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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 10:10am Post subject: OESD and a pure bluff on the river |
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Straight
Joined: 07 Feb 2006
Posts: 193
WPP: 120
Location: Sydney
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What are your opinions on this play, considering that this is within the first 10 hands I saw opponent play, and haven't noticed him in that time.
I call the min raise because of my OESD, and the turn bet is either weak, or is asking for a call. If he was wanting a call on the turn though, wouldn't he value bet the river?
Does my river bet seem out of place with my actions - particularly does it look like I have an A here?
EverestPoker Game #1327467481: Table Berlin-18 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:18:20 - 2007/03/30
Seat 1: Gaulede12 ($9.50)
Seat 2: S@m35 ($49.50)
Seat 3: flyingPeng1 ($78.44)
Seat 4: xav3314 ($15.15)
Seat 5: popy69 ($8.25)
Seat 6: Nicola82 ($30.29)
Seat 7: Jelmersma ($50.00)
Seat 8: greece666 ($19.85)
Seat 9: XMarsX ($46.50)
Seat 10: Reloaded2 ($50.00)
Jelmersma posts the small blind of $0.25
greece666 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to flyingPeng1[Td Jc]
XMarsX folds
Reloaded2 folds
Gaulede12 folds
S@m35 folds
flyingPeng1 raises to $1.75
xav3314 folds
popy69 folds
Jelmersma calls $1.50
greece666 folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad Qh 8d]
Jelmersma checks
flyingPeng1 bets $2.75
Jelmersma raises to $5.50
flyingPeng1 calls $2.75
*** TURN *** [Ad Qh 8d] [Qd]
Jelmersma bets $5.50
flyingPeng1 calls $5.50
*** RIVER *** [Ad Qh 8d Qd] [As]
Jelmersma checks
flyingPeng1 bets $20.00 |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 12:04pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 3910
WPP: 104
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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I'd fold the turn almost everytime, that was a bad card.
Do you normally raise TJo from the HJ?
As for the river, his check does looks kinda weak but I'd like to know if villian can fold here. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 12:15pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Jul 2006
Posts: 3999
WPP: 81
Location: Pwnsylvania
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Will he fold 88? Doesn't he have QQ quite a bit?
He makes the donk play of betting on the turn what he essentially (with the raise) bet on the flop.
So, let's assume he doesn't have an Ace. I think your river bet is too big. I believe $15 will get the job done just as easily as $20-$25. It's a good spot to bluff b/c unless he has QQ he's not c/bombing the river. He should have led an Ace here and he should definitely be capable of folding a flush/8's full. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 1:32pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 2987
WPP: 80
Location: calling
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| Fold to flop c/mr. Fold turn. Check behind river. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 1:44pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 21 Jan 2006
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| fo shizzle, you don't have to go after every draw you flop. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 6:37pm Post subject: |
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midstakes donk
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 1741
WPP: 48
Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
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| zook wrote: | | Fold to flop c/mr. |
no way |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 8:30pm Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 07 Feb 2006
Posts: 193
WPP: 120
Location: Sydney
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| zook wrote: | | Fold to flop c/mr. |
The only reason I would do this is if a flush draw is a large part of his range right?. I'm getting good odds here otherwise. I'm much more concerned about the turn call. If I had any read that he was in any way a solid player it would definitely have been a fold.
I don't think this villain has QQ here very often at all. That's from a general average player here read, not player specific.
I can see that the bet might be too big. I would probably bet less with an A, and a donk with a Q might check/call any bet here. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 9:41pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 2987
WPP: 80
Location: calling
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| Misread the hand, sorry. Fold turn still stands though. |
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