NLHE T&P Concept #17

What do you guys think about this idea from the concepts section of NLHE T&P:

Concept 17:
If your preflop raise is called behind you, check a lot of flops.
Unlike limit holdem where you usually bet the flop after your raise is called, in no limit you should often check to those callers. That's true even if there is only one caller. You should usually check if you don't have very much, and you should check a lot of your good hands as well. What you do after you check is dependent on your hand and your opponents, and don't be afraid every once in a while to check-raise bluff.

This struck me because it is pretty much the opposite of what I do. Any thoughts?

This is completely new idea. It is tought provoking. Maybe because c betting is widely recommended, if you don't c bet, it is interpreted as a slowplay so you can get free cards by doing that especially if you check raise sometimes. However, I think it only works against thinking opponents. It is completely different style from mine and something worth thinking about.

I've been trying some 6max in the last few days and I feel like cbetting every time can be exploited there more easily, but at full ring 50 it seems to work pretty well.
It is always a tough spot when your cbet gets called or raised and you don't have much, but I think I am profiting anyway with all of the times I have TT or JJ and an A or K flops, I cbet and take the pot. So many people just call with small pocket pairs and then fold when they don't hit.
If you check and they bet because of your weakness, you have to either check/raise, fold, or smooth call and try to take it on the turn. All of these get pretty expensive if you're wrong.
Sklansky tries to balance this with throwing in some check-raise bluffs, but I don't know if people at this level are paying close enough attention to realize you are capable of that and becoming more cautious as a result. I think oftentimes you are just losing control of the hand.
I'd like to hear some contrary explanantions to what I'm thinking, because Sklansky may know a bit more about poker than me. This idea is just in the "concepts" section, so the only explanation offered by him is what I quoted above.

At this level, I believe it doesn't pay off. Maybe you can try it at higher stakes. Fnord mentioned something interesting here.

obv, it really depends on your caller. it's spew to c-bet into someone who will call you down with bottom pair.... and many people will do this at 6max (correctly!)

I think the most important thing to note here is that hero is OOP, vs. someone who probably has a better hand (since it typically takes a better hand to call a raise than open with one). It also only applies if your opponent is somewhat decent (or bad, but not a calling station)

Consider that the typical mid stakes NL player's biggest leak is hyperaggression, and you can see that checking moderately strong and even very strong hands upon occasion has the potential to earn more than betting your hand.

Another thing to consider is that most players aren't imaginative enough to think beyond a deterministic strategy. When you mix it up by occasionally checking showdown quality hands on the flop, you make yourself very difficult to read to the hopeful floater or small pair looking to push you off overcards.

Looks like I have to change my strategy and all players at 2+2 and FTR have to do it too due to that idea. I c bet almost every time against 2 opponents.

Interesting that this topic came up because I was pondering of how to pawn the 6-max $10 and $25NL on Stars with its weak-tight/tight-aggressive players. My own stats are usually 20/12 and I have c/betted the flop almost always when I was the original raiser. However, yesterday I tried to check the flop from time to time (on non scary boards I might add) and it was mind-boggling how often people bet weak with nothing when it’s checked to them. Then they fold to a re-raise or call your flop c/raise and then again weakly attempt to take down the hand on the turn. I have done this last night with both air and good hands and after doing this about 3-4 times my good hands got paid off a lot. I think Sklansky presented this concept for exactly this purpose.

sklansky doesn't even play poker guys

I've been experimenting with this. Pretty much you check your air and hands you're playing for stacks and bet the rest. I don't do it versus aggressive opps because their betting doesn't define their hand. pretty much it forces opponents to define their hands to you.

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