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Posted: Sat, 30 Jun 2007, 6:14pm Post subject: Nut lo, No high Vs 2 players PLO8
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 3007
WPP: 93
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What do I do here? I figure im getting quartered alot. Fold turn? Fold flop? Shut my eyes and keep going?
PokerStars Game #10701883513: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2007/06/30 - 19:06:41 (ET)
Table 'Isabella II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Sassy1 ($1.57 in chips)
Seat 2: BUCKiBUDDHA ($2.29 in chips)
Seat 3: Pelion ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 4: The3rdMan ($0.39 in chips)
Seat 5: PAULSEPG ($2.50 in chips)
Seat 7: wiredaces222 ($2.46 in chips)
Seat 8: Muse99 ($1.94 in chips)
Seat 9: NurseSteph ($2.79 in chips)
BUCKiBUDDHA: posts small blind $0.01
Pelion: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pelion [Js 2h 4h Ah]
The3rdMan: raises $0.05 to $0.07
PAULSEPG: calls $0.07
wiredaces222: folds
Muse99: folds
NurseSteph: folds
Sassy1: folds
BUCKiBUDDHA: folds
Pelion: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [3d 6s 8h]
Pelion: checks
The3rdMan: checks
PAULSEPG: bets $0.12
Pelion: calls $0.12
The3rdMan: calls $0.12
*** TURN *** [3d 6s 8h] [7d]
Pelion: checks
The3rdMan: checks
PAULSEPG: bets $0.58
Pelion: folds |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Jun 2007, 10:21pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 1001
WPP: 198
Location: Melbourne
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I have no idea what people do at these limits. but lets change those cents into dollars.
Here I'd be willing to take my chances of getting quartered.
1. 3 way pot. getting quartered loses you 50. IF you get quartered. They don't always have it you know
2. you have counterfeit protection. You can get a good half if you get an counterfeiting A or 2.
3. your high potential is very weak, but not non-existant. Especially if it becomes a 2 way pot, a J can win you 3/4s... or a 5
so I'd call on the turn. stick it in on a A, 2, 5 or J river and check-call otherwise |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Jun 2007, 10:37pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| ok thanks. I did think long and hard before I folded but I had no real plan for the turn so I figured it would keep me out of trouble. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Jun 2007, 10:56pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 26 May 2007
Posts: 356
WPP: 114
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If Villian would raise preflop without A2, I'd strongly consider calling here. That's the one thing that sort of sucks about PLO8, you never know when you've got nut low against two guys drawing high, nut low against a guy who also has the nut low and is going for high and a guy going high, etc. As a general rule I try to avoid situations that look like I'm going to get quartered unless I have a ton of nut outs to scoop or at least 3/4 scoop.
As a general rule I believe the pot has to be 5-way for a straight 2-way quarter of the low to be profitable. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Jun 2007, 11:10pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 26 May 2007
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WPP: 114
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| A2 against A2 really stinks because you're faced with one of two options, donate money to the hand going high, or donate your equity in the pot to the other guy with A2 because you don't want to get quartered. You can never move anyone who doesn't understand the concept of quartering off of A2, so in order for you to protect your investment in the pot you actually have to fold and let the donkey get the equity, it's absolutely sick. The only other option you have is decreasing his equity at the expense of your own. How sick is that for being the better or worst of two evils. |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Jul 2007, 2:31am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 1001
WPP: 198
Location: Melbourne
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| overflow wrote: | | A2 against A2 really stinks because you're faced with one of two options, donate money to the hand going high, or donate your equity in the pot to the other guy with A2 because you don't want to get quartered. You can never move anyone who doesn't understand the concept of quartering off of A2, so in order for you to protect your investment in the pot you actually have to fold and let the donkey get the equity, it's absolutely sick. The only other option you have is decreasing his equity at the expense of your own. How sick is that for being the better or worst of two evils. |
just remember that everybody gets quartered. I get quartered. Sammy Farha gets quartered.
All you can do is decrease the risk and take your chances in the right spots. Here I think there's enough upside to compensate for the downside. Without the 4, I would fold.
Another error a lot of poor players make is they call on the flop with ONLY A2, and only 2 lows on the board, while having no shot at high whatsoever |
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