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MNMP2
Post Posted: Mon, 02 Oct 2006, 10:19pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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A private consortium just made a bid to buy up Harrah's. Harrah's stock went up something like $9 a share today.

If a private company could take over Harrah's, then they could be a candidate to purchase any of the poker sites out there and re-introduce that operation to the US customers. They could push for proper regulation of the industry.

One of the reasons this bill passed is the casino lobby. Both the Nevada senators (one Dem, one Repub) said they would vote YES on this bill if it came to a vote. They are in the casino company's pockets, believe me.

So now if these casino companies can get involved in online poker, they will do so and they will have the political clout to get whatever legislation passed they need to open it back up to US customers.
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bearcats05
Post Posted: Tue, 03 Oct 2006, 1:10pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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so when is bush going to officially sign this?
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Post Posted: Tue, 03 Oct 2006, 2:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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this lady FUCKIN ROX

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nb1pzayqPaI
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Post Posted: Tue, 03 Oct 2006, 2:12pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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MiJ wrote:
this lady FUCKIN ROX

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nb1pzayqPaI


Partison bullshit from the other side.
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thenonsequitur
Post Posted: Tue, 03 Oct 2006, 2:16pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I like this guy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6b7_h_OyTI0

I definitely wouldn't call this partisan bullshit.

I think this is from an old proposal on internet gambling prohibition, but it applies here too.
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Greedo017
Post Posted: Tue, 03 Oct 2006, 9:57pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I have a question about party. on the popup screen for the VIP promotion it says

"( This includes points redeemed by you till 03-OCT-2006 12:00:01 ET)"

is there any reason it says until today at noon, or am i missing some reason why it would include that time?
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Greedo017
Post Posted: Wed, 04 Oct 2006, 10:10am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i have something else too. This is a link to a conservative forum. i don't belong there, i was just googling for "bush sign ban" to see if anywhere speculated when he'd sign it, and it came up. they think the ban is crap also.

http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=110505
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Post Posted: Wed, 04 Oct 2006, 11:03am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Greedo017 wrote:
i have something else too. This is a link to a conservative forum. i don't belong there, i was just googling for "bush sign ban" to see if anywhere speculated when he'd sign it, and it came up. they think the ban is crap also.

http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=110505

good to see
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Wed, 04 Oct 2006, 5:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Xianti wrote:
"But Cabot said the measure exempts state-licensed casinos, which could conduct online poker or casino-style wagering within their states once authorized to do so - and also could link up with other states or even foreign jurisdictions where such gambling isn't prohibited."

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2006/oct/04/100410086.html


I'd just like to say wow..... this sounds like really good news to me.
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martindcx1e
Post Posted: Wed, 04 Oct 2006, 8:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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just went to pokerlistings and noticed that they don't have PokerStars listed under the rooms that are open to US citizens. wonder why? they didn't say that yet right?

http://www.pokerlistings.com/
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Xianti
Post Posted: Wed, 04 Oct 2006, 8:36pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
But who will mod the mods?!
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PokerStars has not made an official statement yet.

The only thing we have to go on right now is Lee Jones posting at 2+2 that they are continuing with business as usual until further notice.

Keep checking our list:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/poker-44471.htm

I will make sure it's updated with all the latest. If you don't see a poker room in that list, it's because they have not announced anything either way.
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martindcx1e
Post Posted: Wed, 04 Oct 2006, 8:46pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Xianti wrote:
PokerStars has not made an official statement yet.

The only thing we have to go on right now is Lee Jones posting at 2+2 that they are continuing with business as usual until further notice.

Keep checking our list:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/poker-44471.htm

I will make sure it's updated with all the latest. If you don't see a poker room in that list, it's because they have not announced anything either way.

thanks. i guess maybe that list is for rooms that have stated that they won't ban Americans no matter what.
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Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 6:43am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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martindcx1e wrote:

thanks. i guess maybe that list is for rooms that have stated that they won't ban Americans no matter what.

That can't possibly be true.
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martindcx1e
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 9:23am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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IowaSkinsFan wrote:
martindcx1e wrote:

thanks. i guess maybe that list is for rooms that have stated that they won't ban Americans no matter what.

That can't possibly be true.

what and why? there are rooms who have stated that they will not be banning americans
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coolhandluke
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 12:06pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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All the rooms that say they are not goona ban americans have not said that for sure they all say we are looking at it and we think they cant do this. key word being (THINK)
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Xianti
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 12:13pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
But who will mod the mods?!
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A sign of how the sites pulling out of the U.S. may be implementing the blocks...

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=44583

Stay alert and updated here:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/poker-44471.htm

In this case with CelebPoker, they are giving U.S. accounts a brief window to cash out, then even withdrawals are blocked.
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martindcx1e
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 12:40pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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why on earth would sites block withdrawals and block players from even playing when neither breaks any laws?
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Xianti
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 12:55pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
But who will mod the mods?!
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martindcx1e wrote:
why on earth would sites block withdrawals and block players from even playing when neither breaks any laws?


Some insight from Bugsys Club:

In my opinion the public companies really have little choice. They have to somehow protect the investors. If they blatantly ignore this situation the investors and markets may not be too pleased. In our case we only have to satisfy our customers, and that is exactly what we intend doing.

Luck Bugsy


Source:
http://www.BugsysClub.com/club/community/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4339
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martindcx1e
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 1:20pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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so investors would get nervous even if the sites are doing nothing wrong? sounds like some pretty lame investors.
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Phantaroth
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 2:03pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If you play on Titan Poker they are about to stop serving US customers.

Check the news thread for the actual text.

You can still withdraw your money.

Whoops. Srry.


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Xianti
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 2:15pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
But who will mod the mods?!
But who will mod the mods?!

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You guys, I'd already reported on CelebPoker (Boss Media Network) and TitanPoker (iPoker Network) pulling out of U.S. a couple days ago. Please bookmark this page:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/poker-44471.htm

...and stay updated.
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Warpe
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 2:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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martindcx1e wrote:
so investors would get nervous even if the sites are doing nothing wrong? sounds like some pretty lame investors.


A publicly traded company's first responsibility is to its shareholders and to protect shareholder value. The capital markets hate uncertainty, so it is more prudent for Party and the like to pull out of the US temporarily and possibly permanently until they know what business environment they may or may not be able to operate in in the future.
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Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 2:57pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Warpe wrote:
martindcx1e wrote:
so investors would get nervous even if the sites are doing nothing wrong? sounds like some pretty lame investors.


A publicly traded company's first responsibility is to its shareholders and to protect shareholder value. The capital markets hate uncertainty, so it is more prudent for Party and the like to pull out of the US temporarily and possibly permanently until they know what business environment they may or may not be able to operate in in the future.

i don't know anything really about stocks/investors/etc. but it just sounds like investors are pretty flaky and quick to jump to conclusions after hearing all this.
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Xianti
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Oct 2006, 2:59pm    Post subject: