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Posted: Sun, 06 Aug 2006, 8:11pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3412 WPP: 71
Location: over there
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Yeah I've considered that but I think I'd be too bored.
Which bit don't you like? |
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Posted: Sun, 06 Aug 2006, 8:37pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 29 Nov 2004
Posts: 1254 WPP: 83
Location: Sweden
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You seem to have a solid basic game. I think you just need to get more adept at smallball play and be able to id profitable re-raise and steal situations mostly from accurate hand reading. It all adds up. This might be easier if you cut down a few tables.
In your situation I would move down to build back confidense.
Good luck man. |
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Posted: Mon, 07 Aug 2006, 1:48am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3412 WPP: 71
Location: over there
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Another squeeze play I messed up. This guy knew I was squeezing. I knew he knew I was squeezing. Should have been an easy flop c/f.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP ($512.17)
CO ($177)
Button ($290.05)
Hero ($198)
BB ($312.70)
UTG ($200)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 , 4 . Hero posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, Hero (poster) raises to $29, 1 fold, MP calls $22, Button calls $22.
Flop: ($92) T , 5 , 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $70, MP raises to $140, Button folds, Here raises AI (~$150), MP calls $28.
Turn: ($330) Q (2 players)
River: ($330) 9 (2 players)
Final Pot: $330
Results: MP wins with 77.
Good play by him. He knew exactly what I was up to. |
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Posted: Mon, 07 Aug 2006, 1:56am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3412 WPP: 71
Location: over there
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Just finished up a 3200 hand 200NL session where I lost nearly 1.5k$. I feel like I played really well but I just got sucked out on all over the place. Seriously it was nuts.
I'm gonna try to play more later on. My sleep scedule is all messed up at the moment so it's hard to coincide my play with the times that party is softest. It's amazing how 200NL is so much more difficult during peak hours. I just played an hour at a tough table there (where that hand above came from) where I hardly saw a flop without getting reraised. It was crazy. Good practice for 400NL though I feel, plus it was fun and challenging. |
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Posted: Mon, 07 Aug 2006, 1:58am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3412 WPP: 71
Location: over there
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| Cocco_Bill wrote: | You seem to have a solid basic game. I think you just need to get more adept at smallball play and be able to id profitable re-raise and steal situations mostly from accurate hand reading. It all adds up. This might be easier if you cut down a few tables.
In your situation I would move down to build back confidense.
Good luck man. |
Thanks. |
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Posted: Mon, 07 Aug 2006, 7:04am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3412 WPP: 71
Location: over there
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Played a few hore hands. I'm now down $2000 at 200NL in 2 days. 95% just from pure variance, I think I've made about 2 idiotic mistakes. If I include my losses at 400NL earlier on, it appears I have had my first -$8000 week. My BR feels like it has been pretty much decimated. Down to nearly 8k now. Things better start turning around pretty soon.
Here's a hand I just played that I thought was cool. Villian is semi-loose TAG. Had squeezed me a few time so I decided I was going to play back on a safeish flop. Worst flop possible comes out. Luckily his weak cbet signified to me that he was scared of the ace himself so I pounced all over him.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($115.85)
SB ($406.80)
BB ($197)
Hero ($421.65)
MP ($281.75)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , Q . SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, SB (poster) raises to $34, 1 fold, Hero calls $27, Button folds.
Flop: ($80) A , 2 , 5 (2 players)
SB bets $30, Hero raises to $100, SB folds.
Final Pot: $210 |
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Posted: Mon, 07 Aug 2006, 12:17pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3412 WPP: 71
Location: over there
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Cool hand but I dunno why. Didn't think he would check the turn with an A so I deduced that he was on a bure bluff and called. He flipped 68.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($200)
UTG ($200)
MP ($380.84)
Hero ($197)
Button ($202.70)
SB ($392.15)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , A . SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $7, Button calls $7, 2 folds.
Flop: ($24) 6 , T , 5 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $16, Button calls $16, UTG folds.
Turn: ($56) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.
River: ($56) J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $53.2, Hero calls $53.20.
Final Pot: $162.40 |
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Posted: Tue, 08 Aug 2006, 11:41pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3412 WPP: 71
Location: over there
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| At this point I am about to move down to 100NL. My confidence is shot to pieces. I play every hand just waiting for them to raise me, 3bet me, call my cbet, draw out on me and do a million other things which cause me to lose more money by no fault of my own. In the last 20k hands my bankroll which was, at it's height, $18,000, has been cut in half in just over a week. At this point I'm seriously considering withdrawing what I have left online ($7000) and saying goodbye to the poker world. I never thought it would come to this. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 12:01am Post subject:
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Straight

Joined: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 236 WPP: 95
Location: in a van by the river
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| start Bonus whoring again |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 1:31am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS

Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7812 WPP: 51
Location: trying to live
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| Irisheyes wrote: | | At this point I am about to move down to 100NL. My confidence is shot to pieces. I play every hand just waiting for them to raise me, 3bet me, call my cbet, draw out on me and do a million other things which cause me to lose more money by no fault of my own. In the last 20k hands my bankroll which was, at it's height, $18,000, has been cut in half in just over a week. At this point I'm seriously considering withdrawing what I have left online ($7000) and saying goodbye to the poker world. I never thought it would come to this. | quitting poker? downswings suck and all but you are still good at poker. hell, you even made a good laydown against my AA a few days ago. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 2:39am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 2753 WPP: 83
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| If I was you I'd withdraw $5500 and start afresh at 50NL with $1500. Playing poker with lowered confidence is murderous for the BR.. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 4:10am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3412 WPP: 71
Location: over there
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Thanks guys. The support helps alot.
I just played 4 hours of 100NL and made 1k. Maybe I'm out. Who knows I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm gonna go get some breakfast and go back to playing 200NL.
These are the first, second and last bad beat hands I will ever post (and only because they are kinda funny). This is the kinda stuff that really gets to me. I make a good read, play a hand well and still I can't take pots. I know I'm sounding like a whiney bitch right now. This is the last of it I promise.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
SB ($99)
BB ($190.61)
UTG ($266.04)
MP ($179.65)
Hero ($162.15)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 , 9 . SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BB raises to $10, MP folds, Hero raises to $35, BB calls $24.
Flop: ($71.50) 6 , 7 , 4 (2 players)
BB bets $65, Hero is All-in $127.15, BB calls $62.15.
Turn: ($198.65) Q (2 players)
River: ($198.65) A (2 players)
Final Pot: $198.65
Results in white below:
BB has Jd Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has 7s 9s (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: BB wins $198.65.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
CO ($90)
Button ($401.31)
SB ($223.14)
BB ($195.10)
UTG ($52.05)
Hero ($100.40)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 , A . SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button raises to $8, SB (poster) calls $7.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.
Flop: ($25) 6 , 8 , 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, Button raises to $32, SB folds, Hero is AI $76.4, Button calls $60.40.
Turn: ($133.40) 6 (2 players)
River: ($133.40) J (2 players)
Final Pot: $133.40
Results in white below:
Hero has 8s As (two pair, eights and sixes).
Button has 7s 6d (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: Button wins $133.40.
OK I'm done venting. Back to losing huge ammounts of money. Thanks for listening guys. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 5:18am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 15 Mar 2005
Posts: 1109 WPP: 137
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Welcome to my world  |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 6:10am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4221 WPP: 114
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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You can't quit poker, it's impossible. I withdrew my bankroll a couple months back to fund my business. I put on $200 2 weeks ago and now I'm trucking (or trying to rather) back up there. If you're anything like me, you can't quit. You will find your way back.
I've never played the stakes you play (my highest was shots at 200nl) and I've never even come close to losing 8k in a week, so take it fwiw... but stick with it man. I like the thread, and you seem solid.
Perhaps you should take a week or so off? You said you want to quit, I think time off will help this. I didn't play one single hand for 1.5 months or so (minus some gauntlet games) and I wanted to play sooo bad when I returned. It was refreshing when I started again.
Just relax for a few days, get drunk, get laid, don't think about poker at all. I think it will really help you.
GL! |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 9:32am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3412 WPP: 71
Location: over there
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| givememyleg wrote: | You can't quit poker, it's impossible. I withdrew my bankroll a couple months back to fund my business. I put on $200 2 weeks ago and now I'm trucking (or trying to rather) back up there. If you're anything like me, you can't quit. You will find your way back.
I've never played the stakes you play (my highest was shots at 200nl) and I've never even come close to losing 8k in a week, so take it fwiw... but stick with it man. I like the thread, and you seem solid.
Perhaps you should take a week or so off? You said you want to quit, I think time off will help this. I didn't play one single hand for 1.5 months or so (minus some gauntlet games) and I wanted to play sooo bad when I returned. It was refreshing when I started again.
Just relax for a few days, get drunk, get laid, don't think about poker at all. I think it will really help you.
GL! |
Yeah you're probably right it would be impossible. I guess I'll just stick at it. I don't wan't to take a break because I know I won't be happy with myself if I don't beat this think. Taking a break means I let it get the best of me and that doesn't sit well with my personality or something.
Pwning 100NL for a few thousand hands helped me. At least I know I can beat that!
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Here's more crazy lag shit which shows that moves like this can work even at 100NL if you pick the exact right guys:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($98)
SB ($117.55)
Hero ($142.35)
UTG ($133.10)
MP ($220.23)
Preflop: Hero is BB with T , 6 . SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP raises to $3, 1 fold, SB (poster) raises to $11.5, Hero raises to $39, MP folds, SB folds.
Final Pot: $55 |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 11:35am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 1109 WPP: 96
Location: Kokkedal, Denmark
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Irisheyes, you are a good player. Dont quit poker. I would suggest taking a break, doesnt need to be more than 2 days. When you get back start at NL100 and play pretty straightforward, and try focusing on fixing all your leaks (you know things like "calling down to much", "bluffing to much" etc). Write it down on a piece of paper and reread it everytime you start a session (thats what I do). Because besides running bad you are probably playing poorer than usual (a kind of "semitilt" due to running bad, the kind of tilt that is really hard to detect), and in that case you really need to step back a moment before starting to play again.
I would suggest staying at NL100 until you can beat it for a healthy WR over a larger samplesize - 10PTBB/100 is possible at NL100 if you practise good table selection, I've done over 10PTBB/100 over 25K hands at this level and I'm by no means a good player. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 3:44pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 01 Sep 2005
Posts: 2186 WPP: 80
Location: donkaments weeeeeeeeeeee
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Pwn 200NL, improve your play, fix leaks, win $, and move back up. Taking a break for a few days seems +EV too. gl, you know you're good enough.
PM sent btw. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Aug 2006, 11:07pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 1637 WPP: 57
Location: Looking for my anima
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Cheers for the explanations.
I really don't think you should be quitting poker, I've required a couple of explanations, because being a micro-limit ABC semi-nit myself, your stuff reads pretty crazy. Very interesting to watch though. I reckon you should move down to $100NL, and burn some lame ABC123 tight-passives. Or even 50NL, where you'd run wild. Also look at the money. You'll earn more a week 8-tabling 50NL than someone who's spending their summer break stacking shelves in a shitty florescent-lighted supermarket. |
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Posted: Fri, 11 Aug 2006, 8:29am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 1523 WPP: 113
Location: Downswinging holla!
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Quit while you still have the chance!
Jk dude, we both know you're very talented and you have great work ethic in poker, those two things will make you very successful. Keep it up. |
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