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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 2:30am Post subject: common spot level 1 with AK |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Posts: 2033 WPP: 142
Location: http://ilikeaces86.blogspot.com/
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***** Hand History for Game 3290562454 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:18761393 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Saturday, December 31, 04:26:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 66828 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SuitedAce87 ( $1000 )
Seat 10: OLD_TABLE ( $1000 )
Seat 5: ilikeaces86x ( $1010 )
Seat 4: tod007 ( $935 )
Seat 7: colson10 ( $1000 )
Seat 6: Jockular ( $1000 )
Seat 3: rds_c ( $1040 )
Seat 8: bowser125 ( $1000 )
Seat 9: semisotyi ( $1000 )
Seat 2: IS337 ( $1015 )
Trny:18761393 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ilikeaces86x [ Kd As ]
>You have options at Table 67301 Table!.
colson10 folds.
bowser125 folds.
semisotyi folds.
OLD_TABLE folds.
SuitedAce87 calls [15].
IS337 raises [95].
rds_c folds.
tod007 folds.
>You have options at Table 67821 Table!.
ilikeaces86x folds.
Just wonderin how many people fold AK here to a single raise? |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 3:10am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush

Joined: 23 Jan 2005
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| dpeends on the raiser, plus ur OOP the rest of hte hand. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 3:37am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 18 Nov 2004
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| come on guys this is a lot more interesting thread than you think . This type of descision can throw your ROI a whole bunch one way or the other. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 3:44am Post subject: |
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Season III

Joined: 19 Aug 2005
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I like folding here.
If you call, then you're going to miss the flop 2/3 of the time and when he cbets, you have to fold.
If you raise you're going to make it 250-300 and do you really want to put 1/4 - 1/3 of your stack in this early with A high?
Since it's so early, you're not going to have any reads on the raiser. I usually like to give people the benefit of the doubt when classifying them as solid or loose unless they prove me otherwise and it's just too early to do that yet. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 3:46am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 1109 WPP: 96
Location: Kokkedal, Denmark
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| What about pushing over his raise and picking up the dead money in the pot? |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 3:49am Post subject: |
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Season III

Joined: 19 Aug 2005
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#3
Rafe Furst -
Here are three keys to getting the most out of A-K pre-flop:
1) Jam with A-K, but don't call all-in with it.
2) Raise enough when you have A-K to give your opponents a chance to fold.
3) Don't raise so much that the only hands that are willing to call you are the hands that have you dominated (A-A and K-K). |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 3:56am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 25 Apr 2005
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Had it been a 10 or 20 sng I wouldnt mind to push over opps raise without a read - ppl call all the time with AQ, AJ, hell even AT. And picking up 135 chips with a 800 chip stack is nice.
But this is a 100 and I can imagine play is much tighter in the early sng stages, so a push might be -EV. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 4:43am Post subject: |
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Strike 3

Joined: 07 Jul 2004
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| Do you have any sort of read aces? |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 12:04pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 18 Nov 2004
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| dwarfman wrote: | | Do you have any sort of read aces? |
no |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 12:53pm Post subject: |
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Strike 3

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| ilikeaces86 wrote: | | dwarfman wrote: | | Do you have any sort of read aces? |
no |
Then I estimate him as solid and fold, like you. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 12:58pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 18 Nov 2004
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| dwarfman wrote: | | ilikeaces86 wrote: | | dwarfman wrote: | | Do you have any sort of read aces? |
no |
Then I estimate him as solid and fold, like you. |
Unless I have seen him raising like every hand of level 1 this is usually a fold. I usually give people credit until they show otherwise. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 1:02pm Post subject: |
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Full House

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| ilikeaces86 wrote: | | dwarfman wrote: | | ilikeaces86 wrote: | | dwarfman wrote: | | Do you have any sort of read aces? |
no |
Then I estimate him as solid and fold, like you. |
Unless I have seen him raising like every hand of level 1 this is usually a fold. I usually give people credit until they show otherwise. |
But if it was raised less, to say maybe 45 - 60, this would be a call right? |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 1:09pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 18 Nov 2004
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| nogenius wrote: | | ilikeaces86 wrote: | | dwarfman wrote: | | ilikeaces86 wrote: | | dwarfman wrote: | | Do you have any sort of read aces? |
no |
Then I estimate him as solid and fold, like you. |
Unless I have seen him raising like every hand of level 1 this is usually a fold. I usually give people credit until they show otherwise. |
But if it was raised less, to say maybe 45 - 60, this would be a call right? |
Meh probably |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 2:23pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 01 Nov 2005
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| I see it as a reraise or a fold. Can't cold call. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 2:48pm Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 14 Aug 2005
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| I would fold it. With AK early I like to make a small raise to get some money in the pot and hit the flop. I think it's important to be the aggressor with AK, so I don't like calling big raises preflop. ESPECIALLY out of position. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 5:41pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 09 Aug 2005
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| At what level buy-in are players actually able to fold AQ or JJ preflop? |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Jan 2006, 9:53am Post subject: call or not |
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3-of-a-Kind

Joined: 27 Dec 2005
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| I dont know guys for that small amount of money I might just call this hand. Call him and see the flop, if you hit it great then you push if not fold the hand and move on. his position does suck tho |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Jan 2006, 1:55pm Post subject: |
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Season VII

Joined: 04 Aug 2004
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| I would agree with the fold. You are getting less than 2 to 1 on your money and will flop an A or K only 25% of the time and will complete by the river only 50% of the time. If you were in position this is still an iffy call. |
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