Comments: Renton's 169 hand SS-NLHE ring strat: Postflop II

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very nice

Thanks Renton, It must have taken alot of time out of your playing schedule and that can't be easy or +EV, but greatly appreciated. They are my new bible. When I have a BR I will donate to the cause.LOL

This guy doesn't know shit about shit. I am going to make an article that blows Renton's article away.

Haha, just kidding.

Good post, I was waiting for it. That condensed and informative way of writing (typical scenarios for most hands) cleared up some concepts I was trying to solve (when to go for checkraise on turn - for example) and I got much more confidence in my game because I play similar way.

Also good to see that 100NL is beatable with fairly straightforward style, I can't wait when I will be rolled to try it on higher stakes. I guess THAT is the solid tight-AGGRESSIVE (not nitty, not maniacal, not stupid but true smart aggressive) way. Isn't it?

100nl is not really tricky at all. It IS the first stake where you will find regulars though.

I need to get my lazy ass around to read these 3 guides.

i mean regulars that beat the game

I really liked the Draw section. Please write a "don't make stupid river calls" section next kthx.

sorry I posted this in the sticky by accident (why aren't they locked???)

Renton, you touch on something here that I have been wondering about alot since playing more positional and opening my hand requirements under certain conditions.

Its a complicated issue. Basically, you have to rate your villain. If he's a bad player who gives away his hands on the flop, then its hugely +EV to call a PSB on the flop with an OESD. You stand to win a stack if you hit, its that simple. However, against a tough player, you need to throw pot odds even further out the window and represent a made hand by raising the flop, or you should just fold. Don't be afraid to fold the flop against players like this.

It sucks to be making breakeven EV plays with suited connectors after the flop. because we took the worst of it preflop. Something has to give, and we need to make up that lost EV.

Thanks for this series Renton. I have tried at times to emulate a lot of your style at 25NL. I was wondering your thoughts on how you would play different at the lower 25NL stakes, than you currently do.

For example, KQo/AKo have been bad hands for me recently, as the c-bets get called down too much, and when I do hit I face a tough choice on whether to keep going deep with TPGK/TPTK.

Also, I would like to know more about why you raise PP's PF. Is it to build a pot when you hit your set? Or to take it down on a C-bet. Or are these not mutually exclusive?

Very nice, Renton, To think I was once sat at a $25NL table with you (you doubled up and left). I am particularly impressed by your tactics for making the most money on a winning hand - this is the area I feel I'm weakest so I'll be studying this carefully.

Do you have any specific advice about adjusting these tactics for $25 or $50 games? For example, there are fewer re-raises and a lot of weak players who fold often more easily than one would like - how can you maximise pots against these players?

"WSOP 2007 - 24th place ($567,350) - Barrington Rentonsworth IV busts out of the main event when his audacious check raise push with top boat is beaten by a runner runner straight flush from Zairean pro Asoolb Gorilla"

Renton wrote: "Eighth Scenario: A tight aggressive player raises to 7 in MP and you call on the button with AQs. The flop is AQ4 rainbow.

Don’t get too excited. The flop might as well have been A74. You only beat one more hand in villains range by having two pair (AK). Just play it like you’d play TPTK, and this includes folding it in spots you’d fold TPTK. "

Can someone explain to me the meaning why the floop might as well have been A74? I thought flopping a two pair of such high ranking is pretty powerful compared to other two pairs. It would be pretty hard to laydown such a two pair for me.

Thanks.

I kinda brought that up as a poor example. The point was, the fact that you have two pair makes little difference, because you'd probably win a lot of money from hands like AT and AJ, which you'd have ordinarily beaten on an A74 flop.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

9,900 games 0.015 secs 660,000 games/sec

Board: As Qc 7d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 69.1010 % 68.90% 00.20% { AcQd }
Hand 2: 30.8990 % 30.70% 00.20% { AA, QQ, AKs, AKo }

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

12,870 games 0.005 secs 2,574,000 games/sec

Board: As Qc 7d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 57.0241 % 56.87% 00.16% { AcQd }
Hand 2: 42.9759 % 42.82% 00.16% { AA, QQ, 77, AKs, AKo }

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

18,810 games 0.016 secs 1,175,625 games/sec

Board: As Qc 7d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 67.8841 % 67.65% 00.23% { AcQd }
Hand 2: 32.1159 % 31.88% 00.23% { AA, QQ, 77, AKs, A7s, AKo, A7o }

Looking good eh?

eXcellent article. thanx Cool

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