horrible beat, did i play it right? (bonus poll)

Ok, im playing with 4 of my friends at a home game, they all play some poker but dont really read up on it or anything, but thx to FTR i feel i have the slight edge on them.

Anyways, im dealing, i get dealt AA, so naturally im thinking raise pre-flop (im a believer in fast-playing AA/KK), we all have around 2500 chips (beginning of a nice $50 tourney)... blinds are 10/20, and i raise 100 preflop. 2 callers.

Flop comes Ac Ad 3d.... JUICE! i hit my 3rd best hand of my life! They both check, I bet 50 chips, trying to milk all that i can out of everyone. One calls, one re-raises 200... free money, i call, other person folds, heads up now.

Turn is 6s, no help to me nor most likely none to him. He still bets 300 chips. By now im thinking bluff, what could he possibly have, not an ace, i have all 4! I re-raise 300, he calls. River comes 5d. He checks, i bet 500, he re-raises all in... what the hell does he have? i call, im not laying down quads, he shows 2d 4d for a straight flush!

when i asked him after the tourney why he called a raise preflop with 2 4 suited, he said cause "he likes that hand, and i didnt raise enough preflop"... whats your take on this? really really bad beat, or could i have done something differently (raise more pre-flop)? i wanted to milk what i could out of them though...

PS: his all in put me down to 230 chips, but i ended up coming back to get 2nd place (won $100), so it didnt hurt me much in the long run... str8 flush guy got 4th (outta 5).

while normally it's a bad idea to slowplay AA, you did well by raising preflop and slowplaying postflop.

if they were playing normal poker the only hand you can put them on is a full house, calling preflop raises with pocket pairs have huge implied odds when you hit your set.

given that he shouldn't even have played 24s, i don't think you can lay that down, you beat too many hands.

well the good thing is, something like this can happen only once every 3 years.

too bad you weren't on Party Poker at the bad beat jackpots.

I would never lay down 4 Aces in that situation either. I think hands like that are the reason they made bad beat jackpots. He might have went all-in like that with a flush or straight too. If you would have layed it down, some people might say it was a great lay down. But, if you're not gonna play 4 Aces, what kind of hands are you going to wait for to play. I think you played fine, you just got beat by an unnatural act from the poker gods. To me, I think it was a strange bet he made on the turn betting 300 with a board of Ac Ad 3d 6s, when he had 2d 4d against someone who raised 5x the bb preflop.

He had a flush draw and a 1 card straight draw. Betting there was weird, but I've seen aggressive players do it. However, hitting his money card was pure luck (as you know). You played it well and he got as lucky as anyone ever gets playing hold 'em.

thats what I figured, im just glad i didnt go on tilt, i posted/folded for about 5 min while i went to the bathroom, then came back and acted like nothing happened Wink

I woulda come back from the bathroom with bandaged knuckles and told the host he needed a new mirror.

that is just sick, I don't think I would have laid it down, you hit quad As one of the top hands you'll actually see in your life time of poker, so lets see there is only one hand that and beat you and that's the S8trflush but why would someone typically call a raise preflop with a couple suited rags, I know I wouldn't, him playing 24s against a big pocket pair is just straight gambling, that's not playing poker lol. Playing 24s because you like the hand is bad poker imo... just think of the odds that that happens, I think the odds of him having a hand like that if the player plays typically is so slim that it's almost an auto call for me.

1 hand beats you and it's very unlikely that he's playing it.

Had you folded this hand, we would have hazed you.

And last time I checked tar, tequilla and a live rabbid squirrel don't usually make for a fun afternoon...

-'rilla

I said "maybe" in the survey.

However, in your specific situation, there's no way out...good job getting ITM.

Oooooh Yaaaaah. We haven't hazed you yet, either. Twisted Evil

*cackles gleefully*

-'rilla

woot! someone else has experienced the same thing...this happend to me in champs when I was playing a freeroll a couple o months ago, I was up against the chip leader and he had 35s or 24s, something like that, and he rivered his 2c to beat my quads

. I was very happy about it and on the bubble to Razz

Gotta love poker

Oh and good call, I would have never folded in your position

-anto

Yeah I voted for fold.

I mean quad aces really isnt that powerful a hand, any straight flush or royal flush can beat it. Here four cards are out for the royal flush, now what would the other player be staying in the hand with? I would guess he had that royal flush.

Besides, 10 players * 1 card / 52 cards = 64% chance that someone has the card. If you multiply the fact that he is still in the hand and betting at you, its closer to a 95% chance.

Why lose money? Just fold.

Wow I bet you wish you were playing this hand at an online jackpot table. Although I think some places require both opponents used both hole cards. If not, this would definitely qualify and you would have made a killing....lol, making much more than even the winner of the hand!l

NEVER!

The only scenario where I am folding (betting dependant)

Preflop: I raise 3BB and get his only call with TdTs.

Flop: I check to check raise (I wouldn't.) And he checks behind.

Turn: MHIG, check. Check.

River: Ugh, I'm beat by one card. Check. AI.

Pot is small and he wouldn't check the set on the flop or on the turn since he can extract real value from an ace and the nut flush. And he shouldn't be bluffing at such a small pot.

But I'm never putting myself in that position. My pot will be larger and the river AI will be smaller. I will force the 10s to fold or make very bad calls. I may pay him off this one time on the river, but i'll be making out like a bandit in the long run if he misses his river or is cracking off a bluff with a very, VERY scary board.

Don't be controlled by the board.
That's the novice's job.

-'rilla

Wow it is not even close to the same situation as holding the king high flush when an ace high flush could be out there. You have quad aces. Im sorry let me say that again. QUAD ACES! Yes you could be up against a str8 flush, but you dominate every other possible hand and 9/10 times in this situation you still hold the winner. Im gonna have to agree with rilla that anyone who folds this hand is.....WEEEAAAKK....either grow a set or stop playing poker right now, this game is not for you.

Also, the ace/king 4 flush analogy is close but not an exact match. The ace will draw for the flush knowing that he has many outs to do it. He'll most likely play his hand like a draw and the scenario will more often (compared to this RF draw) end in his favor. So you would need to be more dilligent in reading his ace and not paying it off. It will also be easier to read by comparisson.

This, however, is a one card draw. It would take some wierd betting to allow for this draw.

-'rilla

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