug 2007, 10:19pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: anonymous, cuz then the morning comes
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OLL!
I always thought you'd have a thick Texan accent... |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Aug 2007, 10:25pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
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Good lord I hear that all the time.
I do drive a pick-up but I don't own any cowboy boots. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 3:38am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| I thought you were sitting next to Fnord on the right table first =o |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 7:09am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
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If no one else wants to analyze Video 1 then I will do it myself.
There are 2 debatable spots in this video, the 99 hand and the AKo hand.
99 hand
I open UTG and UTG+1 3bets me. At $5nl this is a seemingly very strong play. I am getting just enough to set-mine against what I assume is a strong overpair (QQ+). I flop my set and the mony goes in, whatever, that's not the point.
The point for you little grinders is this: if your opponents are 3betting a wide wide range (i.e.- one that includes 8c5c) then unless they are just complete spewtards postflop you cannot profitably set-mine there. The reason being they will just not have a hand large enough to stack off with all the time. Therefore you just start spewing calling his 3bet and c/f most flops.
AK0 Hand
UTG limps, BTN limps, I raise it up out of the SB. From comes A73 two-tone. I lead for near full-pot and they both call. Here is where I stopped thinking about their hand and just 1st-leveled myself out of a couple buyins. On the turn when I fire again and they both call that tells me I need to slow down. However, at that point the pot has 200bbs in it and I have Top 2 in a raised pot. The river sucks, b/c I just know he has to have 77 there but it's likely he sucks and has A7/A8 and isn't puttng me on AK (ld0). Boom! I get stacked, I really don't think there was a way to avoid it. The pot just got so bloated b/c of the 3rd player in it. It made my turn bet much larger b/c I felt I had to protect the big pot I had build once I made top 2.
Any thoughts? Anyone out there? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 7:57am Post subject: |
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Full House
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | If no one else wants to analyze Video 1 then I will do it myself.
There are 2 debatable spots in this video, the 99 hand and the AKo hand.
99 hand
I open UTG and UTG+1 3bets me. At $5nl this is a seemingly very strong play. I am getting just enough to set-mine against what I assume is a strong overpair (QQ+). I flop my set and the mony goes in, whatever, that's not the point.
The point for you little grinders is this: if your opponents are 3betting a wide wide range (i.e.- one that includes 8c5c) then unless they are just complete spewtards postflop you cannot profitably set-mine there. The reason being they will just not have a hand large enough to stack off with all the time. Therefore you just start spewing calling his 3bet and c/f most flops.
AK0 Hand
UTG limps, BTN limps, I raise it up out of the SB. From comes A73 two-tone. I lead for near full-pot and they both call. Here is where I stopped thinking about their hand and just 1st-leveled myself out of a couple buyins. On the turn when I fire again and they both call that tells me I need to slow down. However, at that point the pot has 200bbs in it and I have Top 2 in a raised pot. The river sucks, b/c I just know he has to have 77 there but it's likely he sucks and has A7/A8 and isn't puttng me on AK (ld0). Boom! I get stacked, I really don't think there was a way to avoid it. The pot just got so bloated b/c of the 3rd player in it. It made my turn bet much larger b/c I felt I had to protect the big pot I had build once I made top 2.
Any thoughts? Anyone out there? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? |
Still mainly a limit player but if your opponent 3 bets with weak hands isn't it ok to just call with your 9's then raise a lead any flop that isn't real scary depending on position? What i'm asking is do we really need to worry about set value against an opponent that will 3-bet a bunch of hands that we are already beating? |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 8:42am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
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| He was a player who had just played AA passively so I though he was really passive, I had no read on his 3betting range, until I saw his hand at showdown. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 9:48am Post subject: |
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Straight
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| littleogre wrote: | | if your opponent 3 bets with weak hands isn't it ok to just call with your 9's then raise a lead any flop that isn't real scary depending on position? What i'm asking is do we really need to worry about set value against an opponent that will 3-bet a bunch of hands that we are already beating? |
The problem I'm seeing with flat-calling someone that 3bet a very wide range with your 9's -- and playing them for mid-pair value -- is that you don't know where you stand. Sure, he could have 3bet with junk and you are good shape, but he could have also 3bet with a premium hand and you are way behind. Also by just flat-calling his 3bet with junk, you give him a chance to outflop you or flop a good draw. This seems to be a situation where you stand to win a small pot or loose a big pot.
* my $0.02 but I'm not good so I'm probably wrong.  |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 10:19am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
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OK, it's a bit of a complex concept for the games at $5nl but we shouldn't be at these levels a long time anyways.
99 is an easy hand to play here with the read I had. I felt this player was passive and when he 3bet me I felt like he had a big hand. It didn't seem like he was on tilt at all even after getting stacked holding AA just 3-4 hands before. It's obvious now he was on tilt but we CANNOT know that at the time.
Therefore, with my reads I played absolutely fine.
HOWEVER, and this is where poker players become way way way too results oriented, my play was not correct against a light 3bettor. I've explained multiple times why it was not, so I won't go into it again. The main thing YOU should take from this is that this is how to analyze situations. Anyone notice my reaction after I won that pot? Was I thrilled or upset? You would think thrilled but you would be wrong. Most players would go "YES!!" I just won a stack. However, I took note of what he 3bet me with and realized my play was less than ideal. That's the mindset you need to have. Don't just analyze your biggest losses, analyze all your hands and determine if you are playing well across the board.
That's all for now. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 10:35am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | Anyone notice my reaction after I won that pot? Was I thrilled or upset? You would think thrilled but you would be wrong. Most players would go "YES!!" I just won a stack. However, I took note of what he 3bet me with and realized my play was less than ideal. That's the mindset you need to have. Don't just analyze your biggest losses, analyze all your hands and determine if you are playing well across the board.
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This is probably the most important lesson to take away. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 10:59am Post subject: |
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Straight
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| For information's sake, how would you have played the 99 hand had your read been that the player was a light 3bettor? |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 11:14pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
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| miracleriver wrote: | | For information's sake, how would you have played the 99 hand had your read been that the player was a light 3bettor? | Good question. It's a tough answer and shows how light 3betting can be profitable. It certainly puts me to the test. If he's a maniac I'd just shove. If he's a LAGG I'll felt almost all low flops against him. The pot will be big enough to c/shove the flop after he 3bets and cbets. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Sep 2007, 7:58pm Post subject: |
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Flush
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Just wanted to say thanks for this. I liked your 50NL vids as well. Very informative (and I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of Stars. I really don't understand why it gets so much micostakes traffic with sphincter-tight tables, no Rakeback, and FPP's/Bonus so hard to earn at anything under 50NL).
Just a request-- would you consider doing a 25NL video at Full Tilt? |
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Posted: Fri, 07 Sep 2007, 1:16pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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Location: anonymous, cuz then the morning comes
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Good vids, bigspenda.
Im witchu on the 99.
But I don't often play or stacks with AK on A-high flop. |
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Posted: Fri, 07 Sep 2007, 1:21pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
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| wheeeeeeeeeeeee, 4tbl $5 Full Ring should be up soon. |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2007, 4:04am Post subject: |
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But who will mod the mods?!
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Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2007, 9:50am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
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| Alright, video 2 is up and running |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2007, 2:48pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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I would like to check these out, but my connection here is too slow. The videos just freeze and buffer every 7 seconds. 
| drtofu66 wrote: | | (and I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of Stars. I really don't understand why it gets so much micostakes traffic with sphincter-tight tables, no Rakeback, and FPP's/Bonus so hard to earn at anything under 50NL). |
That sucks... I'm playing SNGs at Stars right now, was just about to switch to ring next week, then grind up to $600 to take advantage of FTs sign up Bonus.
Perhaps I should revise my plan? |
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Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 6:48am Post subject: |
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But who will mod the mods?!
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| grnydrowave2 wrote: | | I would like to check these out, but my connection here is too slow. The videos just freeze and buffer every 7 seconds. |
Try this:
1. Pause the player as soon as you get to the video page.
2. Let the video load for a few minutes while it is paused. You can see the load progress as the bar at the bottom of the player fills to the right.
3. Un-pause the player to resume playback.
Depending on how slow your connection is, you may want to leave it paused and loading for a while and come back to it later to watch. Don't close that video page's browser window or leave the page, however. Doing so will restart the buffering from the beginning. |
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Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 10:31pm Post subject: |
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One Pair
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I watch the video but was unable to leave any comments.
Authorization Required
This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. |
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Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 11:53pm Post subject: |
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But who will mod the mods?!
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| jolub wrote: | I watch the video but was unable to leave any comments.
Authorization Required
This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. |
Try username "ftr" and password "review". |
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Posted: Wed, 19 Sep 2007, 9:54pm Post subject: |
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Two Pair
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I have a couple of questions..
1. What exactly does air mean?
2. You talk about 2-barreling, I'm unsure what that means. I'm guessing you mean betting two streets with nothing? |
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