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Posted: Mon, 20 Jun 2005, 5:15pm Post subject: AA UTG in a pokerstars $10 SnG, no read
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Full House
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 1109
WPP: 96
Location: Kokkedal, Denmark
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Was this the right play? I thought maybe I should have reraised him on the flop to either get him out or to gain information. His flop bet seemed to me like he was trying to buy the pot, so his check on the turn didnt worry me at all. Maybe I should have bet here. I think I was beeing to passive in this hand - what do you think? Or was I just acting like another idiot who cannot let go of his AA hand? 
PokerStars Game #1937912562: Tournament #9182687, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/06/20 - 13:53:57 (ET)
Table '9182687 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: InsureMe (2820 in chips)
Seat 2: SSTANN6869 (2280 in chips)
Seat 3: bgbgbg (2195 in chips)
Seat 4: yagoof (1570 in chips)
Seat 5: TheHitdog (2125 in chips)
Seat 6: Robert85 (1510 in chips)
Seat 7: Grubbs1111 (1000 in chips)
yagoof: posts small blind 25
TheHitdog: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Robert85 [Ac As]
Robert85: raises 100 to 150
Grubbs1111: folds
InsureMe: folds
SSTANN6869: folds
bgbgbg: folds
yagoof: calls 125
TheHitdog: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [7d Ks 4c]
yagoof: checks
Grubbs1111 said, "what move u talkin about"
TheHitdog: bets 175
Robert85: calls 175
yagoof said, "reraising the blinds when they're chip leads"
yagoof: folds
*** TURN *** [7d Ks 4c] [Qs]
TheHitdog: checks
Robert85: checks
*** RIVER *** [7d Ks 4c Qs] [5c]
TheHitdog: bets 800
Robert85: calls 800
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TheHitdog: shows [Qh Kh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Robert85: mucks hand
TheHitdog collected 2400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2400 | Rake 0
Board [7d Ks 4c Qs 5c]
Seat 1: InsureMe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: SSTANN6869 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: bgbgbg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: yagoof (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: TheHitdog (big blind) showed [Qh Kh] and won (2400) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 6: Robert85 mucked [Ac As]
Seat 7: Grubbs1111 folded before Flop (didn't bet) |
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Posted: Mon, 20 Jun 2005, 6:48pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 22 Sep 2004
Posts: 1102
WPP: 80
Location: Wastin' away again in margaritaville....
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raise that on the flop. no question.
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Posted: Tue, 21 Jun 2005, 5:18am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 1240
WPP: 111
Location: Following the Herd to 6-Max Land
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| Amen. Why would u call when u get as good a flop for AA as u can hope for? Re-raise and let him know u have some serious firepower. |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Jun 2005, 5:33am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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WPP: 104
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AA UTG is such a pain. Sometimes I just push to avoid all the trouble.  Your raise preflop is decent, but like what others have said, raise on the flop, if not push. |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Jun 2005, 6:31am Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 26 Mar 2005
Posts: 141
WPP: 393
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I agree with the raise on the flop but the other guy would have called with top pair and good kicker I think but yes AA UTG sucks sometimes.
I would have defiantly re-raised installed of called though on the flop. |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Jun 2005, 5:10pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 24 Jan 2005
Posts: 5407
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| Shark Bait wrote: | | AA UTG is such a pain. Sometimes I just push to avoid all the trouble. Your raise preflop is decent, but like what others have said, raise on the flop, if not push. |
pushing wouldnt be a bad idea if hte pot was bigger on the flop. |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Jun 2005, 5:12pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Posts: 1349
WPP: 59
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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I honestly would have limped then pushed all in if the BB raised
KQ would not have gotten away from that K high flop |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Jun 2005, 5:41pm Post subject: dfgagh
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Straight
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
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WPP: 247
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ehhhhh... I just think it sucks that he paired his kicker. You didn't do anything terribly wrong.
But when he led out on the flop you have to consider what type of hands he may be holding. AK, KQ, KJ (pp set maybe). I think calling is actually not a bad play. Because usually the turn won't pair his kicker and he's there thinking that his pair of kings is still good. Where as if you reraise him hard on the flop he may think you have AK or something.
When that queen comes I think you should get ready for some bad news, as plenty of players like to play KQ hard. Maybe a bet on the turn to see how he likes his hand now. I would have called that river bet too... just because a lot of the time fishies are making this bet with a worse hand than AA.
Either way, unless you know your opponent well there's so many possibilities as to what a random fish could be holding. So just tought luck here i think....? |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Jun 2005, 8:06am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6696
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Location: Somewhere in middle america
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Reasons to raise the flop:
leading out here smacks of "I hit top pair". Most people will not try to bluff two people out of a pot when they weren't the first raiser. if he hit top pair here after calling a raise, he either has AK or is one of those people who play KQ/KJ like it's AK. Either way your re raise will likely be called.
If he actually is bluffing, he's not likely to go again on the turn after you raised pre flop then called, so this is probably all the $$ you'll get anyway, may as well win the hand now.
If he called with 56, you don't want to give a free card.
Finally, if the SB has a draw hand that flop may have hit it - 56, 67, 78 maybe 45 are getting huge odds and are drawing to beat you. |
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