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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 8:36pm Post subject: I got Aces, TPTK and the nut flush draw, yup it's Omaha |
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 16617
WPP: 84
Location: Blowing Zook off his hand with Seven Deuce
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My opponent is a tight and aggro multi-tabler. He really likes to bet the pot. I've folded to a few of his second and even a third barrel before.
I don't much raise pre-flop, although I do quite a bit in position and with a fairly wide range. Although I don't know if he knows that. I'm pretty sure he's seen me showdown some real gems as well as stab at a fair number of pots.
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG+1 ($84.65)
MP1 ($67.50)
MP2 ($78)
MP3 ($61.80)
CO ($57.75)
Fnord ($116.50)
SB ($98.95)
BB ($29.65)
UTG ($101.80)
Preflop: Fnord is Button with A , Q , J , A.
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 3 folds, Fnord raises to $5, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $4, MP1 calls $4.
Flop: ($21) 7, 4 , Q (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $19.95, MP1 folds, Fnord thinks... ??? |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Apr 2007, 2:17am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 1416
WPP: 80
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Usually I will just raise the pot and gambol against whatever he has (if he even calls). I find that it's pretty rare that an opponent will donk for a full pot amount into the preflop raisor with a hand like top set. This is one of the important things to note in PLO- who will donk bet (and with what) into the preflop raisor rather than going for the more automatic check-raise when the money is one pot bet and then pot raise away from all in or nearly all in.
Most often this is some kind of combo draw or 2 pair that would much rather bet and hope you fold instead of checking and letting you decide if you want to see a free card or not. Since you have the nut flush draw, you have any straight+flush draw crushed badly (as crushed as draw vs draw can get in Omaha) and want all the money in on the flop.
You also are better than even money against 2 pair, plus even if you run into a set of 4's or 7's you aren't in hopeless shape (about 35% to win). Who knows, by raising pot here you might even get bottom set to fold if he's tight. |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Apr 2007, 5:38pm Post subject: |
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 16617
WPP: 84
Location: Blowing Zook off his hand with Seven Deuce
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I called (I only hate this play for balance reasons)
Turn is a non-spade Jack. He pots it with $20 more behind. Stick the rest in or call?
edit: original post said Queen, my mistake. |
Last edited by Fnord on Mon, 02 Apr 2007, 8:55pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Sun, 01 Apr 2007, 7:30pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 1416
WPP: 80
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| Fnord wrote: | I called (I only hate this play for balance reasons)
Turn is a non-spade Queen. He pots it with $20 more behind. Stick the rest in or call? |
Stick the rest in since if he is on a draw he will call, but won't bluff or call his last $20 off on the river if he misses. His line looks a lot like Q7/Q4 but it's still quite possible he just has Qxxx or a draw. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Apr 2007, 8:53pm Post subject: |
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 16617
WPP: 84
Location: Blowing Zook off his hand with Seven Deuce
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I called the turn too since I didn't think I had an edge over his range (remember, he's selective pre-flop.) Probably a $5-$10ish mistake.
River bricks, check, check.
KKxx no g00t. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Apr 2007, 9:05pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 1416
WPP: 80
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| Did he have a flush draw along with his KK? If not that is pretty damn laggy post-flop out of position... |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Apr 2007, 9:12pm Post subject: |
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 16617
WPP: 84
Location: Blowing Zook off his hand with Seven Deuce
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| I'll have to check. I think he thought he could shove me around figuring my range was wide and I wouldn't stand up to him with Aces unimproved anyway. |
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