Liberal or Conservative

Very simple.. which most accurately reflects your political views?

Liberal, but us Noo-Zeelanders are pretty weird so I wouldnt trust a word I say.

Understand that "liberal" means something different politically in each country.

There is very little difference between the US Democratic Party and the Canadian conservatives.

In fact there is very little difference between the US Democratic Party and the Republican party.

Whereas terms like "left wing" and "right wing" mean something completely different in different parts of the world.

Stalin was a left wing liberal.
Hitler was kinda right wing. About as much as Bush.

You also need to consider Social and Economic views, as they are definitely separate as far as "liberal" and "conservative" go.

Lastly, look what I found with the search function:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13351

Obviously, I'm a 'tweener. Voted republican. And will lean republican in the next election but I swing, baby.

-'rilla

What if none of the three accurately reflects our views?

That being said, as each day goes by, I'm moving further left.

Read the Ayn Rand Lexicon and you'll never be the same again.

im Cdn, so i stoppd voting/ caring long ago.

Just a couple little Ayn Rand tidbits. After reading you'll know why Democrats HATE Ayn Rand.

"Altruism declares that any action taken for the benefit of others is good, and any action taken for one's own benefit is evil. Thus the beneficiary of an action is the only criterion of moral value – and so long as that beneficiary is anybody than oneself, anything goes."

"If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject."

The only thing I have against Republicans is the religious aspect, since I'm athiest.

traditional conservative.

what bush is doing is ruining the ideals of the republican party and is alienating a large demographic. what happened to pre-2000 conservative ideals Sad

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I voted democrat, but Im not a democrat. I am a liberal, I think theres a huge difference. A democrat or a republican to me is someone who doesnt have a brain of thier own. People who align themselves with these groups just seem utterly brainwashed to me. Have you ever had a 'discussion' with either? All they say is mindless catch phrases from witch ever campaign they are sided with. I just really cant imagine how any person can agree 100% with either party and not be brainwashed. So either you are blinded by the flash and glitter presented by the side you voted for, or you are voting for the better of two evils. And thats a sad thing. Hopefully this will change one day.

Oh and I just want to make a statement about the simple and basic principles of taxes. If everyone is getting taxed a greater percent of thier income, then they all get less money. However all goods and services therefore drop in price. And the value of the US dollar rises. So no ones taking more money from you actaully, becaues the money you are left with is worth that much more. So one might say, wahts the difference? Well the difference is old people dont end up homeless or in 'nursing' homes that have atrotious conidtions. People that are bleeding are not turned down at E.R.'s because they dont have insurance. The average person is not going to need that 100,000$ operation, however when one does, they can get it, and it wont financially ruin them and thier family. And last but not least, we can fucking pay our soldiers properly, if and when we need to go to war for a just cause.

So stop fucking voting for tax breaks, its the most ass backwards thing you can do, and it helps no one but hte super rich, so why are so many people doing it!? Please stop the hypocracy, its sick.

If you want to read about a smart tax system do some reading here ...

http://www.fairtax.org

Also, i'm Conservative, but sad to say, there is no consertive party anymore... (Republican is much better than the other, but it's sure not conservative anymore... I find myself voting more and more libertarin)

<-- British libertarian.

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what? is he a Jew?!?!?

(totally joking naturally)

Conservative.

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