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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 10:17am Post subject: was my skirt too tight? |
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Full House
Joined: 19 Mar 2004
Posts: 1405
WPP: 94
Location: Carlsbad, CA
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my thoughts: based on the preflop and post flop (before i folded) action, i figured at least one of the other 4 players had pockets bigger than my jacks (AA and KK - yikes!), and QQ or AQ suited seemed a good possibility as well.
so, i gave myself two outs, and if someone had QQ (very conceivable based on the preflop betting), i had no outs.
did i wimp out or make a good fold?
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: fishstick is MP1 with J , J .
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, fishstick 3-bets, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB caps, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, fishstick calls.
Flop: (21 SB) 7, Q, 9 (5 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, fishstick folds, SB 3-bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.
Turn: (15 BB) 5 (3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.
River: (18 BB) J (3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.
Final Pot: 20 BB
Results in white below:
SB has Ad Ac (one pair, aces).
UTG has Kd Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: SB wins 20 BB. |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 10:36am Post subject: |
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 16935
WPP: 83
Location: Raise Pre-flop, Check/Raise Flop
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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 10:41am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 19 Dec 2003
Posts: 1934
WPP: 77
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Your fold was perfectly ok here.. Even without looking at the "final outcome", I would have folded it too.
The only reason your second guessing your play here is because a MIRACLE card came on the river. Don't call that much action for a 2-3 outter.
Think about it like this.. What if that river card was a blank instead. Would you be glad you laid it down? Yes, you'd be saying ot yourself.. WHEW, dodged a big one that time.
Calling bets with a pocket pair to 1 over card was pretty big leak of mine.
Often I'd call just to be shown the over pair. |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 10:48am Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 203
WPP: 76
Location: Philly, PA
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Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 10:54am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 19 Mar 2004
Posts: 1405
WPP: 94
Location: Carlsbad, CA
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thanks all - just wanted to confirm.
it's definitely a fine line (in limit) between over playing your big pairs, versus letting them go to easily.
it's a journey...  |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 7:07am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 10 Aug 2004
Posts: 617
WPP: 257
Location: Vegas
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| If you had called all the way down, you would be "that fish, who doesnt know where the fold button is" that we all make fun of. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 7:31am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 19 Dec 2003
Posts: 1934
WPP: 77
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how ironic, fishstick... calling down and being called a fish..
hrmm.. 
I'd better shutup, my week of no banning requests is almsot up  |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 10:26am Post subject: Outs vs QQ |
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Season I
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Posts: 2359
WPP: 74
Location: Dallas, TX
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would have been a T and a K (straighting you and leaving a hole for the guy with the chicas)
But anyone with sense would've folded in a second, as you did. So leave the skirt just how it is.
PP bigger than your jacks aren't the only problem. You've gotta suspect all kinds of PPs, so there's a decent chance of any of those cards giving a set. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 12:04pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 19 Mar 2004
Posts: 1405
WPP: 94
Location: Carlsbad, CA
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| mike4066 wrote: | how ironic, fishstick... calling down and being called a fish..
hrmm..
I'd better shutup, my week of no banning requests is almsot up |
i've already got one pre-filled out to submit next week. |
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