The roll is gone...

Okey, before I start whining I just want to say a thing. My old FTR account got lost, that's why I got 1 comment etc.

I have played poker for 2 years, my dream is to be able to make a living out of poker, I'm still in school so I got alot of time to get better at the game.
I started out playing with friends, they teached me the game, and ever since I have always wanted to be able to make some cash playing.

I don't got alot of money (since I'm still in school). But I have some and I cashed into PartyPoker in tuesday last week. Why PartyPoker you might ask. Becuse there's the fish, I have played on Prima network before but I've found out that the players there are alot more dedicated and better. So why not play against fish if you can.

Anyway, I deposited 200$ into my account and started playing. I played a bit on 0.50/1$ at first. And everything went fine, before I knew it I was up to 400$. I like to play short stacked. So after a while I sat down at 2/4$ with 80$, why not take a shot I thought.
I think I got a really good understanding on how to play short stacked. I fell the reason I'm winning at all is becuse I'm able to read people. I can tell if my opponent got the cards of if he's bluffing, how to get the most chips out of him as possible. And I always put my chips in with the best hand.

The 2/4$ worked out like a charm, I played all week, and on the friday I had 1000$. Now this is the biggest bankroll I've ever had, and I was jumping with joy, 1000$ is really nice for a student.

Now, I thought, I'm on such roll I'm gonna keep playing :E
You can imagine how this turns out.
I kept playing at the 2/4$ tables with 150$ buyin everytime. Suddently I'm not cathing any cards. But I still wait for the good hands and play them, but unfortunly, getting alot of bad luck. After loosing 2x150$ buyins I still kept playing. Why? Becuse I know I am playing better poker then my opponents, I know this becuse I'm always all-in with the best hand, every time.

So yeah, I kept playing until I had 150 left and saved them for the saturday. That day I actually won some and was up to 350$. But your luck can change fast and suddently that money was gone.

I just can't belive I had 1000$. I don't really know what to say, I lost it cus of bad luck, and noone can say any different, cus if you get your money in with the best hand and still loose...

The reason I'm making this thread: Hm, I feel smashed. I want consolation. Has this happend to you guys? Ofcourse I'm not the only one. But you guys that are established players now, did you have bad hits like this when you started out too?

What I would like to read the most right now, is your stories. Tell me when you got beaten like this.
How did you cope with it?

Tell me of when you started playing, how did you get established?

I think you guys get where I'm heading with this.
And if you've read all the way down here, thanks.

I went through 2 seperate $200 rolls. I am on my 3rd roll and I have built it up to $850 (with a $800 cashout, tsk tsk, I know) just through solid play and Bonus whoring. The two rolls were before I found SSLHE and FTR.

How did you manage to have an FTR count before, but not read the Bankroll Management thread?

I don't really know what to say, I lost it cus of bad luck, and noone can say any different

May I ask that you post some hand histories of losing pots, especially the more marginal ones? We *might* be able to say different, and if we can and we can say why, then it can only make you a better player. And if all your hands are played brilliantly, we'll let you know that too Smile

You may have in fact been a winning player, but if you are playing with less than 2 buy ins (and although you did buy in for $80, it actually has pretty much the same swing as buying in for $400, which is why i say 2 buyins)... we all go busto if we play with 2 buy ins.

Yeah I know, my Bankroll Management is not good at all, and I know it's stupid to play those tables with that roll. The reason I did/do it is becuse at smaller stakes the game is based more on luck then skill cus people play like donkeys. Bet you can exploit this in some way but...
I wanna win money outplaying people, not getting lucky.

I'l try to post all the major hands I went broke on when I get home from school.

When I first started I woudl get on a "good tilt" seemed like some days I would play and could do no wrong get in with the best hand and win.....so the next day you naturally expect things to work out the same way not so the case.
You just can't expect to win every time and when you lose your buy in stop for at least the day if you are on tilt take enough time off until your off tilt. I had to take 3 weeks off once because I went broke with 3 or 4 suck outs in a row and then gave the rest of my money to some guys AA with my KK...hope this helps

*Last edited by Fragmad on Mon, 26 Mar 2007, 11:23am; edited 1 time in total*

Trainer_jyms Very Happy

Got to love your unfriendly comments.

Change of attitude, this will sound crazy, but my thoughts about poker have changed alot since I posted this thread, and after I've read pretty much on the forums. I can tell you how my vision of poker have changed. I realise that Bankroll Management is a BIG part of a succesfull poker player, and I will follow some rules in the future, always have 20xbuy-in at the current level before I even think of changing up to higher stakes.

I actually still had 5$ after this beat. And I'm still playing. I'm currently playing 0.05/0.10. The 5$ is currently 60$, been grinding for some hours tonight Very Happy

I can't say I like it at these stakes, but I will give a serious try at this now and won't play at higher tables before I got atleast 200$.

I'll update on my current BR whichever way it goes each day Smile

Current BR: 60$

Dude, your poker roll is your poker roll. There are a lot of people on this forum who have rolls that are 2% of what they make in a year but they follow proper Bankroll Management because it is the best way to build your roll and eventually get to your desired stakes.

You think it was fun for me to play $10NL? No, but we have to start from somewhere. We have to improve our game until we can soundly beat each stake overall a large sample size and only then should we move on to the next level. BTW, $60 isn't enough for $10NL, I hope you're playing .05/.10 limit.

If I can do my UN bit 20 buy in's at the next level is 40 at the current level.

Having experienced a 12-buyin downswing without going busto, I know what Bankroll Management is all about... Use it!

Dropping 4 buyins with the best hand isn't as much as you think yaknow.. I sympathise with what happened to you, it's happened to a lot of us when we were starting out.

Firstly you are nuts to play cash online, go find a casino or an underground card game. Second if you are going to play seriously you have to play for higher stakes. You can't beat the rake at 2/4 or 4/6. If you cash in for 100 bucks at 3/6 and leave with 100 bucks you have actually lost. The house takes too much, add to it the collusion and other rigged crap that goes on with internet poker your nuts to risk good money online. Also consider playing no limit, limit hold em is garbage and at the low levels you play there are idiots that will always chase cause it doesn't cost them anything. Percentages are with them to catch from time to time and if you are not careful you will lose your bankroll in minutes when you go on tilt.

I think that's about enough from this thread and from pbop.

OP, you ask for advice, don't show a willingness to accept it, get offended by serious comments, and only seem to want to listen to people who are telling you what you want to hear.

I have little sympathy for you if you do not follow proper Bankroll Management. That's the total truth. You're nowhere near as good as you think you will go busto again. We all have better things to waste our time on than this.

Bigspenda, noone is forcing you to even read this thread. I don't get offended by serious comments, but i.e when someone tells me that I don't get anything that BR Managment is about, they are just wrong, and their talking about things they don't know squid about. I'm well aware of how to manage my roll, I'm not stupid. I know I did wrong, and I'm trying to get better. I thought this forum excisted so that people with experience could give advice to noobies, and to discuss poker ofc. And what, I can't say thanks to a guy that actually writes a nice post?

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Fragmad, dog helps those who help themselves. Listen to dog. I know that Jesus is in your heart, but

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