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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 4:31am Post subject: $27 62s :)
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Full House
Joined: 25 May 2005
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WPP: 79
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Gotta love minraise pot odds. I'd had some grief about this whole hand with someone, but I absolutely love every street, lol.
Pre-flop: 20 into 150 makes a call
Flop: It is early and I have no reads, I don't wanna commit too many chips with 62s early and try and muscle this pot out with a huge semi-bluff, but I do wanna get some free cards. Check/min-raise does this as effectively cheap as possible I say.
Turn: Hit my flush, but it's low so I bet it out.
River: Don't quite fear a boat here, but Kings just made kings up and jacks just made trips so an AI overbet here works.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR Hand History Converter
CO (t1500)
Button (t1490)
SB (t1420)
daluchy (t1500)
UTG (t1610)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1480)
MP3 (t1500)
Preflop: daluchy is BB with 6 , 2.
2 folds, MP1 raises to t40, MP2 calls t40, 1 fold, CO calls t40, 2 folds, daluchy calls t20.
Flop: (t170) J, K, 6 (4 players)
daluchy checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets t60, CO folds, daluchy raises to t120, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t60.
Turn: (t410) 7 (2 players)
daluchy bets t250, MP2 calls t250.
River: (t910) J (2 players)
daluchy bets t1090 (All-In), MP2 calls t1070 (All-In).
Final Pot: t3070 |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 10:30am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 10:40am Post subject:
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Season VII
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
Posts: 2456
WPP: 100
Location: HotLanta
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Did you want him to fold to your bet on the turn or were you just giving him incorrect odds to chase a hand?
With how he played this I could see him turing over Ad Jx |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 10:45am Post subject: Re: $27 62s :)
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 5251
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Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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| daluchy wrote: | | Gotta love minraise pot odds. |
| daluchy wrote: | | MP2 bets t60, CO folds, daluchy raises to t120 |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 10:56am Post subject:
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
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Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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| The free card play works better with position. |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 10:57am Post subject: Re: $27 62s :)
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Season VII
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
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Location: HotLanta
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| Renton wrote: | | daluchy wrote: | | Gotta love minraise pot odds. |
| daluchy wrote: | | MP2 bets t60, CO folds, daluchy raises to t120 |
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I guess he likes to give what he receives. |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 1:30pm Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage
Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 2452
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Location: xianti made me do it
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| Fnord wrote: | | The free card play works better with position. |
Yes. |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 1:58pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 May 2005
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| I'm the one chasing, he's the one ahead (most likely). I don't care if he get odds for whatever from my minraise, I'm trying to hit a hand as cheaply as possible. |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 2:01pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 May 2005
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| GatorJH wrote: | Did you want him to fold to your bet on the turn or were you just giving him incorrect odds to chase a hand?
With how he played this I could see him turing over Ad Jx |
Little of both, probably more bad odds. Only thing that kills me probably is another diamond so I'm ok if that drops on the river if he calls that bet.
| Fnord wrote: | | The free card play works better with position. |
Yeah, so I went with a check/minraise to kinda make up for that. It's a weird play to make him uncomfy. A bigger raise could work here too, (I'd definately do that in position), but I wanted the wtf is he doing? effect to help out my bad position, lol...if that makes sense... |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 3:02pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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| daluchy wrote: | | I went with a check/minraise. It's a weird play to make him uncomfy. A bigger raise could work here too, (I'd definately do that in position), but I wanted the wtf is he doing? effect to help out my bad position, lol...if that makes sense... |
Doesn't make much sense. This is a changeup you use to balance with made flops against thinking players. Making a habit of it is -EV. |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 5:02pm Post subject:
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Full House
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Yeah, exactly. Thank you.
When I go play a $27 I figure almost everyone is a thinking player so I devise crap up like this when I can to give myself an edge.
But yeah all the time at any buy-in, this isn't good. This is a donktastic play at lower levels I'm sure, hehe. |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 5:21pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 1063
WPP: 166
Location: Germany
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| daluchy wrote: | Yeah, exactly. Thank you.
When I go play a $27 I figure almost everyone is a thinking player so I devise crap up like this when I can to give myself an edge.
But yeah all the time at any buy-in, this isn't good. This is a donktastic play at lower levels I'm sure, hehe. |
So, you can do these kinda at the 27's? But dont attempt this at the 5's? Why do you confuse people like me? lol . |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 7:14pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6786
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| Quote: | | When I go play a $27 I figure almost everyone is a thinking player |
POTD
tell me this was a joke |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 8:05pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 28 Jun 2005
Posts: 285
WPP: 96
Location: Germany
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| drmcboy wrote: | | Quote: | | When I go play a $27 I figure almost everyone is a thinking player |
POTD
tell me this was a joke |
If you're used to playing something like the 11's, the players at the 27s can seem pretty damn good.
Edit: They still won't all be "thinking players," but there will be a smaller concentration of total idiots ( the kind that call your PFR with J2 because it was sooted). |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 8:26pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
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recognize that 27s are WELL within range of people who put 300-500 on every couple months, up down go bust, deposit again, repeat.
No one who is any good stays below 50 for.... I'll say 6 months - unless they don't want to move up. and most people want to move up. mutlitablers are excluded here too, but they aren't doing a whole lot of thinking either. |
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