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Posted: Mon, 31 Oct 2005, 9:57am Post subject: inducing a bluff |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Feb 2005
Posts: 1090
WPP: 125
Location: Bangkok
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This is how I play against against people who are at least a bit aggressive and when I want to get some room later for free cards. Weak on flop, weak on turn, weak on river. This was a pretty non-scary board to try something like this. I see the river check pretty mandatory.
UncleAbe is at seat 1 with 125.67
lukas1981 is at seat 2 with 22.62
Mcfrugt is at seat 3 with 65.45
Saalis is at seat 4 with 232.40
Alex1974 is at seat 5 with 247.40
lukas1981 posts the large blind 2.00
UncleAbe posts the small blind 1.00
UncleAbe: --, --
lukas1981: --, --
Mcfrugt: --, --
Saalis:  
Alex1974: --, --
Pre-flop:
Mcfrugt: Fold
Saalis: Raise 6.00
Alex1974: Call 6.00
UncleAbe: Fold
lukas1981: Fold
Flop (Board:    ):
Saalis: Check
Alex1974: Check
Turn (Board:  ):
Saalis: Bet 8.00
Alex1974: Call 8.00
River (Board:  ):
Saalis: Check
Alex1974: Bet 10.00
Saalis: Call 10.00
Showdown:
Alex1974 shows: Ad, 6c (high card, Ace)
Saalis shows: Qd, Kh (a pair of Queens)
Mainpot:
Saalis wins the pot of 48.45 with a pair of Queens
(2.55 rake were taken for this hand) |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Oct 2005, 10:22am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 7519
WPP: 71
Location: Petra Marklund FTW ^^^^
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| id never check the river with someone behind ever, unless i missed a drw etc |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Oct 2005, 10:33am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Posts: 2969
WPP: 160
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | id never check the river with someone behind ever, unless i missed a drw etc |
If you are comfortable with your hand vs. what you think is probably their hand, and you know they are aggressive enough to bet into weakness more often than not, this is a very good play. I use it all the time to get extra $$ out of aggros who would otherwise just fold to my last bet. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Oct 2005, 11:08am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Feb 2005
Posts: 1090
WPP: 125
Location: Bangkok
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Miffed, if you do not understand the river check you should start understanding it. I was representing crap, he didnt have either, if I bet into him he was only going to fold unless he had caught something really good and I didnt think he had stuff like QJ or QT either. He wasnt going to make a re-raise bluff IMO. But he was aggressive enough to bluff when I had shown weakness. Also I wasnt strong enough to CR him.
This is where getting reads comes into play.. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Oct 2005, 11:14am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 7519
WPP: 71
Location: Petra Marklund FTW ^^^^
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yeah sorry
probably the difference between 50/100nl and the higher lmits.
The problem for me is that being quite aggressive often means opps take the oppertunity to check behind. Id rather value bet here than check it, but obviously i take the point about reads. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Oct 2005, 1:31pm Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
Posts: 64
WPP: 79
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I wish villain had 63s ...
Raise more pre-flop, bet the flop.
mj |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Oct 2005, 11:54pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Feb 2005
Posts: 1090
WPP: 125
Location: Bangkok
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| rdqlus wrote: | I wish villain had 63s ...
Raise more pre-flop, bet the flop.
mj |
It would be nice if you could back up your answers with some reasoning. Why raise more PF, why bet the flop _this_ time.? What do you put him on? I always raise 3x to unopened pot SH, I almost always bet the flop whether I have the cards or not. I want to vary my play, sometimes check with the cards is good to get free cards later when you dont have any cards.. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Nov 2005, 2:42am Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 02 Aug 2005
Posts: 186
WPP: 66
Location: Sweden
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I think most have been said but I rant some anyway. How much to bet preflop with depends alot on the table for me. But I usualy go with 3x on sh table aswell.
Mix the play abit dont hurt. If you never do it, people will see it and counter you. |
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