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Crazy game, QQ hand whats up?

  
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SmackinYaUp
Post Posted: Tue, 25 Oct 2005, 6:51am    Post subject: Crazy game, QQ hand whats up? Reply with quote
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This game was starting to get ridiculous. Here is one hand to use as an example. I feel like I played it really passively, but at the time I thought it would be safer to just hit an out instead of get all crazy with these guys. Afterwards if I would have played it like the made hand that it almost was, I probably would have taken the pot. Comments appreciated on this hand too

Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (real money), #1,398,472,470
Table Paramaribo, 25 Oct 2005 12:52 AM ET
Seat 3: SlappinYaUp ($140.30 in chips)
Seat 4: checks1x ($100 in chips)
Seat 7: AGilbert131 ($122.80 in chips)
Seat 9: tballtommy ($83.45 in chips)
Seat 10: Mmeat ($73.40 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
SlappinYaUp posts blind ($0.50), checks1x posts blind ($1), tballtommy posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP

SlappinYaUp gets [ 7C,7H ]

AGilbert131 bets $8, tballtommy calls $7, Mmeat calls $8, SlappinYaUp calls $7.50, checks1x folds.

FLOP [board cards 4C,6S,5D ]
SlappinYaUp checks, AGilbert131 bets $6, tballtommy calls $6, Mmeat calls $6, SlappinYaUp calls $6.

TURN [board cards 4C,6S,5D,2C ]
SlappinYaUp checks, AGilbert131 checks, tballtommy checks, Mmeat bets $5, SlappinYaUp calls $5, AGilbert131 calls $5, tballtommy calls $5.

RIVER [board cards 4C,6S,5D,2C,JC ]
SlappinYaUp checks, AGilbert131 checks, tballtommy checks, Mmeat bets $9, SlappinYaUp folds, AGilbert131 folds, tballtommy folds.

SHOWDOWN
Mmeat wins $84.



Now, this hand came up a short time later. Looking back, I don't know if I should have made it more preflop or not. Even though the game was crazy, I still feared a monster with the size of the reraise. I also didn't want to reraise allin, because that would have been a pretty big overbet. Maybe I was just being a pussy. On the flop, I hesitated a very long time before deciding to commit myself and I bet 60. He hesitated for a long time before pushing. Is this hand easy? I hate playing big pots with queens.


Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (real money), #1,398,482,374
Table Paramaribo, 25 Oct 2005 12:55 AM ET
Seat 3: SlappinYaUp ($116.80 in chips)
Seat 4: checks1x ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 7: AGilbert131 ($105.90 in chips)
Seat 9: tballtommy ($68.55 in chips)
Seat 10: Mmeat ($128 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Mmeat posts blind ($0.50), SlappinYaUp posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
checks1x bets $3, AGilbert131 bets $9, tballtommy calls $9, Mmeat calls $8.50, SlappinYaUp bets $20, checks1x folds, AGilbert131 calls $12, tballtommy calls $12, Mmeat calls $12.

FLOP [board cards 9C,6C,8H ]
Mmeat bets $6, SlappinYaUp bets $60, AGilbert131 bets $84.90 and is all-in, tballtommy folds, Mmeat folds, SlappinYaUp calls $24.90.
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mxiu
Post Posted: Tue, 25 Oct 2005, 8:01am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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1st hand, the check/call on the flopwas fine, you were last to call anyways. I would've raised the turn to see where I was at. You could very well have the best hand at this point, and the $5 bet looks like Ax clubs to me.

2nd hand, I would have played it preflop the same way. Flop wasn't that nice for you, although I would've thrown out a similar raise as you did. Of course, at this point I'd rather steal the pot rather than show it down. If someone goes over the top, I'm pretty sure you're beat. Not very many hands go over the top on this flop that don't have you beat. Looks like KK to me.
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SmackinYaUp
Post Posted: Tue, 25 Oct 2005, 12:15pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So even in a crazy game I can fold QQ for $25 more? It definitely made me nervous when he finally pushed, but I just felt like I was committed.
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Pingviini
Post Posted: Tue, 25 Oct 2005, 1:20pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Of course you will call his last pennies. No questions asked, these hands are really tough to play but in the long run I would say that this was +EV play. No matter results, I assume you lost. to a rivered straight Cool

I would've re-raised more PF, if they have 8-9 bucks invested they will call for 12 more. Make it 30 at least.
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mxiu
Post Posted: Wed, 26 Oct 2005, 2:04am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Oh, I didn't mean fold, you're tied to the pot if it's only another 25. I just think you're beat under these circumstances. I suppose that only applies if he actually put you in for a lot deeper though.
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