What do you think is the most beatable form of poker?

What do you think is the most beatable form of poker? Qualifications: it has to be somewhat commonly played (games are easy to find) and by "beatable," I mean that a moderately skilled player employing a reasonable strategy can at least make a profit. In other words, what I'm interested in is the game you can make the most money at in the long term with only a modest amount of knowledge.

I do not believe this game is hold 'em. I love hold 'em, but variance can run high because how the game is constructed, and the talent level out there is too good to make the game easily beatable. Even though there are still a lot of bad players, there are more good players now than in any other type of poker, and even some of the bad ones can easily confuse you by simply playing unpredictably.

My own opinion from the limited time I've spent playing other games (compared to hundreds of hours playing hold 'em) is that Omaha 8 or better and stud 8 or better seem like the most beatable, especially at low and middle stakes (all I have played so far) where the talent level is dire. Any form of stud seems to have less variance in it than hold 'em, and the play is often really loose and really bad. Omaha 8 or better seems to be more prone to variance, but having a basic understanding of starting hands and what consitutes a good hand on the flop seems to be enough to come out ahead in most sessions. I actually just started playing this about two months ago, and I can only recall one session where I cashed out less than I bought in with (and that time, it was only -$3).

Thoughts?

NLHE
variance has nothing to do with being beatable
and in hold'em it's the hardest to draw out on someone OUT OF ANY FORM OF POKER because if the board pairs it pairs both for you and your opponent. In 7 card stud, if your opponent pairs and you don't it makes you sad. You could have a pair of aces in the hole and he could have a pair of deuces. Now he's ahead without having to hit a set like he does in hold'em.
Hold'em is the most beatable and therefore the most popular form of poker

I tend to find more stud games with players that have absolutely no idea what they are doing more often than any other form of poker. Even at relatively large stakes there seem to be more bad players than good players. I think it is because people get good at hold-em and move up to mid/high stakes hold-em and then decide to try out stud and play at the same stakes that they do for hold-em without really knowing what they are doing at all. Because of this, I would say stud is the most beatable game, but I will say that two different times at 3/6 omaha tables, people have not known they could only use 2 of their hole cards, so it's possible to find some pretty good omaha games too Very Happy

At low stakes I'd have to go with Hi-Lo Stud as being the easiest to make money off.

With moderate knowledge being the key word, I think Razz is the most beatable. With one search on a quick starting hand guideline I completely destroyed a low / mid level razz game from my first day playing it on. I found tons of players that were absolutely clueless at the game, being insanely much worse at the game than I was after 1 hour of experience and the basic guideline to only play hands where your first 3 cards are 8 or lower.

Omaha hi/low mid stakes. Most of the time its hold-em players who stray away from hold-em tables because they want something new... and think two pair is the nuts... I'm yet to have a losing session in omaha hi/low

I like stud live but dont care for it onlien for osme reason.

NLHE both ways on the board.

7 stud 8/b... by a mile. At the lower limits most people do not even know the rules never mind what constitutes a good starting hand.

Say bye bye to only making one big bet an hour; stud 8/b is nothing short of a goldmine.

I tried the Full Tilt Razz game and wasn't impressed. Probably worth it if you're really good at the game or are patient enough to play it when the game is good.

Uncapped buy-in NLHE and Stud Hi/Lo no qualifier are the most notorious fish-killers.

The Paradice Pineapple game is a gold-mine if you have good LHE post-flop skills. The starting hands run closer in value, you'll catch more often so playing well post-flop is much more important and pounding is a good way to go stupid-broke.

Pot-limit 5 card Draw. Lots of donkeyz calling with shorts, drawing to straights and baby flushes (and still scared of boats when they hit), basically: suckers for a big raises (like in Holdem Wink

). Unfortunately, fishes go bust very fast, almost everybody thinks that draw poker has more randomness than holdem but in fact this game is more stable, less variance and less bad beats (but if bad beat comes, it's often spectacular and it's easy to go on tilt when your pat A flush gets busted by miracle 3 card draw that filled up, cracking AA with QJ in holdem is NOTHING compared to draw poker bad beats).

for dsaxton:

Sportingbet and PokerRoom offer good old 5c draw. Enjoy Smile

SB has pot limit .25/.50 and limit (various), PokerRoom has better choice in stakes....

I sat in a $11 7CS sng earlier on party and won 1st. All i did was win a few monster pots and camp for good cards, then stole antes whenever the chance came (bringer has a 2 for a door card, a complete will steal it almost every time, even against bad fish)

I also check raised trips on 5th street one hand and it ended up 4-way capped betting, that gave me a massive chip lead.

I'm also reading up on 7CS because after bootcamp, i'll be in California for 7 months or so, and the casinos/cardrooms all play 7CS

Hmmm...What about small-stakes PLOH.

It's loosy-goosey bullshit poker with embarrassingly bad play, and all you have to do to be a profitable player is read a bit and not be mentally reatarded.

Whatever form of poker besides NLHE ESPN airs a new episode of on a Tuesday night.

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