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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 8:36pm Post subject: bluff with my baby |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 8:41pm Post subject: |
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Season II

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Location: MI
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| Next time you post one of these, can you post the following hand as well so I can see what kind of colorful explicitives your opponets utter? |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 8:46pm Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 9:33pm Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 10:14pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 11 Feb 2004
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Location: lemonade was a popular drink and it still is
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You forgot to cite Fnord for the "counting your chips" line.
Maniacal as always. Good on ya, man. |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 10:45pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 20 Apr 2004
Posts: 726 WPP: 278
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| rippy how often do you get busted out making these retarded plays, sure it may work the odd time, and those are all well and great, but you just seem maniacal, and it will catch up with you sooner or later, if it hasnt already. |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 10:54pm Post subject: |
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Royal Flush

Joined: 12 Dec 2003
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Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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| gutshot wrote: | You forgot to cite Fnord for the "counting your chips" line.
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That line is far older than the first time I typed it on the boards and from a different origin. |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 11:46pm Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 12:23am Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 12:29am Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 12:32am Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 12:48am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 20 Apr 2004
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| hahah gotta love the sarcastic remarks, im not gonna get into it with ya, you know what i think of you and your play, glad its workin out for ya |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 3:16am Post subject: |
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Royal Flush

Joined: 12 Dec 2003
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Some food for thought...
o We're only gettting a small window into Rippy's play. Without the entire picture it's hard to gauge how big of a mistake he's making and how often.
o Without a full history, it'd difficult to judge how successful he is. I'm pretty sold he's a winning player, but what's his win-rate compared to more ABC players in the long term? Once would expect these kind of plays to send variance through the roof, hence streaky results. But what's this doing to his win-rate, which is where it really matters?
o The payout structure in many of these tournies is such that consistant performance in the middle of the pack is not rewarded.
o There are a fair amount of situations where any 2 will do or can't be a big mistake. Many players just can't seem to pull the trigger in those situations.
o Rippy is boarder-line manical, but he's not predictably manical and can fold to an obvious trap. This makes him difficult to trap and light-years above some of the chimp manaics that play these.
o If he's setting up a situation where the other players don't feel they can profitably steal from him, he could be trading -EV in a hand or two for a little +EV over lots of subsequent hands. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 6:57am Post subject: |
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Full House

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| Fnord wrote: |
o There are a fair amount of situations where any 2 will do or can't be a big mistake. Many players just can't seem to pull the trigger in those situations.
o Rippy is boarder-line manical, but he's not predictably manical and can fold to an obvious trap. This makes him difficult to trap and light-years above some of the chimp manaics that play these.
o If he's setting up a situation where the other players don't feel they can profitably steal from him, he could be trading -EV in a hand or two for a little +EV over lots of subsequent hands. |
Seems to me those 3 about sums it up. Sometimes you have to bully in order to prevent being bullied.
It is odd that you can win the SD on so many all-ins with the rags. Normally to win with rags consistently, you need to see the flop and push people off their draws or call with your good odds (ala Gus Hansen).
I would like to know some more about your win-rate, average finish %, ITM%, ect. Just for comparison with us straight-forward players.
BTW nice run |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 9:31am Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 9:48am Post subject: |
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Royal Flush

Joined: 12 Dec 2003
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Gee... being called by AJo really hurt his EV...
200 antes
200 BB
635 * 2
1670 total in the pot
9s 5h 35% = 585
As Jd 65% = 1085
net - 50 chips (2x the ante)
Well worth the table image from busting some poor sucker with Dolly Parton offsuit. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 9:56am Post subject: |
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Royal Flush

Joined: 12 Dec 2003
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| SteveDonel wrote: |
It is odd that you can win the SD on so many all-ins with the rags. Normally to win with rags consistently, you need to see the flop and push people off their draws or call with your good odds (ala Gus Hansen).
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Not really, if you know the math.
Unless you're wired up bigger than one or both of my 2 cards or we share a card (domination/destruction), he should win these all-ins more than 1 out of every 3 times. Being connected and/or suited further increases the expected win rate. In a way, you're better off pusing with 65s than K6s, because another hand with a 6 or 5 is unlikely to call sparing you from domination. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 10:36am Post subject: |
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But who will mod the mods?!

Joined: 04 Dec 2003
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Again, Rippy, as with just about all of your hand histories, the tactics demonstrated are unique to TOURNAMENT play. Please post them in the appropriate forum.
{Moved from Hold'em Hand Histories} |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 10:40am Post subject: |
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But who will mod the mods?!

Joined: 04 Dec 2003
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| Fnord wrote: | | o Rippy is boarder-line manical, but he's not predictably manical and can fold to an obvious trap. This makes him difficult to trap and light-years above some of the chimp manaics that play these. |
This is the nicest thing that Fnord has said about Rippy! At least, as far as I can recall. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 10:59am Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 12:36pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 20 Apr 2004
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| fnord i agree with alot of your points on his play, i just think he makes stupid decisions at stupid times, I have watched rippy in alot of tourneys and watch him bust out, and i just think to myslef what the fuc was he thinking. So i am glad it works for him sometimes, But I think he is sending the wrong message to alot of the new players just starting out here trying to learn, for each of the suckouts you get with 7 4 post 3 that you lose on and bust out with, then maybe the picture will be clearer for all |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 4:21pm Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 5:01pm Post subject: |
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Full House

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| looks like you got outplayed badly and sucked out congrats, now everyone on this forum should congradulate you as usual on what a great player you are, i called an all in with 5 outs and hit one. I'm a poker genious! |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 5:10pm Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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