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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 1:29pm Post subject: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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4-of-a-Kind
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1. Maintain somehwere between a 15-25% vpip and 7-15% PFR.
2. Raise lots of hands in late position and fewer hands in early position.
3. Reraise 1010-AA+ AQ,AK Preflop.
4. 3/4 pot at least 85% of flops when checked too.
5. Fold to a raise on the flop if you dont have a super read and you dont have at least Aces. (2pair+ = at least aces)
6. Raise/Reraise 2 Pair+sets+ combo draws on flop.
7. In a raised pot ifyou can beat Aces you have the nuts.
8. Dont make big laydowns. By the time you can actually think about making a big laydown you are getting too good of a price at the pot to fold.(I.E dont fold sets)
Ok now you can go make at least 100k a year just knowing that. |
Last edited by ilikeaces86 on Fri, 15 Sep 2006, 1:49am; edited 3 times in total
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 1:42pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Looks good. I raise and reraise more hands though. I like losing respect at 6max. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 1:43pm Post subject:
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Straight
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 1:53pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Rondavu wrote: | | Looks good. I raise and reraise more hands though. I like losing respect at 6max. |
Yes Yes this is fine. I am just saying if you just do this you can still make 100k a year playing poker online. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 2:02pm Post subject:
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Full House
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So, there'll be a moneyback guarantee, right?
Guys?
Right? |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 2:04pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| ya dude you get all the money you paid aces for this guide back |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 2:17pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| how bout simple guide for full ring? or is full ring uncool? |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 3:30pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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i think #7 should be changed to "if you beat aces in a raised pot"
its bad advice in unraised pots |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 3:57pm Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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| ilikeaces86 wrote: | | 1. Maintain somehwere between a 15-25% vpip and 7-15% PFR. |
So limp like 40% of the time you are in? Limp early, raise late? |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 3:59pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| martindcx1e wrote: | | how bout simple guide for full ring? or is full ring uncool? |
Same thing but lower your VPIP to 15% and your PFR to 8% and your good to go. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 4:07pm Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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Straight Flush
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| ilikeaces86 wrote: | 1. Maintain somehwere between a 15-25% vpip and 7-15% PFR.
2. Raise lots of hands in late position and fewer hands in early position.
3. Reraise 1010-AA+ AQ,AK Preflop.
4. 3/4 pot at least 85% of flops when checked too.
5. Fold to a raise on the flop if you dont have a super read and you dont have at least Aces. (2pair+ = at least aces)
6. Raise/Reraise 2 Pair+sets+ combo draws on flop.
7. If you can beat Aces you have the nuts.
8. Dont make big laydowns. By the time you can actually think about making a big laydown you are getting too good of a price at the pot to fold.(I.E dont fold sets)
Ok now you can go make at least 100k a year just knowing that. |
to do a gabe and paraphrase this.
| Renton wrote: |
Make sets
get paid.
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 7:12pm Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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4-of-a-Kind
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| ilikeaces86 wrote: |
4. 3/4 pot at least 85% of flops when checked too. |
I think this could be a huge leak at low stakes. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 7:22pm Post subject:
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
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ilikeaces, what is your variance like at 3/6?
its seems to be pretty bad for gabe |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 7:48pm Post subject:
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| Renton wrote: | ilikeaces, what is your variance like at 3/6?
its seems to be pretty bad for gabe |
Pretty low variance |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 8:19pm Post subject:
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
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| i would imagine that gabes style is higher variance/winrate than that of yours |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 8:22pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
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| Gabe goes ai alot cuz he wants that money in his account! |
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Posted: Fri, 25 Aug 2006, 1:18am Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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Full House
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| Miffed22001 wrote: |
to do a gabe and paraphrase this.
| Renton wrote: |
Make sets
get paid.
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My new strategy is better:
Make Quads.
Stack Renton.
It's the ultimate  |
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Posted: Fri, 25 Aug 2006, 8:41am Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Irisheyes wrote: | | ilikeaces86 wrote: |
4. 3/4 pot at least 85% of flops when checked too. |
I think this could be a huge leak at low stakes. |
Nope, it isn't, I can assure you. Well, maybe at $10 where you have 4+ people seeing the flop, but if you bet and isolate PF like you're supposed to you'll be fine. |
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Posted: Fri, 25 Aug 2006, 11:42am Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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| ilikeaces86 wrote: | 1. Maintain somehwere between a 15-25% vpip and 7-15% PFR.
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. ???
6. ???
7. ???
8. ???
9. Profit
Ok now you can go make at least 100k a year just knowing that. | |
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Posted: Fri, 25 Aug 2006, 12:15pm Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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| a500lbgorilla wrote: | | ilikeaces86 wrote: |
1. Get dealt AA
2. Profit
standard ilikeaces86 | |
FYP |
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Posted: Fri, 25 Aug 2006, 12:19pm Post subject:
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ilikeaces just aims to break-even in the 10-20 hand stretches between the hands where he has AA. Then profit strikes.
When he doesn't get AA for more than 20 hands, that is called a downswing. |
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Posted: Sun, 27 Aug 2006, 7:35pm Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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| ilikeaces86 wrote: | | a500lbgorilla wrote: | | ilikeaces86 wrote: |
1. Get dealt AA
2. Profit
standard ilikeaces86 | |
FYP |
its the ??????? that make it quality. |
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Posted: Sun, 27 Aug 2006, 7:45pm Post subject:
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Full House
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Thanks for the advise ilikeaces86. I am glad that my stats look good but are at the higher end of 25/10. Funny enough my PFR at Full Tilt is only 7 (for some reason I can't make a buck there) and at Poker Stars its 12 (creaming the $25NL 6-max).
I almost always bet 1/2-3/4 of the pot if checked to and it only happens rarely someone c/r or calls. That usually happens in 3+ multiway pots but against 2 opp it works a treat hence raise pre-flop!! |
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Posted: Sun, 27 Aug 2006, 10:57pm Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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| biondino wrote: | | Irisheyes wrote: | | ilikeaces86 wrote: |
4. 3/4 pot at least 85% of flops when checked too. |
I think this could be a huge leak at low stakes. |
Nope, it isn't, I can assure you. Well, maybe at $10 where you have 4+ people seeing the flop, but if you bet and isolate PF like you're supposed to you'll be fine. |
I have to say this is wrong - I have been playing the PL25 tables at Holdem Poker and you cannot GET people out preflop or on the flop - I'll be in the BB with KK, 5 people will limp (or even raise) and after I pot it for $5+, I still get 4-5 callers - Its ridonkulous...That never happened at Full Tilt, so I think it depends on the site...But you cannot get people to fold preflop at Holdem...So i'm going to have to agree with Irish and quote the old saying "you can't bluff a calling station" - I learned this the hard way after a few nights of my usual somewhat "tricky" play and they just kept calling and calling and calling - Nice thing is when i've got a monster, im getting paid - I think where players are aware, yeah, you definitely want to bet when you've got that much weakness...But against calling stations that doesn't work - I only use it at Full Tilt so people see me as playing lots of hands and then they try to "trap me", but it's easy to spot them....anyway, depending on the site, you can't just try to run over them - The only reason im betting with nothing is to keep my image looser so people don't get out of the way when i hit -
excellent 6 max advice, for sure aces - Thanks |
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Posted: Mon, 28 Aug 2006, 7:19am Post subject:
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PL is totally different for god knows what reason - it's like the fact you can't bet more than the pot is a licence to call any pre-flop or flop bet.
At 25NL it by and large works, and when it doesn't - there'll be tables when it doesn't, maybe 25% of them - you'll quickly realise it. |
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Posted: Mon, 28 Aug 2006, 10:23am Post subject:
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| well, i didn't want to segregate the PL because the PL tables at 25/25 hit $10-13 avg pots over there on 75% of the tables...$40 - $70 pots are not uncommon. So despite the lack of being able to get all in right from the go, they manage to get all in a lot...the pot avg. is much higher than 90% of the 25NL tables i've played at/seen (except late saturday nights - so it doesn't seem different than NL to me - |
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Posted: Mon, 28 Aug 2006, 12:08pm Post subject: Re: ilikeaces86 simple way to beat 6max NL
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| ilikeaces86 wrote: | | 1. Maintain somehwere between a 15-25% vpip and 7-15% PFR. | I'm trying to learn 6 max. What is your starting hand range in order to reach around the top part of this vp$p? Of that starting hand range, what ones are you raising to reach your PFR range? And how much are you raising PF? Also is your raise consistant across your starting hand range (the ones your raising), or is it different depending on the hand? |
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Posted: Mon, 28 Aug 2006, 3:38pm Post subject:
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| This is for 3/6 I guess? I'm pretty sure following these rules exactly combined with a little bit of hand reading skills should enable people to beat some 5/10 games as well, but not all of them. Very good post btw, now I gotta find a way to maximize profits against someone who plays exactly like this:) |
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