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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 9:37pm Post subject: any questions |
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EAT BUGS
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 9:38pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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g1u: want me to say it was your idea
LuKie StyLe 3: whatever, flip a coin
LuKie StyLe 3: heads you
LuKie StyLe 3: tails me
g1u: ill do the watch
g1u: u want first 30 or second 30
LuKie StyLe 3: first
g1u: was on the 24s
g1u: so u win
g1u: your idea!
LuKie StyLe 3: yes!!!
lukie's idea too |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 9:48pm Post subject: |
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Full House
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| Is this your Well thread???? |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 10:08pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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At which point did you become cash game elite? And by that I mean what level did you have that indescribable grasp of the game? And was there any kind of revelation that came to you at some point that kicked up your game a gear?
Assuming this is your well thread...? |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 10:36pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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| lets not call it a well thread, call it a ballin thread or something about pimpin hos |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 10:42pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: at your tables, calling your bets
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| Do you want the questions to be poker-related or can they be about being a baller in general? |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 10:46pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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| Galapogos wrote: | At which point did you become cash game elite? And by that I mean what level did you have that indescribable grasp of the game? And was there any kind of revelation that came to you at some point that kicked up your game a gear?
Assuming this is your well thread...? |
it might seem like i have this great grasp of the game but to me, i dont. everytime i have a losing session i start thinking of reasons why i lost. was i playing bad (tilting?)? were my lines not optimal?
there are 3 points of my poker upbringing that stand out and they all deal with aggression. i might not be able to convey what i learned in each but they might help.
1. when i was playing tournaments, rippy coached me in a couple. he was always wanting to raise and bet to steal pots even when my cards were bad. doing this and having it pound it in my head started me on the point to being aggro (and spewy alot i guess)
2. when i was moving up limits, i was asking alot of questions of old FTR member Allinlife, who was playing 5/10 at the time. when i finally got close to having the roll to play 5/10, i ended up on a table with him. the table broke and we were headsup. i didnt quit because maybe i would learn something or own him or get owned myself. a few hands in, i open KJ in the SB (this was the old party structure where BB=button), he reraises AJ to 100 on button i call. flop was 772 with two hearts, i check and he bets 150, i INSTANTLY min check raise, he pushes, i fold and he shows. to some it might just look like another bluff, but it really got me thinking what makes good bluffs. when i talked to him about the hand later on, i asked him how he knew. he said something like "you check minraised, what were you representing??" this seems like a stupid point but it got me thinking ALOT more about handreading and what makes good bluffs.
3. there was a hand on 2p2 posted where board was something like AQxxy (where the x is a low paired board). someone ended up on the river with AJ (or something similiar) and made a poll whether they should call or fold to a large bet. durr responded something like, "my favorite option isn't in the poll..."
this was another one that got me thinking about bluffing in a whole new way. |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 10:47pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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| mcatdog wrote: | | Do you want the questions to be poker-related or can they be about being a baller in general? | i love talking about ballin
like how my doctor told me not to drink for 2 more weeks and i just finished a beer. BALLIN |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 10:52pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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| gabe can you sticky that 2p2 thread if you have it bookmarked cause I have literally heard that Durr comment mentioned in at least 5 well-like posts as a turning point in ppl's poker careers. |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 10:52pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 25 Jan 2005
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| how are you so good at taking shots? what is your method for shot taking? |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 11:01pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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| sauce123 wrote: | | gabe can you sticky that 2p2 thread if you have it bookmarked cause I have literally heard that Durr comment mentioned in at least 5 well-like posts as a turning point in ppl's poker careers. |
was probably just me saying it on there, not that i've done a well post
i dont have it saved |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 11:03pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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| Trikflow77 wrote: | | how are you so good at taking shots? what is your method for shot taking? |
i wrote this in my blog and still agree with it, nothing ground breaking
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i like to take shots at bigger games. this could be when i'm running good, when i think i'm play really well, or when a huge fish leaves my table so he can sit at a higher table.
make sure you aren't playing scared money. if you are risking half of your bankroll, you won't be playing well. this goes hand in hand with the axiom 'dont gamble with what you can't afford to lose.' if you want to sit at a $200NL table and you have a $1k BR, you can't let it get to you if you lose it all. if you can't handle losing it, don't sit at the table.
i think its a great idea to take shots at bigger games when you are feeling confident. if you run good, you can book a nice win that would really help your bankroll. if you don't, you just gotta go back to the grind and make money back at the lower stakes.
when i moved up to $200 NL, i played broke even over my frist 20k hands. i was getting kinda sick of this and i thought i was playing great, so i sat down at a $400 table. after hitting a few sets, i was up to over $1000 on the table. i ender up running really hot (hey, i was due!) at $400 NL and never went back to $200NL. if you could see my PokerTracker databse you would see that over the 20k hands i logged at party 6 max, im actually down a few hundred.
don't use this entry as an excuse to play out of your bankroll. you have to be really confident and not risking too much (i think anything more than 1/5 of BR is waaay too much). Barry Greenstein has a good section in his book about this if you are interested in reading more. he was the one who originally motivated me to take some shots." |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 11:11pm Post subject: |
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Life Donk
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What and when was the last leak you identified and what did you do to plug it?
Who would win in a fight, IowaSkinsFan or Massimo? |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 11:18pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 25 Jan 2005
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| How many hands to you play in a month? What is your take on marathon sessions, are they good/bad/or meh? What level do you think your hourly rate is highest taking into account number of tables played and softness of the game. |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 11:21pm Post subject: |
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Full House
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How much does a buy-in matter at HS SH-NLHE? (look a vowel!)
(i.e. there seems to be a lot more stacking off on these weird hands, or is that just a misrepresentative sample?)
What happens when you play your 5/10 game at $200NL? (or whatever) Do you pwn the same? Can we small-stakes fellahs be putting all that stuff in place now, or does it have to come later? |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 11:27pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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| HalvSame wrote: | What and when was the last leak you identified and what did you do to plug it?
Who would win in a fight, IowaSkinsFan or Massimo? |
-seems like everytime i play i get better at laying down hands. when you have a bad image its hard to let go of mediocre stuff but the more hands i get in the better feel i have for it.
-whoever's owl says "hm rly?" |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 11:41pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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Gabe- I'm currently a 6.55 bb/100 winner at 3/6 and I still feel like a huge donkey in about half the pots I play. given the fact I still have a ton of room for improvement, how big a step up would 5/10 and eventually 10/20+ on stars and elsewhere be. Note: right now I also use little game selection, how important is moving money to multiple sites for game selection?
god i ramble, but someone told me stars 5/10 is easier then 3/6 because of the huge amnt of shorstackers/shot takers. meh. respond if u feel like it im goin to bed. |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Mar 2007, 12:07am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
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let's talk about a certain player on PokerStars (he goes by the name Lukieplaya)
this guy has:
played poker for significantly less time then you
has played a comparable amount of hands of NL ring as you, possibly a little more, despite playing smaller then you due to his very conservative br management
is self-taught
has made a comparable amount of $$$ as you at poker
while you might be up slightly on him head to head, he has actually done significantly better then you AT THE SAME TABLE over literally 10's of thousands of hands
HOWEVER
every time this guy talks about poker you BLATANTLY disagree with everything he says and consistently say how bad he is. I don't get it. If anything, he is a better NLHE ring player then you, albeit it's definitely close one way or another. discuss. |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Mar 2007, 12:11am Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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| sauce123 wrote: | Gabe- I'm currently a 6.55 bb/100 winner at 3/6 and I still feel like a huge donkey in about half the pots I play. given the fact I still have a ton of room for improvement, how big a step up would 5/10 and eventually 10/20+ on stars and elsewhere be. Note: right now I also use little game selection, how important is moving money to multiple sites for game selection?
god i ramble, but someone told me stars 5/10 is easier then 3/6 because of the huge amnt of shorstackers/shot takers. meh. respond if u feel like it im goin to bed. |
i dont know anything about the stars 3/6 game. if you have 5k that you dont mind losing just sit down and see how it goes. game selection is important but seems really hard now with less and less games. |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Mar 2007, 12:15am Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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i'm pretty sure lukie's post isn't a joke. i addressed him on aim, specific about this paragraph.
| Lukie wrote: | | every time this guy talks about poker you BLATANTLY disagree with everything he says and consistently say how bad he is. I don't get it. If anything, he is a better NLHE ring player then you, albeit it's definitely close one way or another. discuss. |
g1u: i disagree with alot of what you say because you dont think abuot the game deep enough most of the time
LuKie StyLe 3: no reason to think too much deeper then your opponents
LuKie StyLe 3: lots of players are ABC
dont really need to argue too much when his first response shows how shallow he thinks |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Mar 2007, 12:16am Post subject: |
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| i should add, to lukie and anyone else, if you want to talk shit put $ where your mouth is |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Mar 2007, 12:19am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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here's the full relevant part of the convo:
| Quote: | g1u (3:10:13 AM): because you dont think abuot the game deep enough most of the time
LuKie StyLe 3 (3:10:38 AM): no reason to think too much deeper then your opponents
LuKie StyLe 3 (3:10:42 AM): lots of players are ABC
g1u (3:10:50 AM): i guess ill post that too
g1u (3:10:52 AM): lol
LuKie StyLe 3 (3:10:49 AM): so u just have to be a little tricky, not uber-tricky
g1u (3:11:07 AM): your response shows how shallow you think
g1u (3:11:11 AM): ty
LuKie StyLe 3 (3:11:15 AM): np |
my point was that against a lot of the regs out there that are playing 'solid' ABC poker, there's no reason to constantly get tricky and make all kinds of fancy plays, despite what anybody tells you about these absurdly crazy dynamics in high stakes games (I'm not saying they don't exist, some people just grossly over-exaggerate them).
That's not to say that you shouldn't mix up your game, etc, but you don't have to get wickedly out of line or think on the 8th level when your opponent isn't capable of thinking past the 2nd or 3rd level or so, if that.
in any case, this post is so generic now to the point of being near-useless.
I actually came back to give gabe some props b/c he's actually a v. good player, I didn't want to come off like I was bashing him. I just never really understood why he never gave my game much respect. Whatevs.  |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Mar 2007, 12:20am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| gabe wrote: | | i should add, to lukie and anyone else, if you want to talk shit put $ where your mouth is |
we have played 10's of thousands of hands together. If that's not putting $ where the mouth is, I don't know what is. I don't play you hu b/c I will readily admit that you are a better HU player then I am. I am ok with this (for the time being). |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Mar 2007, 12:29am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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