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Post Posted: Mon, 15 May 2006, 1:37am    Post subject: Renton comments Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Mon, 15 May 2006, 6:47am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Do you have a link to your old one? I'd love to read through it because I'm hoping to follow in your footsteps. I did a search but couldn't find anything. Thanks and I'm looking forward to reading about your progress.
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Post Posted: Mon, 15 May 2006, 11:12am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Renton, you are obviously the poster boy for smartly (keeping within the BR) FLYING up in stakes. Making $9k (or more by now) in about 2 1/2 months... phenomenal man, I hope to learn a lot from your continued adventure.

I'm a huge donk, so that's probably the reason for the confusion... but I was rather curious about the 22-hand you posted.. I realize that the board is scary... but a couple of things...

1. This guy has $81 to start the hand.. how did he get there? You didn't mention any reads on this guy that I could see...

2. So are you assuming he's sitting on 98s, or 87s? A8?... I understand the concern of him having that card, but I'm finding it difficult (other than the suited connector hands) to put him on an 8 here.

3. He pushes ~$45 into a pot of ~$85, so you are getting almost 3:1 on your call, right?

4. You mentioned he wouldn't push a flush into a double-paired board, but like you said you're set is nearly invisible... it looks like you are playing a big pair or over cards to most people... (with the c-bet and check behind on the turn, probably just over cards)

I'm guessin he had AQs, or AJs... but I play retard limits so I'd like to hear more about this....

Thanks!
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Do you have a link to your old one? I'd love to read through it because I'm hoping to follow in your footsteps. I did a search but couldn't find anything. Thanks and I'm looking forward to reading about your progress.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34788&highlight=renton
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34995&highlight=renton
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31562&highlight=renton
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29884&highlight=renton

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Post Posted: Mon, 15 May 2006, 2:25pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Renton, you are obviously the poster boy for smartly (keeping within the BR) FLYING up in stakes. Making $9k (or more by now) in about 2 1/2 months... phenomenal man, I hope to learn a lot from your continued adventure.

I'm a huge donk, so that's probably the reason for the confusion... but I was rather curious about the 22-hand you posted.. I realize that the board is scary... but a couple of things...

1. This guy has $81 to start the hand.. how did he get there? You didn't mention any reads on this guy that I could see...

2. So are you assuming he's sitting on 98s, or 87s? A8?... I understand the concern of him having that card, but I'm finding it difficult (other than the suited connector hands) to put him on an 8 here.

3. He pushes ~$45 into a pot of ~$85, so you are getting almost 3:1 on your call, right?

4. You mentioned he wouldn't push a flush into a double-paired board, but like you said you're set is nearly invisible... it looks like you are playing a big pair or over cards to most people... (with the c-bet and check behind on the turn, probably just over cards)

I'm guessin he had AQs, or AJs... but I play retard limits so I'd like to hear more about this....

Thanks!


he had just sat with like 90 or 100 dollars and he was a loose passive player. Whenever passive players get that uppity postflop they have top boat a lot. He probably puts me on an overpair, and if he beats an overpair he beats 22.

Calling that bet on the end would be like calling someones all in with 22 preflop and hoping you have his A2 dominated. Nope.
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Post Posted: Mon, 15 May 2006, 4:03pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Again, stupid questions, but I'm just trying to learn...

Renton wrote:
Whenever passive players get that uppity postflop they have top boat a lot.


Calling the flop, checking the turn, and pushing the river, counts as uppity? He seems pretty passive until after you show weakness on the turn.

Renton wrote:
He probably puts me on an overpair, and if he beats an overpair he beats 22.


This just isn't true... I think he has the flush which bows down to your bottom boat, but yet still beats your over pair.

Thanks for the insight...
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 May 2006, 4:34pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 May 2006, 5:29pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Dudes, I just updated my sweet blog.


Howzabout putting a linky in your sig. kthx.
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Post Posted: Wed, 21 Jun 2006, 2:16pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Running bad sux Renton. Hang in there. You will prob lose much less than most ppl during this bad run. I don't think anybody worries too much bout you Wink... it'll turn around.

Oh and I'm no expert but I wouldn't worry too much bout the "flattening" of your br graph. You said it yourself a long time ago about 30-40k sequences of hands not being representative of larger-scale progressions.

If your solid forum input and most of your hh posted are at all representative of your overall play, you are def not a break-even player Smile. Plus, seems like you are on a 6-max downswing which is typically more brutal than full ring (u know obv...).

Try not to get down. Go chop some wood or something. Putting a bad-beat on an inanimate object can only be a good thing.
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Post Posted: Thu, 22 Jun 2006, 2:14am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Mon, 26 Jun 2006, 11:43am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Very insightful man, thanks for the posts, couple of quick questions...

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***** Hand History for Game 4573101906 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, June 22, 21:23:40 ET 2006
Table Table 96045 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: Beoupe ( $534.29 )
Seat 5: themaniac11 ( $288.60 )
Seat 7: Beelzeboz0 ( $224.40 )
Seat 4: Pavel55 ( $295.56 )
Seat 10: FishEKat ( $284.05 )
Seat 9: FoosLoose1 ( $321.35 )
Seat 6: dogg16 ( $102.20 )
Seat 2: Autarchy ( $96.70 )
Seat 1: wrong_button ( $223.25 )
Seat 8: James_casley ( $36 )
Pavel55 posts small blind [$1].
themaniac11 posts big blind [$2].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Beelzeboz0 [ 2d 2s ]

dogg16 calls [$2].
Beelzeboz0 calls [$2].
James_casley calls [$2].
FishEKat folds.
wrong_button folds.
Autarchy folds.
Beoupe folds.
Pavel55 raises [$14].
themaniac11 folds.
dogg16 folds.
Beelzeboz0 calls [$13].
James_casley folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 9s, 9c ]

Pavel55 bets [$35].
Beelzeboz0 calls [$35].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]

Pavel55 checks.
Beelzeboz0 bets [$70].
Pavel55 calls [$70].

** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]

Pavel55 checks.
Beelzeboz0 is all-In.
Pavel55 folds.
Beelzeboz0 does not show cards.
Beelzeboz0 wins $347.40


This seems like an interesting line here. Is this simply putting the villain on overs or a draw (smelling weakness), or representing the flush... or what? I'd appreciate a little more info on this if you could offer some.

Quote:
***** Hand History for Game 4572836696 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, June 22, 20:46:47 ET 2006
Table Table 95721 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: Spildo711 ( $471.06 )
Seat 7: Tran50 ( $86.35 )
Seat 10: King4484 ( $198 )
Seat 3: Beelzeboz0 ( $200 )
Seat 1: skylar28 ( $370.05 )
Seat 8: joe113111 ( $59.45 )
Seat 9: gmoney1156 ( $253.05 )
Seat 5: bburtts43 ( $240.50 )
Seat 4: bighapapapa ( $198.05 )
Seat 2: dreamcrushed ( $196 )
bburtts43 posts small blind [$1].
Spildo711 posts big blind [$2].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Beelzeboz0 [ 3d Ad ]

Tran50 folds.
joe113111 folds.
gmoney1156 folds.
King4484 folds.
skylar28 folds.
dreamcrushed raises [$4].
Beelzeboz0 calls [$4].
bighapapapa folds.
bburtts43 calls [$3].
Spildo711 calls [$2].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 5h, Td ]

bburtts43 checks.
Spildo711 checks.
dreamcrushed bets [$10].
Beelzeboz0 calls [$10].
bburtts43 folds.
Spildo711 folds.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]

dreamcrushed bets [$30].
Beelzeboz0 raises [$95].
dreamcrushed folds.
Beelzeboz0 does not show cards.
Beelzeboz0 wins $158


So this is quite different from the last hand in that you have 11 good outs. Just checking the line for my own interest... PF: very obvious call with Axs here.. to a weak raise w/ position. Flop: pick up our flush draw and call a $10 into $26 pot... Is the call here due to action behind you? (vs. a raise representing strength on our draw?)

On a substantial check-raise here from the blinds, are you done with the hand? What type of pot odds/implied odds are we looking for if the action gets hot on the flop?

Turn: What are you putting the opponent on here? (probably caught some pair or has small pkt pair?)... what hand are you representing? (any two pair or TP might have villain beat, eh?) Is this the time to get aggressive w/ the draw now that it's HU? (I always like to be aggressive w/ my nut draws... and this seems delayed, is due to the action behind or something else that I'm not seeing?)

Great stuff man, tks!
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Post Posted: Mon, 26 Jun 2006, 12:10pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hand 1

Villain is pretty tight, and known to make weak laydowns from time to time. I have like 2k hands logged with him.

I call the flop because I figure the chance is reasonable that my hand is good. When he checks/calls the turn I am almost certain that he has an overpair. The river is the perfect bluff card. Even idiots won't call with AA there. He was getting pretty compelling pot odds though, so it wasn't the least dangerous of bluffs.

Hand 2

I am not sure what villain had here. He was a 20/10 and seemed somewhat solid. If this read was accurate then the 4 dollar raise preflop was a pot sweetner bet for a drawing hand like JTs.

JT would fit the action after that. He bet small into a multiway pot for information. I just call. The board is drawy so he immediately puts me on a draw and bets more on the turn because he figures he's ahead and is protecting his hand. I stick in a raise because I have 12, probably 15 outs so I was about 30% to win. I figure fold equity + implied odds make this a good raise.

If he calls this raise and i hit, I win a stack. If he calls this raise and I miss, I fold the turn and preserve the majority of my stack, or maybe bluff all in if he checks one more time (but probably not).

As far as the delay goes I really liked how I did this. The "standard" play with a draw and a weak flop bet is to raise it and take a free card on the turn if necessary. Raise or checkraise flop, lead the turn. I think that if you invert it it looks more like a made hand than a draw. The line I took in this hand is how the majority of players play sets. So if you invert how you play sets and draws, with the way the average player plays sets and draws, you'll maximise EV on your bluffs and on your value raises.
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I just wanted everyone to know that I own, and also to thank all of the FTR members that contributed to my rise to power.


thats all



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Renton wrote:
I just wanted everyone to know that I own, and also to thank all of the FTR members that contributed to my rise to power.


thats all


Very nice hands. I need to learn a lot from your post flop play (especially turn/river). AK and KQ have been killing me lately, great job getting AI with worse hands in those situations.

PS, college kids are starting to go back to school. As long as the senate doesnt screw it up, I think we will all have a good few months.
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hey renton what limits / sites you been playing on mostly?? by the HH forum it seems you are all over the place.

are you still pretty much playing by your preflop/post I&II or have you learned a few extra tricks?
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hey renton what limits / sites you been playing on mostly?? by the HH forum it seems you are all over the place.

are you still pretty much playing by your preflop/post I&II or have you learned a few extra tricks?


I am playing primarily 400nl full ring on party (9-12 tables). I play 25nl full ring sometimes on my roommates acct, to help him learn the game. I occasionally blow off steam playing ultra lag on 100nl 6 max and below. On soft party friday nights I will play 600nl full ring sometimes.

Today I dove into 400nl 6 max and I think I might play 10 or 20k hands of that for a change of pace.
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Good luck renton.

I think its a good idea for you to build your BR to 10k before trying out NL200 again. Thats actually the same plan I'm playing after. I want to have loads of buyins for NL200 and I want to plug more leaks while I'm still playing NL100. I've had trouble with NL200 every danm time I've tried to move up (3 times now), mostly due to bad beats and me tilting after those beats. Also, NL100 is ridiculously easy to beat
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Robert wrote:
I've had trouble with NL200 every danm time I've tried to move up (3 times now)


We should start a club. I think I've finally managed to make 200nl stick but I long for the days of crushing 100nl.
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Robert wrote:
I've had trouble with NL200 every danm time I've tried to move up (3 times now)


We should start a club. I think I've finally managed to make 200nl stick but I long for the days of crushing 100nl.


Me failing in succesfully moving up several times has resulted in a confidence issue in regards to beating NL200. I know that the level of play is still soft, but I dont have the confidence right now to beat it, so I'll wait to I have a ton of buyins (at least 10k) so I can comfortably loose a couple of buyins without tilting.
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Psychologically, as the stakes go up it takes a while before losing 100+bb to a suckout isn't a big deal anymore, but now I just think of gabe losing $18K in one hand and laughing about it to put my bad beats in perspective.
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