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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 6:38am Post subject: Was this flop fold too tight? |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Arlington, VA
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"Chinamaniac" had been raising a lot of hands towards the beginning of the session, but he'd since slowed down, so I suspect he might've just been on a card rush. The one hand I saw him show down was A-K suited. Even if he had somewhat loose raising standards, I think that in general an out of position raise from the big blind after two limpers, followed by a bet into two opponents deserves at least some respect, even from lagg opponents. Should I call this assuming my overcards are legitimate outs (I'm resigning myself to hoping he has A-K), or just fold and move on?
PokerStars Game #3488675417: Hold'em Limit ($5/$10) - 2005/12/31 - 08:31:07 (ET)
Table 'Larissa' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: steppp ($122 in chips)
Seat 3: chinamaniac ($521 in chips)
Seat 4: greeceteo ($108.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Profane ($193 in chips)
Seat 6: dsaxton ($255 in chips)
steppp: posts small blind $2
chinamaniac: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dsaxton [Td 9d]
greeceteo: calls $5
Profane: folds
dsaxton: calls $5
steppp: calls $3
chinamaniac: raises $5 to $10
Dreamshadow has returned
greeceteo: calls $5
dsaxton: calls $5
steppp: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [2s 8h 6s]
steppp: checks
chinamaniac: bets $5
greeceteo: folds
dsaxton: folds
steppp: folds
chinamaniac collected $38 from pot
chinamaniac: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40 | Rake $2
Board [2s 8h 6s]
Seat 2: steppp (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: chinamaniac (big blind) collected ($38)
Seat 4: greeceteo folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Profane folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dsaxton (button) folded on the Flop |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 8:48am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 01 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 8:56am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 09 Apr 2005
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Location: Denmark
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No folding here is -EV.
the four gutshot outs alone is woth calling one SB for. and he could easily have AK or AQ here thus theres some outs left in your overcards. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 2:08pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 8:27pm Post subject: |
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i wouldn't mind a change...
Joined: 12 Jul 2004
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| What does everyone think of raising this here to isolate the limper? If you had a read I like it better than limping IMO, especially if our open limper is a cool 50/5/.5 that I try to get position on in these shorthanded games. |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Jan 2006, 10:30am Post subject: |
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Flush
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| I don't mind a raise here at all. and I rasie it almost always when facing only one limper, but reads can alternate this ofcurse. |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Jan 2006, 11:28am Post subject: |
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Full House
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| your implied odds are good enough to call it on the flop for the gutshot, but you could always raise for the free card on the turn |
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