| Author |
Message |
|
Post rating: 
Posted: Sat, 23 Sep 2006, 11:33pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
these position stats are nuts.. my $$ is coming from unusual places.. button not working out too well. only 13k stats though
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 8:16am Post subject: |
|
|
One Pair
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Posts: 22
WPP: 150
|
|
Wow, those position stats look really weird to me. They seem to be just backwards of what someone would consider 'normal.' Mike Caro would probably say you're doing something wrong (remember his famous quote: "If God were looking down on a poker table, he'd see the money flowing toward the button"). On the otherhand, it's tough to argue with your results. Weird.
FWIW, my own position stats for both ring and tourneys are heavily biased toward the button and then fall off the earlier I get-- right up to the point where I lose money in the BB and SB. My poker mentor says that it's the stats of a normal winning player. His own stats (couple hundred thousand hands) are very similar.
Can someone explain to me what's going on with Terry and why he's winning?
-Mark "...acknowledged newbie..." |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 10:46am Post subject: |
|
|
Flush
Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 571
WPP: 65
Location: Sweden
|
|
| Bugeye wrote: | Wow, those position stats look really weird to me. They seem to be just backwards of what someone would consider 'normal.' Mike Caro would probably say you're doing something wrong (remember his famous quote: "If God were looking down on a poker table, he'd see the money flowing toward the button"). On the otherhand, it's tough to argue with your results. Weird.
FWIW, my own position stats for both ring and tourneys are heavily biased toward the button and then fall off the earlier I get-- right up to the point where I lose money in the BB and SB. My poker mentor says that it's the stats of a normal winning player. His own stats (couple hundred thousand hands) are very similar.
Can someone explain to me what's going on with Terry and why he's winning?
-Mark "...acknowledged newbie..." |
he hasn't got nearly enough hands to make position stats useful (1,5k hands at each position is nothing, really) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 10:50am Post subject: |
|
|
Flush
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 319
WPP: 142
Location: Connecticut
|
|
| TerryToma wrote: | these position stats are nuts.. my $$ is coming from unusual places.. button not working out too well. only 13k stats though
|
I actually disagree, they look right to me -- look at your vpip and pfr in the button compared to other positions, and now look at your W$SD: the places you're winning 50% or above you're far more successful (duh). This probably has more to do with say raising PPs in all positions, having more uniform raising requirements than "normal" in those positions, and that helps because clearly your button raises aren't getting a ton of respect, and if that's the case, you're not going to be able to take it down as often as you might normally. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 11:55am Post subject: |
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 3975
WPP: 106
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
|
|
| The graph is sick!! Nice run man, keep it up! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 2:41pm Post subject: |
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 3477
WPP: 51
|
|
| terry, i will be taking my life soon if you don't hit a downswing lol. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 10:08pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
| martindcx1e wrote: | | terry, i will be taking my life soon if you don't hit a downswing lol. |
Ok, i hit a downswing just for you. Ran into a set v my overpair, and flush v higher flush. Oh yeah called down without odds a couple of hands too  . Watching the WSOP on ESPN2 got me off my game a bit.
Now back to my normal style.
My current bankroll is $8037. Just cleared 100$ Bonus from hollywood, and made 12$ + Bonus.
check out
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=400161#400161
to join the discussion on my 15k hands at 100NL, and let me know your thoughts on a potential move up to 200NL.
graph on first page updated. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 10:20pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 976
WPP: 79
Location: New Zealand
|
|
Terry,
My stats are almost identical e.g. VPIP, PFR, c/bets, att to steal blinds etc. but my winrate is far lower than yours.
What do you think I could do to improve my winrate? Push or overbet the pot every time I believe I am ahead? I know this is not a Q&A but maybe I am missing something very obvious from my game?
P.S. And YES, I do believe that you should move up limits! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 10:26pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
| silu_nz wrote: | Terry,
My stats are almost identical e.g. VPIP, PFR, c/bets, att to steal blinds etc. but my winrate is far lower than yours.
What do you think I could do to improve my winrate? Push or overbet the pot every time I believe I am ahead? I know this is not a Q&A but maybe I am missing something very obvious from my game?
P.S. And YES, I do believe that you should move up limits! |
oh yeah, i dont mess around with a big hand.. i bet every time. i tried slow playing a set today in a limped pot (ugh i never do either), and i know i would have won a stack had i just raised preflop.. instead it was a 6way pot from sb with Q74.. people get curious as to what i have when i bet strong.. i dont mind if i win it right their either. i also bet my draws as well, but not raise. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 7:45am Post subject: |
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 3477
WPP: 51
|
|
| terry, do you bet your draws as heavy as your made hands? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 7:51am Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
| martindcx1e wrote: | | terry, do you bet your draws as heavy as your made hands? |
on the flop, yes. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 9:06pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
up 4.5 buyins today. still at 100NL clearing the monster 500$ 10x Bonus at PokerRoom. pretty crazy day, hitting a lot of gutshots and backdoor flushes. ran 24/10 (ugh). flopped a ton of straights, had a couple all in nut str8s with rivered fh, that happens though. i have 1550$ in PokerRoom right now, once i get that to 2k ill move up to 200NL for a test run. played a bit slaggy today.
i also played a cheap 5$ sit n go home game with some classmates. was quite fun. i played almost every flop and worked on my hand reading. the guys werent too bad of players at all.. had a lot of fun and made poker fresh again for me. it was getting a bit stale this afternoon. i have to keep myself thinking/engaged in every hand. it helps my reads, lets my subconscious work. if im passive and thinking about something else, my edge is gone and my play is -ev. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 9:15pm Post subject: |
|
|
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 5906
WPP: 73
|
|
| i hate you with a passion Terry... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 10:13pm Post subject: |
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 3477
WPP: 51
|
|
| i nominate terry for president |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 10:30pm Post subject: |
|
|
HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 5116
WPP: 73
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
|
|
| wait till you go a whole month without winning |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 10:35pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
| Renton wrote: | | wait till you go a whole month without winning |
ugh, no thanks. makes me not want to move up!  100NL is very steady right now. statements like that scare me because of your march to 10k was so fast and steady that it worries me a bit to see ..
i have been running very consistent.. i tend to push the limits of depositing a bit, for example i deposit $1k to $1.1k each reload, knowing i can put more $$ in from neteller if need be. luckily i havent had to redeposit more than once due to this. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 10:39pm Post subject: |
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 3477
WPP: 51
|
|
| Renton wrote: | | wait till you go a whole month without winning |
seriously, it seems like you're building up some bad bad karma man lol. hope it's not true though. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Tue, 26 Sep 2006, 8:50pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
watched the WSOP and was pumped to play the party Bonus, but once the adrenaline wore off i crashed mentally. not enough sleep lately. ended down 1.5 buyins.
i did add up my yearly total. its crazy how i was so pumped about 45$ in the first few months.
+15k for the year, most of which has come in the last 6 weeks. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Wed, 27 Sep 2006, 9:13pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
Welp nothing tilts me like a bad internet connection.
I donked off a couple of stacks vs real loose players. Also pushed all in KK vs AA, got sucked out all in on flop KKQ when i had AK. Definitely hitting a bit of a downswing, down 4 or 5 buyins in the last couple of days. Having pokeracehud and PokerTracker problems, wife out of town, behind on deadlines.. ugh.. i need to take some time off from poker at this point. Im basically even for the last 4 days, which is somethign im not quite used to heh.
Ill make sure to post the tilty hands so i can go over them and be accountable. I tend to play better when I keep everyone updated and also spend more time posting HHs, talking about hands. Otherwise im just playing on autopilot, which is -ev.
here ya go, tell me what you think of these hands, and how i should have played them.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=44180&highlight= |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Thu, 28 Sep 2006, 7:30pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
hey guys
i hit my head 2 days ago at work, most of these hands were since then. i have had some weird feelings/neurological symptoms and went to the ER. Head CT was normal, doctor diagnosed me with a concussion, so my brain is bruised/swollen. So playing idiot hands like this is a symptom of it. Im taking a few days off till i start thinking 100% again.
seriously.
but ill be ok, and should be back to normal in a few days. never had a concussion before. anyone have this before? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Thu, 28 Sep 2006, 7:47pm Post subject: |
|
|
4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 3047
WPP: 81
Location: calling
|
|
WORST EXCUSE EVER. It's ok to play some hands badly, everyone does it, even people on redonkulous 200 buy-in upswings. You don't have to go get a CT scan after every bad session
Seriously though, take care of yourself, and you'll be back killing 100NL in no time. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 8:45am Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
welp its been fun.
im cashing out until the dust settles. yeah i could continue to play for a while but my heart just isnt in it right now. i dont want to risk my earnings. the current 500$ Bonus at PokerRoom doesnt expire till around thanksgiving. so i have plenty of time later to play. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post rating:
Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 8:54pm Post subject: |
|
|
Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Posts: 809
WPP: 72
Location: wisconsin
|
|
|
