A good time to fold AA

CARDSON

It's not only bad beats I'm getting with pocket aces. Here is one just showing piss poor play. Almost every hand you would raise pre flop was beating me here, yet I call all the way to the river..

I guess the frustration of the bad beats was getting to me. "Those pocket aces owed me a pot"

***** Hand History for Game 1362246376 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Wed Dec 29 04:39:46 EST 2004
Table Check and Mate (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Joffell ( $62.8)
Seat 2: TeinGuy ( $48.1)
Seat 3: sean204 ( $94.31)
Seat 4: Drunk_Mime ( $50.75)
Seat 5: mongchacha ( $40.5)
Seat 6: bphelon007 ( $151.7)
Seat 7: Boonaru ( $52.4)
Seat 8: leftyocto ( $50.12)
Seat 9: B00mdogger ( $238.77)
Boonaru posts small blind (0.5)
leftyocto posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ad, Ac ]
B00mdogger folds.
Joffell folds.
TeinGuy folds.
sean204 raises (4.5) to 4.5
Drunk_Mime folds.
mongchacha folds.
Boonaru raises (7.5) to 8
leftyocto folds.
sean204 calls (3.5)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kd, Qs, Qd ]
Boonaru bets (10)
sean204 calls (10)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
Boonaru checks.
sean204 bets (22)
Boonaru calls (22)
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
Boonaru checks.
sean204 bets (13)
Boonaru calls (12.4)
Boonaru is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $102.8 with Boonaru
** Summary **
Main Pot: $102.8 | Side Pot 1: $0.6 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Kd Qs Qd Ts 6c ]
Joffell balance $62.8, didn't bet (folded)
TeinGuy balance $48.1, didn't bet (folded)
sean204 balance $144.71, bet $53, collected $103.4, net +$50.4 [ Kh Ks ] [ a full house, Kings full of queens -- Kh,Ks,Kd,Qs,Qd ]
Drunk_Mime balance $50.75, didn't bet (folded)
mongchacha balance $40.5, didn't bet (folded)
bphelon007 balance $151.7, sits out
Boonaru balance $0, lost $52.4 [ Ad Ac ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- Ad,Ac,Kd,Qs,Qd ]
leftyocto balance $49.12, lost $1 (folded)
B00mdogger balance $238.77, didn't bet (folded)

AA hard to fold to many ppl.

touph luck man

Slow down after the smooth call on the flop.

CARDSON

AA really is my unlucky hand. Here I make a bad call on the river out of frustration...

I am below 30% with AA for my last 14 times I hit that hand when it goes to the river. I am 0-4 when I hit a set of aces or kings in my last week of play. It does not hurt that much now that I have been making an overall profit the last few days again..

This was an aggressive table, so I was hoping to call and then re-raise.

***** Hand History for Game 1367390913 *****
$50 NL Hold'em - Thursday, December 30, 13:21:23 EDT 2004
Table Icy cool (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: sean204 ( $90.75 )
Seat 3: chucky99999 ( $43.8 )
Seat 6: marcdl ( $97.64 )
Seat 8: gretzky111 ( $155.4 )
Seat 9: Boonaru ( $31.45 )
Seat 4: Comin4You ( $16.5 )
Seat 7: O_Neg ( $40.15 )
Seat 5: gettincards ( $15.5 )
Seat 10: kiiiia ( $62.3 )
Seat 1: hoopie4020 ( $49 )
O_Neg posts small blind [$0.5].
gretzky111 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ah As ]
Boonaru calls [$1].
hoopie4020 calls [$1].
sean204 folds.
chucky99999 calls [$1].
Comin4You folds.
gettincards folds.
marcdl calls [$1].
O_Neg calls [$0.5].
gretzky111 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, Ts, Ac ]
O_Neg checks.
gretzky111 checks.
>You have options at Lord of the table Table!.
Boonaru bets [$3].
hoopie4020 folds.
chucky99999 folds.
marcdl calls [$3].
O_Neg calls [$3].
gretzky111 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
O_Neg checks.
Boonaru bets [$4].
marcdl calls [$4].
O_Neg folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
Boonaru checks.
marcdl bets [$25].
Boonaru is all-In [$23.45]
marcdl shows [ 5h, Jh ] a straight, ten to ace.
Boonaru doesn't show [ Ah, As ] three of a kind, aces.
marcdl wins $1.55 from side pot #1 with a straight, ten to ace.
marcdl wins $66.9 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.

Ugh. Hardly ever is a huge overbet on the river a bluff. I made the same mistake of underbetting my set to lead people on on a scary flop. Big mistake.

Bet stronger on the flop and turn. Fold to the river. Also, don't post the results for less biased analysis.

-'rilla

CARDSON

Edit: cardson feature still doesn't work

I am just hoping AA will in some distant future become a profitable hand to play. At the moment I am losing so much with it that its almost absurd.

Can you guess the result of this one?

***** Hand History for Game 1371285271 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Fri Dec 31 08:38:53 EST 2004
Table Lord of the table (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: tenBBhr ( $32)
Seat 2: viktor939 ( $48.35)
Seat 3: kevin1245 ( $50.5)
Seat 4: Boonaru ( $37.9)
Seat 5: Skalman5 ( $50)
Seat 6: SLICK31 ( $25.25)
Seat 7: JustinKase21 ( $19.64)
Seat 8: Leatherwings ( $54)
Seat 9: le_peloton ( $48)
Seat 10: jarlaxle133 ( $119.5)
kevin1245 posts small blind (0.5)
Boonaru posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ad, Ah ]
SLICK31 folds.
JustinKase21 raises (4) to 4
Leatherwings calls (4)
le_peloton calls (4)
jarlaxle133 folds.
tenBBhr folds.
viktor939 calls (4)
kevin1245 folds.
Boonaru raises (36.9) to 37.9
Boonaru is all-In.
JustinKase21 calls (15.64)
JustinKase21 is all-In.
Leatherwings folds.
le_peloton folds.
viktor939 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $49.23 with JustinKase21
Creating Side Pot 1 with $18.26 with Boonaru
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, Kd, 7c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9s ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $49.23 | Side Pot 1: $18.26 | Rake: $2.55
Board: [ 9c Kd 7c Kc 9s ]
tenBBhr balance $32, didn't bet (folded)
viktor939 balance $44.35, lost $4 (folded)
kevin1245 balance $50, lost $0.5 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1371031910 *****
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0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Fri Dec 31 05:23:02 EST 2004
Table Addictive Callers (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: mega_dittos ( $96.35)
Seat 2: saleen03 ( $81.05)
Seat 4: bokykovy ( $38.6)
Seat 5: cardman98 ( $49)
Seat 6: KingBushido ( $50)
Seat 7: dabudabuda ( $76.95)
Seat 8: SF_Horn ( $51.05)
Seat 9: Boonaru ( $55.6)
Seat 10: machine0001 ( $59.6)
mega_dittos posts small blind (0.5)
saleen03 posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ks, Kd ]
bokykovy calls (1)
cardman98 folds.
KingBushido folds.
dabudabuda folds.
SF_Horn folds.
Boonaru raises (4) to 4
machine0001 folds.
mega_dittos raises (6.5) to 7
saleen03 folds.
bokykovy folds.
Boonaru raises (11) to 15
mega_dittos calls (8)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3s, 2d, 5d ]
mega_dittos checks.
Boonaru bets (20)
mega_dittos calls (20)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4s ]
mega_dittos checks.
Boonaru checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
mega_dittos checks.
Boonaru checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $69 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 3s 2d 5d 4s 6c ]
mega_dittos balance $95.85, bet $35, collected $34.5, lost -$0.5 [ Qs Kc ] [ a straight, two to six -- 6c,5d,4s,3s,2d ]
saleen03 balance $80.05, lost $1 (folded)
bokykovy balance $37.6, lost $1 (folded)
cardman98 balance $49, didn't bet (folded)
KingBushido balance $50, didn't bet (folded)
dabudabuda balance $76.95, didn't bet (folded)
SF_Horn balance $51.05, didn't bet (folded)
Boonaru balance $55.1, bet $35, collected $34.5, lost -$0.5 [ Ks Kd ] [ a straight, two to six -- 6c,5d,4s,3s,2d ]
machine0001 balance $59.6, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1371362667 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Fri Dec 31 09:34:31 EST 2004
Table Lord of the table (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Bohlicious ( $20)
Seat 2: viktor939 ( $54.5)
Seat 3: kevin1245 ( $56.1)
Seat 4: Boonaru ( $39.81)
Seat 5: Skalman5 ( $78.8)
Seat 6: eyedrawdead ( $0)
Seat 7: sassyx1004 ( $47.2)
Seat 8: Leatherwings ( $78.68)
Seat 9: fog14216 ( $95.4)
Seat 10: winmo ( $42.75)
Leatherwings posts small blind (0.5)
fog14216 posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Kh, Kd ]
winmo folds.
Bohlicious calls (1)
viktor939 folds.
kevin1245 raises (2) to 2
Boonaru raises (5) to 5
Skalman5 folds.
sassyx1004 folds.
Leatherwings folds.
fog14216 folds.
Bohlicious folds.
kevin1245 calls (3)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3s, 5d, 2c ]
kevin1245 checks.
Boonaru bets (8)
kevin1245 calls (8)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6c ]
kevin1245 checks.
Boonaru bets (10)
kevin1245 calls (10)
** Dealing River ** : [ Td ]
kevin1245 checks.
Boonaru bets (16.81)
Boonaru is all-In.
kevin1245 calls (16.81)
Creating Main Pot with $79.12 with Boonaru
** Summary **
Main Pot: $79.12 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ 3s 5d 2c 6c Td ]
Bohlicious balance $19, lost $1 (folded)
viktor939 balance $54.5, didn't bet (folded)
kevin1245 balance $95.41, bet $39.81, collected $79.12, net +$39.31 [ Th Ts ] [ three of a kind, tens -- Th,Ts,Td,6c,5d ]
Boonaru balance $0, lost $39.81 [ Kh Kd ] [ a pair of kings -- Kh,Kd,Td,6c,5d ]
Skalman5 balance $78.8, didn't bet (folded)
UltimateRush balance $50, sits out
sassyx1004 balance $47.2, didn't bet (folded)
Leatherwings balance $78.18, lost $0.5 (folded)
fog14216 balance $94.4, lost $1 (folded)
winmo balance $42.75, didn't bet (folded)

Lucky that I am a winning player with other cards than KK AA, otherwise I would have been dead broke long ago..

This is not funny anymore.. Its not getting any better instead worse. Over the last two weeks I have lost about 500$ playing KK, AA and my win % heads up with them has sunk to about 25%.

***** Hand History for Game 1375804606 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Jan 01 14:24:56 EST 2005
Table Goosebumps (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Boonaru ( $46.5)
Seat 2: Leatherwings ( $56.65)
Seat 3: samh133 ( $84.43)
Seat 4: udpokey ( $94.17)
Seat 5: PoopyPaws ( $68.2)
Seat 6: bizjet64 ( $21)
Seat 7: Joffell ( $50.25)
Seat 8: Pay2SeeMe ( $50)
Seat 9: coolmoney_1 ( $49)
Seat 10: Braves3324 ( $48)
Leatherwings posts small blind (0.5)
udpokey posts big blind (1)
Pay2SeeMe posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ As, Ad ]
PoopyPaws calls (1)
bizjet64 folds.
Joffell folds.
Pay2SeeMe checks.
coolmoney_1 folds.
Braves3324 calls (1)
Boonaru raises (4) to 4
Leatherwings folds.
udpokey folds.
PoopyPaws raises (6) to 7
Pay2SeeMe folds.
Braves3324 calls (6)
Boonaru raises (16) to 20
PoopyPaws folds.
Braves3324 calls (13)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ts, 8s, Qh ]
Braves3324 checks.
Boonaru bets (26.5)
Boonaru is all-In.
Braves3324 calls (26.5)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
Creating Main Pot with $99.5 with Boonaru
** Summary **
Main Pot: $99.5 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ Ts 8s Qh Jd Qd ]
Boonaru balance $0, lost $46.5 [ As Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- As,Ad,Qh,Qd,Jd ]
Leatherwings balance $56.15, lost $0.5 (folded)
samh133 balance $84.43, sits out
udpokey balance $93.17, lost $1 (folded)
PoopyPaws balance $61.2, lost $7 (folded)
bizjet64 balance $21, didn't bet (folded)
Joffell balance $50.25, didn't bet (folded)
Pay2SeeMe balance $49, lost $1 (folded)
coolmoney_1 balance $49, didn't bet (folded)
Braves3324 balance $101, bet $46.5, collected $99.5, net +$53 [ 8c 8d ] [ a full house, Eights full of queens -- Qh,Qd,8c,8d,8s ]

As soon as I win an all in with KK or AA I will post it here(hasnt happened in a very long time). If I stop losing almost all my money on these two hands I promise I will drop this uninteresting subject. Right now this is my biggest leak by far so I will keep on nagging a while longer.

***** Hand History for Game 1376472095 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Jan 01 17:19:27 EST 2005
Table Get Lucky (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: The_Carlos ( $59)
Seat 2: Boonaru ( $66.1)
Seat 3: IBluff72o ( $45)
Seat 4: SpongeBob_68 ( $118)
Seat 5: viktor939 ( $46.5)
Seat 6: SeanR87 ( $52.55)
Seat 7: GuzzleBeer ( $79.05)
Seat 8: Suited_YNot ( $50)
Seat 9: Danny415 ( $53.5)
Seat 10: brightair ( $48.9)
brightair posts small blind (0.5)
The_Carlos posts big blind (1)
Suited_YNot posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Kh, Kd ]
Boonaru calls (1)
IBluff72o folds.
SpongeBob_68 folds.
viktor939 raises (5.5) to 5.5
SeanR87 folds.
GuzzleBeer folds.
Suited_YNot folds.
Danny415 folds.
brightair folds.
The_Carlos folds.
Boonaru raises (9) to 10
viktor939 raises (24.5) to 30
Boonaru raises (56.1) to 66.1
Boonaru is all-In.
viktor939 calls (16.5)
viktor939 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $92.5 with viktor939
Creating Side Pot 1 with $19.6 with Boonaru
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, Qh, 2d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 8d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $92.5 | Side Pot 1: $19.6 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Td Qh 2d 7d 8d ]
The_Carlos balance $58, lost $1 (folded)
Boonaru balance $19.6, bet $66.1, collected $19.6, lost -$46.5 [ Kh Kd ] [ a flush, king high -- Kd,Td,8d,7d,2d ]
IBluff72o balance $45, didn't bet (folded)
SpongeBob_68 balance $118, didn't bet (folded)
viktor939 balance $92.5, bet $46.5, collected $92.5, net +$46 [ Ad Ah ] [ a flush, ace high with ace kicker -- Ad,Td,8d,7d,2d ]
SeanR87 balance $52.55, didn't bet (folded)
GuzzleBeer balance $79.05, didn't bet (folded)
Suited_YNot balance $49, lost $1 (folded)
Danny415 balance $53.5, didn't bet (folded)
brightair balance $48.4, lost $0.5 (folded)

As I said as soon as I win an all in with KK AA I will post it here. I am beginning to doubt it will ever happen again..

Here's the latest one clearly illustrating that every hand is far superior to KK AA heads up against me..

***** Hand History for Game 1379914414 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (PL) - Sun Jan 02 11:36:23 EST 2005
Table Ace High (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: BigBiskit ( $12)
Seat 2: h0bart ( $48)
Seat 3: Boonaru ( $56.96)
Seat 4: rollstreet ( $92.23)
Seat 5: racerem ( $9.04)
Seat 6: hinesgolf ( $46)
Seat 7: white7593 ( $36.55)
Seat 8: MLL2326 ( $57.25)
Seat 9: boogieboy ( $59.82)
Seat 10: GRUJAN ( $61.1)
boogieboy posts small blind (0.5)
GRUJAN posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Kd, Kc ]
BigBiskit folds.
h0bart folds.
Boonaru raises (3) to 3
rollstreet folds.
racerem raises (9.04) to 9.04
racerem is all-In.
hinesgolf folds.
white7593 folds.
MLL2326 calls (9.04)
boogieboy calls (8.54)
GRUJAN folds.
Boonaru raises (43.2) to 46.2
MLL2326 folds.
boogieboy folds.
Creating Main Pot with $35.31 with racerem
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2c, Js, 5s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $35.31 | Side Pot 1: $36.01 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 2c Js 5s 4s 6d ]
BigBiskit balance $12, didn't bet (folded)
h0bart balance $48, didn't bet (folded)
Boonaru balance $46.77, bet $46.2, collected $36.01, lost -$10.19 [ Kd Kc ] [ a pair of kings -- Kd,Kc,Js,6d,5s ]
rollstreet balance $92.23, didn't bet (folded)
racerem balance $35.31, bet $9.04, collected $35.31, net +$26.27 [ Jh 5c ] [ two pairs, jacks and fives -- Jh,Js,6d,5c,5s ]
hinesgolf balance $46, didn't bet (folded)
white7593 balance $36.55, didn't bet (folded)
MLL2326 balance $48.21, lost $9.04 (folded)
boogieboy balance $50.78, lost $9.04 (folded)
GRUJAN balance $60.1, lost $1 (folded)

Only way I can win with these hands is to fold evryone pre flop. All ins with these hands is charity.

You're just on a huge downswing. I recall SCGolfer having a similiarly fun time with his cards a little while back.

-'rilla

Either that or the poker gods have decided that he should take all the AA/KK bad beats for everyone on the forum.

I for one thank you Cocco.

- sed Rolling Eyes

I know it sounds crazy to think it would be rigged in any way, but the probability to get out drawn so many consecutive times with KK/AA is also tiny. I don't know what to believe anymore..

I cant believe it! AA actually held up!!

***** Hand History for Game 1381253709 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sun Jan 02 17:48:01 EST 2005
Table Necklace (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: Boonaru ( $55.9)
Seat 3: SJU104 ( $50)
Seat 4: tidel ( $63.1)
Seat 5: UPSMAN101 ( $38.4)
Seat 6: waltwally ( $47.5)
Seat 7: teleblaster ( $78.3)
Seat 8: polock61 ( $49.7)
Seat 9: bluebucks ( $84.5)
Seat 10: WhippetAnnie ( $50)
UPSMAN101 posts small blind (0.5)
teleblaster posts big blind (1)
WhippetAnnie posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Boonaru [ Ad, As ]
polock61 calls (1)
bluebucks folds.
WhippetAnnie checks.
Boonaru raises (5) to 5
UPSMAN101 raises (8.5) to 9
teleblaster folds.
polock

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