Drive to $100NL (still the same thread)

*Last edited by jyms on Mon, 30 Oct 2006, 1:12pm; edited 1 time in total*

I decided to go to Crypto. No big suprise there. I spent some time researching several sites, after two suggestions, PokerPlex and Sun. They are both great. I decided to start with Sun only because of the extra$100 for FTR members. It'll help since I'm a little short for $25NL and CryptoLogic hasn't got any stakes lower to play on. I will split my time between these two sites and I think for the next while these will be home. Anything else will just be for whoring.

Some observations about this network. You can modify the table. I love being able to do this. I delete everything and play on a black background. Makes everything easier to find. The colours on the hud stand out. You see how many have entered the pot without problems. For an old man like me, with bad memory and distractions, It's easier to multitable without all the clutter. I can't tell you how many times I've C-bet into someone 3 way that I didn't see holding cards when I thought I had isolated someone else. The lowest limit is $25NL like I said so all the worst players on the site are on these tables. I would compare the play to any $5NL or $10NL table at Ultimate or Stars. It makes it really swingy playing 6 max. Here's my start.

Keep in mind, I had no notes on anybody. Some of these stackings are weak ass players going all in with villians Ax vs. my KK. Villians 8 6 vs. my AA that catches 2 pair on the river after all in post flop when the villian has TP. Now mind you, as you can see, I don't mind that at all. I get it back. It's just the up and downs are scary when you only have a limited roll.

Quick story, I may be wrong on a detail or two but this is the jist of the story. I was 6 tabling at the time so I miss some details once in a while. I get KK on or near the button. Raise to $1.25. Some super aggro with 3x buyins reraises to $5. I call. Flop Axx, He leads out with about $9 and I call. I figure he's either bluffing badly or I'm way behind. But he reraised post flop a few times before this and I folded out so it's as good a hand as any to take a stand against this guy who's obviously bullying the table. If for anything else, I can get my money back later since he's not leaving with anyones money and he will think twice about reraising if he thinks I will call him on it. Anyway he checks the turn when Q falls, I bet $10 trying to get it all in. He pushes. I call. He's holding 8T off. WTF! $50 slides back to me and he goes ape.

Why you calling those bets with KK?
There is an A on board and you called???
You suck.
Do you even know how to play?
I knew what you had and I represented an A.
How can you call that?

I love guys that think, you suck cause you should have folded to my obviously paired Ace. Or not.

Well I have $3 over my $200 deposit, I have $350 in playable Bonus and money, and am also currently working of the FTR $100 extra Bonus, that requires 1500 MPP's. The first deposit Bonus and the FTR 100 are clearing at the same time. I also have already earned $11 in Rakeback. ,WEEE. Heading to Poker Plex right after these clear and then back again. If I can break even at Sun I will have $450 plus Rakeback. Sounds doable. thanks again Biondino and Anosmic for the site suggestions and PM's. Already have 144 MPP's after 2 days and 1200 hands. A much easier Bonus to clear than Riverbelles.

Just noticed, Page 2, woohoo.

Maybe review time. ??

Where is this $350 Bonus money at?

Here's the hand from yesterday that the guy freaked out about. My memory is shit. I was in the BB but the rest applies.

CryptoLogic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 5 Diamond

5

Hero calls, CO raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 8 Spade

5

J

($2.4, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, CO raises to $6, Hero raises all-in $25.2, CO calls.

Turn: 7 Diamond

($52.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $52.8)

River: 2 Spade

($52.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $52.8)

Results:
Final pot: $52.8
Hero shows 5d 5c
CO shows Jh 8d

I'll tell ya, it gets real confusing what to do with some of these hands. I'm all over the map with my play and sometimes, admittedly, I'm guessing at what they are holding. Here's my evening on my second attempt at Crypto. You want to talk about $100 dollar days??? this is 2 1/2 hours. What a battle back.

Couple hands from the down slide.

Saw Villian push a set after being raised on the flop so thought I was good here.
CryptoLogic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K Heart

A

UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: K Diamond

T

5

($2.15, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1, Hero raises to $3, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 3 Heart

($8.15, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG+1 calls.

River: 6 Club

($14.15, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, UTG+1 raises to $8, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $30.15
UTG+1 shows Kc Td
Hero mucks Kh Ah

This just sucks. Had one right as AK but the other I figured missed flush draw not a straight draw.

CryptoLogic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 4 Heart

4

UTG folds, Hero calls, Button raises to $1.25, SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3 Spade

5

9

($4, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $3.5, SB calls, Hero raises to $10.5, Button calls all-in $3.83, SB calls.

Turn: 6 Diamond

($32.33, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $25.99, Sidepot 1: $6.34)
SB is all-in $1.47, Hero calls.

River: 8 Heart

($35.27, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $25.99, Sidepot 1: $9.28)

Results:
Final pot: $35.27
SB shows 6c 7d
Hero shows 4h 4d
Button shows Kh Ad

And the last bad beat, worst beat of all. Villian had been playing Suited crap for draws and big pots. I just didn't wait for the right spot. tried to extract the money instead of letting him lose it to me. Just greedy.

CryptoLogic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 9 Heart

T

UTG folds, Hero calls, SB raises to $0.75, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T Spade

6

7

($1.75, 2 players)
SB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $6, Hero calls.

Turn: 3 Heart

($13.75, 2 players)
SB bets $5.5, Hero raises all-in $19.35, SB calls.

River: 7 Diamond

($52.45, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $52.45)

Results:
Final pot: $52.45
Hero shows 9h Tc
SB shows Kh Kc

I'm sure your tired of hand histories but just for a chance to show a winner.

CryptoLogic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q Diamond

Q

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, CO calls.

Flop: J Diamond

7

9

($8.65, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $7, CO calls.

Turn: A Club

($22.65, 2 players)
CO is all-in $13.6, Hero calls.

River: 4 Club

($49.85, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.85)

Results:
Final pot: $49.85
CO shows 3s 3h
Hero shows Qd Qc

*Last edited by jyms on Mon, 20 Nov 2006, 11:12am; edited 2 times in total*

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I took the image out it was too large but left the link

Seriously, How's the setup. would anybody be able to suggest anything else that's necassary?

2 1600x1200 monitors would be nice.

I have 1 that does 1600x900, and 1 thats 1280x1024. If It doesn't come from the poker money, I can't get it. That's what the boss said. so as soon as it's feesable. My overlap is not that bad compared to some. They are on the list.

Does this mean I play too much poker

I've taken some serious beats in the last three days. Down 4+ buyins at $25NL. I need to slow down, play two tables instead of four. I have leaks, somewhere. Not sure where. I'm going to read NLHE T&P over the next few days. Maybe that'll point something out. Have some freinds from here talking me off the ledge, haha. Look at these stats and tell me if anything is glaringly obvious. Keep in mind, I'm trying to find some major problem, not some little minor edge that I can use. I'm losing at a consistant rate, at $25NL. This is my last 10k hands

I'm not sure if it's playing to aggressive with medium hands and going to showdown when they don't give it up. Or am I overvalueing my hand on certain boards? I really feel that I have not hit my share of sets. They are not getting paid for sure when I do. I sem to never hit them and when I have a rare shot with one there is a scare card that they all fold to. Or I get my ass handed to me by some straight chaser that catches. twice last night I bet hard with a set and the villian had flopped a straight. Just unlucky I know.

So a quick update. Haven't had time to post anything stats or hands wise. I only get to FTR (yes, I use it as a verb sometimes) at work lately. I'm 1/3 of the way thru NLHE T&P and have grinded my BR to $400 in Neteller and have $275 US on Poker Plex with $180 in monthly's to clear. I have found my groove at the $25NL on Crypto and am playing well. I am up and down a couple buy ins so far since moving to plex but it's working out well. I am basically playing to break even and not get stacked to often while clearing the bonuses. I blew off most of my $250 Bonus from Sun trying to clear the 1500 MPP's and left there with $350 after getting down to less than $120 from a $300 deposit.

I find if I play a little tighter and get out of bad situations early, it's an easy game. I may be leaving some value there but with the limited BR why play an even higher variance game. What I am finding is it's real hard to play some of these Loose Aggressives that really suck. I need more aggression in my game for sure, because they get me off of marginal, but winning, hands too often. What would be a good start for aggression stats at the $25NL and soon to be $50NL tables. I'm shooting for $50NL in the new year. I think it's easily doable if i'm not intimidated by some players. There is only one player at $25NL that's consistantly doing that, not from skills, but the horrific and luckbox style that is used. This girl has stacked me several times when I have almost certainly always got it all-in while ahead.

So far so good, mate.
Cool to see you're ready to break into $50NL... and it's a sick amount of poker you've been playing!

Good luck with the next few targets.

$50NL??????? Is the drive complete, or would you stay at $25NL and clear the monthlys at Poker Plex and Sun Poker first? If I take a shot, how big a shot do I take? I'm thinking 2 tables instead of 4 and get the feel maybe two tables of each. I've tried them on the weekends late and am at -$35 after 3K hands with fear for the $$$. Is that alot of rake for $25NL. I coulda played more. I ended up playing 30K+ hands of ring plus some tourneys at stars and Crypto in November.

In terms of experience, you should be ready for $50. I worry that your high-variance game might appreciate more of a cushion before you move up. Also, how come you're playing so much but not making more money? Are you cashing out? Or are you only a marginal winner? If it's the latter I think you need to make every effort to deal with your leaks - there's really no excuse to be making less than say 4BB/100 at $25.

Your absolutely right, High variance, no money. I have swings every seesion of $50 or $100 bucks. I need to really look at my game. I don't think it's something in the stats. Maybe I'll post my November numbers when I get home. My paker grapher looks like an obsticle course.

As for the move up, nope, got my ass handed to me on 3 hands. AA ran into quads, set into quads, and my A high flush got rivered by a boat, all for stacks. I need to find out what it is, and not those beats but the fact that alot of my bigger pots are for stacks. it's not uncommon for me to have 8 or more $25 pots in the win and loss columns over a 1K hand session.

Look at how often you are stacking off with TP/2p. Pull those hands and see if you could have got away from them.

I know without looking that one of my problems is playing TPTK too

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