| Genius or Madman? |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Dec 2005, 11:59pm Post subject: Genius or Madman? |
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Flush

Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 341 WPP: 196
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You decide:
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR Hand History Converter
Preflop: Silverfist is SB with 6 , 4 .
5 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Silverfist completes, BB checks.
Flop: (4 SB) 2 , 3 , J (4 players)
Silverfist bets, BB calls, CO raises, Button folds, Silverfist calls, BB folds.
Turn: (4.50 BB) 8 (2 players)
Silverfist checks, CO checks.
River: (4.50 BB) J (2 players)
Silverfist checks, CO bets, Silverfist calls.
Final Pot: 6.50 BB |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 12:50am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 16 Apr 2005
Posts: 949 WPP: 56
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you are not stu ungar  |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 1:09am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 09 Feb 2005
Posts: 1602 WPP: 105
Location: Party 6 max
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check raise the river.
nice misclick. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 7:26am Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 12 Aug 2005
Posts: 487 WPP: 113
Location: Miami, Florida
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I don't know, CO could have 4,5, got to keep him honest.  |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 10:27am Post subject: |
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Straight

Joined: 12 Jan 2005
Posts: 130 WPP: 112
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| I don't understand this river call. You have nothing. Almost certainly his raise on the flop was a free card attempt. He either has overcards, flush draw, wheel draw or a midpair. All of which beat you. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 11:30am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 3559 WPP: 97
Location: Your place or my place
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This is probably the worst played river I've ever seen posted here.
Lead the river. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 2:37pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 10 May 2005
Posts: 966 WPP: 129
Location: st. paul, MO
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| I'd fold preflop. I assume the small blind is .10. But, given you called, a flop raise is a good option. Calling the river is the worst call I have ever seen. I was about to say worst play, but I have seen worse plays ... many times someone has failed to raise with the nuts last to act on the river. And in a live game once, I saw someone fold and turn over AA to one bet on the river with a 12BB pot and 3 jacks on the board. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 3:52pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 1456 WPP: 79
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You can't possibly win that by calling, raise it if you think he's bluffing  |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 4:05pm Post subject: |
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Straight

Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 118 WPP: 209
Location: Oxford, PA
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Let me guess, your mouse slipped and you clicked the wrong button. Please tell me that's what happened.
I did that on a hand, and folded JJ to a measely flop bet. Thankfully, it was the right choice when all was said and done, but yeah. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 4:18pm Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 341 WPP: 196
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The villain liked to limp with suited connectors in late position. He always raised aces, high cards and pairs to steal blinds. He was a huge multi-tabler, so I'd played over 1500 hands against him and he'd been sitting behind me for a couple hours at this point. I figured he must have a suited connector. He simply didn't limp with anything else that I'd seen.
I put him on a draw. I knew he didn't have the 67 of hearts or below, since I had those. I didn't believe he had the eight or jack, since he would have bet the turn. So, he either had T9 of hearts, or 54 of diamonds, spades or clubs. I checked to induce a bluff.
He had 54 of diamonds.
In retrospect, I should have check-raised here, just in case he has the T9 of hearts, but I didn't think of that at the time. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 5:01pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 10 May 2005
Posts: 966 WPP: 129
Location: st. paul, MO
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| No matter how good your read is, you can't narrow it down that far. There is only one holding you beat ... 45. He could just as easily had A4 or A5. A bet or check raise may be reasonable, but nothing can justify calling there. It just isn't possible to narrow someone's holding down that far. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2005, 9:38pm Post subject: |
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Royal Flush

Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 17164 WPP: 83
Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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I like it, if only to f with his head. Even if you're right 1 in 20 times there might be enough shania here. At least your heart is in the right place.
Great hand, amazing even. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2005, 12:10am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 3559 WPP: 97
Location: Your place or my place
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| Shania at .25/.50? She's still in warmups backstage man. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2005, 8:01am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 1179 WPP: 77
Location: Louisiana
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| Xanadu wrote: | | I'd fold preflop. |
I think folding preflop here is horrible. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2005, 8:26am Post subject: |
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Straight

Joined: 12 Jan 2005
Posts: 130 WPP: 112
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| Fnord wrote: | I like it, if only to f with his head. Even if you're right 1 in 20 times there might be enough shania here. At least your heart is in the right place.
Great hand, amazing even. |
That's a fine line between f'ing with his head and giving him free money.
I imagine the post hand conversation was similiar to Fnord's avatar... |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2005, 7:04pm Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 29 Aug 2005
Posts: 311 WPP: 86
Location: Australia
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| Pure genius. I love it... |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2005, 7:05pm Post subject: |
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Solicitor

Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Posts: 336 WPP: 47
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| yeah you might have got more genius votes if you would have posted that he had 54 and you won |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 2:08am Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 341 WPP: 196
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| bearcats05 wrote: | | yeah you might have got more genius votes if you would have posted that he had 54 and you won |
Hey, I voted madman . |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Dec 2005, 9:30pm Post subject: |
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i wouldn't mind a change...

Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 4577 WPP: 87
Location: TagFish
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I didn't vote as it didn't have 'idiot' in field . Anyway, I didn't want to say anything until after you posted the results as I somehow knew you probably had won the pot.
You cant discount other possibilities in this hand, like weak J9s or JT or QJ that would routinely take a free card against known aggressive opponents in this situation, if only to initiate a bluff from you on the river. Also, A3s, A4s, A5s, etc etc would all play this the same way. I could MAYBE defend betting this river, but any other play is spewage (including check/raising) |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Jan 2006, 6:43pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Posts: 1454 WPP: 54
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| I bet here if anything... |
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