Comments: Renton's 169 hand SS-NLHE ring strat: Preflop

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nh sir

The bit about implied odds is golden, very nicely explained!

One thing I'd like to add though.. if you're facing a loose preflop raiser, the implied odds thing changes a bit. Let's say you call his PFR with 22 every time, looking for a set. If however, more than half the time, he is raising stuff like 79s, then you don't have that much implied odds at all. So if you're letting him push you off your hand on the flop every time you don't hit your set, and when you do set up.. most of the time all you take down is his cbet.. then this is a -EV confrontation for you.

Thoughts?

Great Post!!!
love the title

How the hell did ya find the time while playing 8 $200NL tables and all the other extra curriculars. Great job.

Great article. This is much appreciated for someone making the switch from SnG's to ring.

The bit about implied odds is the clearest explanation i have found.

nh

Top stuff Renton!

Sticky worthy even

I must say this is a great post, very informative and nicely written. Renton, you're one whose posts I always look out for so it's nice to get an insight into your playing style. Smile

I'll still be a jackass, don't worry.

Wow! That's all I can say after reading Renton's post and implementing his strategies into my game. I have learned the importance of a unstructured game. I have learned the importance of focusing on the PROCESS and not the RESULT. I have discipline.

I highly recommend Renton's 169 hand strategy to anyone struggling with their game, in need of fixing leaks, or even if you haven't played a hand of poker in your life.

Renton is A-ok in my book.

I liked the post, it was really well thought out and articulated. the problem is, there are many preflop strategy guides around. they are everywhere, but preflop is such a small portion of a cash game (as opposed to SNG). some postflop strategy, though harder to write coherently, would probably be much more useful.

although I wanted to add that you should clarify how many limpers it takes for you to classify them as limpers. I found that if i completely ignored the fact that there was just one limper in the pot when it got to me, it really allowed me to play more hands more aggressively, which led to more money. whereas with 3 or more i would only raise value, 2 being a grey area dependent upon the type of players that have limped.

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RENTON PAY BACK UR DEBT TO MANNERBOY NOW

alright, in all seriousness, I just skimmed through your post. Looks good. Havn't read it in detail though, but I definately plan on doing that when I have some more time.

Very nice in total.

I do have a question

MP (2-5th to act preflop)- Raise 99+, AJs+, AQo+, KQs like UTG but add a few more hands. As the chance that you will have position after the flop increases (as you get closer to the button), it becomes more profitable to add in KQo and AJo, and in 5th position I would probably even raise KJs and ATs. Limp all the other pairs. If there is a raise in front from a standard player (for our purposes from now on a “standard player” raises 10% of his hands and has a vpip of 20%), just call with AQs, 99, TT, and JJ, and muck AJ, AQ, and KQ and all other pairs. When you are second or third to act with AA, KK, QQ, or AK you should almost always reraise to isolate. The last thing you want is to call his raise and then have three callers behind you. A five way pot with AA sucks, and it is the reason most people get stacked with AA too much.
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Why do you fold all pairs here. If the standard player is full stacked, you are getting your 15x. Plus you may get callers behind you if you call with your small pair out of MP. When you hit your set with 3 to 4 people seeing the flop, isnt that what we want.

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Lukie

Fantastic post Renton!

Could you or someone else please clarify 2 questions I have...

1. Assuming SS (as mentioned in your title) is short stacked - what are you buying in for and what is your reasoning. I have read various discussions on short stacks v full buy-ins and weight of argument often goes to buying in full.

2. Any chance you could elaborate on your suited connectors play. I have yet to find a winning way to play them...

Cheers, PW

Renton: Excellent post. Would your 6-max strategy just start at LP?

Thanks.

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