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Posted: Wed, 27 Dec 2006, 3:24pm Post subject: two bluffs with the good ol 89s |
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7805
WPP: 50
Location: trying to live
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both opponents are relatively tight, not any meaningful history. ive been playing tight but not sure how much anyone notices.
hand 1
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
Hero ($985)
SB ($900.75)
BB ($932)
UTG ($1000)
MP ($1158)
CO ($1919.55)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 8 , 9.
UTG calls $10, MP calls $10, CO raises to $60, Hero calls $60, 2 folds, UTG calls $50, MP folds.
Flop: ($205) T, 2 , 4 (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.
Turn: ($205) 5 (3 players)
UTG checks, CO bets $150, Hero calls $150, UTG raises to $350, CO folds, Hero calls $200.
River: ($1055) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $575 (All-In)
hand 2:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
UTG ($1253)
MP ($1198.75)
Hero ($3075.50)
SB ($765)
BB ($2425.75)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 8 , 9.
2 folds, Hero raises to $30, 1 fold, BB calls $20.
Flop: ($65) 5, 9, 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $50, BB raises to $150, Hero calls $100.
Turn: ($365) K (2 players)
BB bets $250, Hero calls $250.
River: ($865) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $360 |
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Posted: Wed, 27 Dec 2006, 3:45pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 25 Jan 2005
Posts: 1524
WPP: 109
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1: Wondering why you didn't bet the flop in hand 1. What's with this guy limping UTG? You can't check so you pretty much have to take a shot at pushing him off his hand.
2: He's calling with any low/mid diamond, raising any Q+ diamond and folding otherwise. But you beat everything else. I guess you don't want to show by checking behind? |
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Posted: Wed, 27 Dec 2006, 3:50pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 1853
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Location: The Loser's Lounge
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What do you think UTG is reraising on the turn with in hand #1?
Hand #2 I like, there's so much crap out there now that he has to be afraid of a push. |
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Posted: Wed, 27 Dec 2006, 3:58pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
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| no idea what he was check raising with in hand 2, but he calls too much so i didnt want to push turn as bluff and get called by the nutflush draw. if i had as6s or something i might have pushed over his weird c/r. |
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Posted: Wed, 27 Dec 2006, 5:00pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Posts: 1201
WPP: 146
Location: Honolulu
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| I like both. I'd probably bet the flop in the first hand but I understand your reason for checking. I also might bet a little more on river for hand 2 bc I think this is a good spot for bb to c/r bluff you. |
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Posted: Wed, 27 Dec 2006, 5:30pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 1523
WPP: 113
Location: Downswinging holla!
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Hand 1: Good
Hand 2: I think you're good way too often to turn your hand into a bluff here. I don't like, especially the bet size. And like bdawg said he can c/r bluff your weakish river bet with a lot of hands. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 10:54pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
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Location: trying to live
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Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 6:29am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Mar 2006
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| Don't you think if he folds in hand 2 you had him beat anyway?.. |
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Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 11:25am Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7805
WPP: 50
Location: trying to live
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| if hes bluffing flop with a mediocre diamond, he will always check the river and try to get a free showdown. he might have Td9 or something too. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 9:55am Post subject: |
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 2699
WPP: 72
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Hand 1: UTG probably had a set but got "screwed" on the river. Nice bluff
Hand 2: i don't like this. If he has a diamond it's probably relatively high, and your hand has good showdown value if he doesn't have one. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 4:05pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
Posts: 389
WPP: 326
Location: IL
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| On hand #1, why weren't you worried about a lone ace? or at those stakes and those lines it is highly unlikly? |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Jan 2007, 4:26pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Jul 2004
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I don't like 1, just because your river bet is so small! ... he kinda has to have exactly 2 diamonds with no ace or air for this to work. I guess you can maybe not even beat air, so you have to bet.
2... at least it seems like you are suck betting more with a big stack behind...
Both these hands seem to require villian to make a big laydown; 1st more than a second (because at least you have somethin'... and maybe higher trips or baby flush folds... and maybe AK no diamond or AA calls you wierdly.) |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Jan 2007, 5:19pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 3580
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Location: emo-kid
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| at first i didn't like hand 1. i think it looks like they missed the flush draw as well. i'm not sure why you chose to take the free card instead of betting the flop tho...?? |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Jan 2007, 6:33pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
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Location: trying to live
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| sometimes i bet, sometimes i check |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Jan 2007, 6:38pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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if I'm villain hand 2 convinces me more than hand 1 although the fun part of hand one is being able to bluff both of the flushes that can hit
villain makes crying call in hand 2 with low flush? |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Jan 2007, 6:47pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS
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| gabe wrote: | | they folded both | |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Jan 2007, 6:55pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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| yeah i c that now i just don t like reading threads if i m gonna reply to a post honestly |
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