Xianti - Paradise Poker

Hey Xianti - A few months back you had posted that you started playing at Paradise and were doing quite well. I was just wondering if you had any update? Are you still playing there?

I am only playing SNGs there. I love the SNGs there but I can't do a damn thing in their ring games anymore.

I have been playing a lot of limit ring games there, and doing quite well. I have been playing mostly 2/4 and 3/6 and a little NL. What have you been playing? Maybe we can play on the same table sometime and take fishes money? PM me if your playing at any set times? My screenname is the same as here, hopefully you would have recogonize it if we had played together.

Hey golfer - Yeah I will definitely do that the next time I play there. I have been spending the majority of my time recently at InterPoker. Great Bonus structure there and pretty loose NL games.

I have been playing at Paradise roughly twice a week and then it has been only $10+$1 or $20+$2 SNGs. I've only got about $140 in Paradise right now so maybe I'll look for you sometime soon and we can sit down at a 2/4 or something. Although i would like to get my bankroll up a little more so I can keep playing the SNGs and withstand the inevitable variance. Rolling Eyes

Actually, I haven't played at Paradise since the start of this month. I'd been playing at Party and Empire (picking up reload bonuses), and this week, have been trying out Full Tilt (I dig the interface.. just needs more players).

I did quite well in the ring games in the short time (a few nights a week for about a month) that I played at Paradise (+$400) and will gladly play there again once I get another reload Bonus code from them.

Come to think, I believe I made more than that. Can't check my cashier history right now from work, though.

Anyway, this is at the $100 NLHE (.50/1.00 blinds) tables.

Hey Fnord, I think I need a lesson on picking a good table at Party, I must keep getting too many fish at a table and cant win. I am going to go back, just took a break and am having to good of results of late to change.

Xianti is there a reload Bonus going for everyone or just thru personal email? Code?

I noticed that too...

So you believe, that when playing limit you cant have too many fish? I suppose long term your totally right but your variance can go thru the roof when your strong hands are consistently outdrawn by five or six people calling to river.

Tyson is totally right in that you can punish them in NL, but can not as much in limit.

I have said many times before I try to find several fish (3 or 4) and a couple of decent players, who you have a good read on. It is very hard to win when you have 6 or 7. who you can not put on any hand and will call to river with any draw (gutshots and others). I admit it is my fault for not finding another, better table.

Like I have stated before there are so many players at Party I have no history on, I am having better results at Paradise where I can sit at a table and have PT stats on 3/4 of them already. I find the fish that I know I can beat. I ll be back @ party soon but am doing just fine at Paradise.

Hey Fnord, do play most evenings or when roughly do you play? I found numerous very loose tables and occasional very loose aggressive tables, which i find to be great in general, but the variance turned down in a major way and I found I was losing. I loosened up a bit on the very loose passive playing more Axs and Kxs in position and most pockets, lost a bunch, even folding the Axs and Kxs when I knew my kicker was bad. Im sure just bad variance, so I made change.

I can see what SC is saying here, I've lost so much money on great tables before in +EV situation, the more people in a hand the less % you are going to win. Obviuosly a pre flop favourote is still a favourite a bad run can see you drop more than a buy in before your cards start holding up. In this time the fish can dissappear to be replaced by rocks.

I've been avoiding the high pot tables recently and go for just above average, it gets to frustrating to see a fish get lucky and leave, or get lucky and then lose your money to the rock sitting next to you.

If you were sitting in the Bellagio, with a full table of fish, great, you will be the person with all the money at the end of the night, but on party there is no gaurentee they will stay once they win your money through suck-outs, or rebuy when they lose it to someone else. As soon as a table becomes juicy the rocks are also quick to put there name on the list and for each fish that busts out a rock quickly replaces them.

I think i do better against weak players and bad players then maniacs and fish. A lucky fish can really hurt your bankroll when you have little chanec of winning the money back as they give it to someone else straight away.

With this being said of course occasionally you are going to make an absolute killing.

I think it comes down to long term win rate Vs variance. Also style of play is very important, just because you can beat a table of avg players doesn't mean you can beat a table of fish, you have to make very specific changes to your strategy TPTK is rarely enough to win a pot.

Vegas pros have gone bust loseing their bankrolls to fish, they just wasn't prepared for the huge variance.

/end rant

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