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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 9:38am Post subject: Poker, pr0n, and p0rk ch0ps (NSFW from page 4 on)
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 1434
WPP: 99
Location: Boxing Kirby's -> (@'.')@ @('.'@)
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Hey peoples, this is the 2nd part of my God knows how many part blog process thing. My previous blog was just the beginning of what will hopefully be a long and profitable poker career (its looking pretty good so far  ). Basically what happened in the last one is I started out as a complete noobdonkfish (in poker and on this site) with $10 and turned it into the roll I currently have now, $636. That took me from 2nl to 25nl. If you want to read the whole thing, heres a link: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/from-rags-to-riches-complete-t78573-300.html#872933
I gotta warn you, there isn't anything profound in there, or anything very awe inspiring. Its just a list of thoughts/brags/beats/randomness that one should expect from a micro grinder. I don't expect this one to be any different, and that is ok. I am happy with knowing that I have a few people who check in on me, and see how I'm doing and thats enough.
Ok, so poker goals for this op/blog are thus:
- Beat 25nl ({acronym Renton hates})
- Move up to 50nl at $1500-$2000 (will decide when the time comes)
- Achieve at least Platinum Star if not SN (obv this will be at 50nl)
- Grow as an all around poker player (learn some new variations/break out of NLHE dependency, this will come later this fall after boot camp.)
I also have a few life goals I'd like to talk about throughout the course of this:
- Graduate from USMC (Unites States Marine Corps) Recruit Training.
- Get a fucking gf. I like the single life, but its starting to get old, although having a wimminz around all the time might detract from poker... will have to think about this one... 
- Get a new job ASAP if the opportunity arises, this security guard BS is killing me.
- Just have a bad ass time in my apartment next year with 3 of my best friends. It might be the last 9 months as a "free man" I will ever have, I plan on going active duty in the fall of 2010.
Other then that, this thing is good to go. I'll make a new appropriate OP banner soon, I'm just too lazy this morning.
Later peoples!!! (And sorry about the tl;dr) |
Last edited by dranger7070 on Sat, 24 Oct 2009, 4:02pm; edited 4 times in total
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 9:49am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 1611
WPP: 61
Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 12:19pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 31 Oct 2008
Posts: 414
WPP: 150
Location: Between a couple of points.
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GL....
Looks like you were fine the other day when I railed for a bit...
I was at 2nl the day before and tried to get onto a 6max table with an insane $/pot and just as I got there I am pretty sure that you had just left...I saw your name for a split second with some insane amount in your table roll....
So no...I am not a stalker, I just checked to see if you were back there b/c I suck at 6max, so I thought I'd watch but you are now at 25nl and don't care about us little fish anymore! |
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 1:17pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 1434
WPP: 99
Location: Boxing Kirby's -> (@'.')@ @('.'@)
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Hahaha, dude Vinland, you caught me and 5 other mIRC guys (4 of which are still FTR, one of them was spoonitnow) playing a "FTR only" 6max game. It was mostly for donking around purposes, and we played about 100 hands. I ended up ~$26 which is pretty much amazing, but I ran good right when I needed to. I won a 1000bb pot with 99 > AK AIPF vs spoon. Won a big pot with T8s on a K hi board AI on the flop when I had OESD + FD vs micro's top set. Other then that, we all just played super laggy and it was a lot of fun. I think i ran something like 62/19 (profitable? ).
Don't worry about me not caring about you 2nl, 5nl grinders. I was there not that long ago, and remember how much patience it required to get to the next level. It definitely is a grind in the early goings, but once I hit 10nl my BR just took off and hopefully it doesn't stop now. If you ever got any questions, or want me to sweat/rail you just shoot me a PM or something and we can something set up. I've already sweated wonderland and spotted some things he could def do better.
Later! |
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 1:55pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 899
WPP: 67
Location: Norman, OK
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| I'd say good luck but we all know luck has nothing to do with it! |
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 3:28pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Posts: 567
WPP: 84
Location: Birmingham, UK
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| epic work dude. keep it up and catch me up already!! best of luck to you in tonights donkfest. |
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 5:52pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 01 Mar 2009
Posts: 477
WPP: 149
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| Congratulations and good luck in everything life related! |
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 7:45pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 3392
WPP: 82
Location: the ether
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play more hands
nice work, keep on keeping on - see you at small stakes later this year perhaps! |
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 7:48pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 1434
WPP: 99
Location: Boxing Kirby's -> (@'.')@ @('.'@)
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| I sure hope so, although boot will certainly cut into the odds of that happening. I'd like to be playing 50nl consistently by the end of this year though. That would be a HUDGE accomplishment for me. $10-$4k+ in one year is boc imo. |
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 8:30pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Posts: 2205
WPP: 81
Location: sigh..nit ring
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 8:44pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 02 Sep 2008
Posts: 165
WPP: 105
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 10:49pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Posts: 358
WPP: 68
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Posted: Sun, 19 Apr 2009, 10:52pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 1434
WPP: 99
Location: Boxing Kirby's -> (@'.')@ @('.'@)
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Had a +2 BI day ($63) so a relatively good start to the op. Started out pretty shitty, but I managed to turn it around through some "decent' play and lucky cards. I'm not gonna lie, I've been on a heater from hell ever since moving up to 10nl and it doesn't seem like its slowing down yet. Hopefully SOME of this is my poker "skill" but we shall see when things cool down.
I'll also try to post a few hands here, and in the BC, although this will probably happen more this fall when I have HEM and a computer that doesn't suck ass, so I can actually go through my HH's and review hands, instead of digging through raw HH's (which I almost refuse to do, unless I'm SUPER motivated that day).
Thats all for now folks! |
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Posted: Mon, 20 Apr 2009, 11:36pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
Posts: 677
WPP: 111
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| Gimme some of that mojo! I been running like dog poo this month. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 3:16am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 1434
WPP: 99
Location: Boxing Kirby's -> (@'.')@ @('.'@)
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So after the +2 BI day, I had a 3 BI loss the next night (last night) decided to call it quits before things got out of hand. *pat myself on the back* This afternoon I fired up some tables, achieved silverstar (w00t first time ever!!!!) and brought myself back from the -3 BIs. So things were going good. I should have done this before grinding tonight, but I'm dumb, so yea... I seen that Stars is having a reload Bonus, so I took them up on it for $500 (I'll receive $100 when I clear 2k vpps (~18k hands). Decided to take a break for a lil while. Went out got some T-bell (mmm taco bell) and played some NHL 09 with a dorm buddy. Germany (me) > France (my buddy) when we played a game of nation vs nation lol. Although Japan (me) < Italy (him) before that. So that was fun.
Hopped back on the tables. Epic doomswitch for the first time at 25nl. Less than 1k hands (I had hoped to play closer to 2k+) and I had to call it quits. Just got super bitchslapped by variance. 860 some hands, WTSD 20%, W%SD 14% lol. Ez game imo. KK < 96o and the like. I KNOW I spewed off some of that money, I just find if hard to believe that it was ALL spew, just judging from my stats of 12/9 (like always) and my SD stats. I felt I was playing fine, but after losing $120 in a close to an hour, it gets to you lol. Especially when its the first $100 loss you've ever had, so I decided to shut down all my tables and live to fight another day.
That is something I could and WOULD not have been able to do when I first started playing poker. I'd be pacing the floor, ranting about online poker being rigged and whatnot, but I've come to realize the fact that you can play flawless poker (which I don't) and still have swings worse than this. I even hesitate to call it a swing, its just not large enough to justify that lol. I'm actually EXTREMELY proud of the discipline I showed in getting off the tables even though everything in my head was screaming "Just ONE more hand, we can get it back!" There is absolutely no need for me to keep on playing when something like this is happening, just take a break for a couple hours (or a couple days, however long it takes to get your head screwed back on straight) and come back and whoop some ass. Thats how you handle swings. Don't try and be Mr. Berry Badass and fight through it THAT night or session. You will destroy your roll (ask BooG). I'm content to just live and fight another day.
Just so you guys don't think its all doom and gloom (lol) I'm still looking forward to grinding tomorrow morning, bright and early (for me lol, which is about 10am ), I hit silverstar, and if I can manage to stay at 25nl for the rest of the month and I manage to hit 40k hands like I planned, I'll be at goldstar (SHIP IT). Also, I cleared 91/2k vpps towards my Bonus, which doesnt sound like much, but it makes me happy .
Cliff notes cuz this is tl;dr:
- Lost 3 BI's last night.
- Made it up in my first session today.
- Took advantage of stars reload Bonus for $500 (I'll get $100 in Bonus)
- Took my first big hit at 25nl tonight, -5 BI's.
- Shut down my tables at the first (ok probably 2nd or 3rd) sign of tilt.
- Hit silverstar today.
- Ready to pwn 25nl
- My stoploss to move back down to 10nl is $450 roll (not including the $500 that is in my BR from the Bonus, I won't touch that).
- Looking forward to grinding tomorrow . (not being sarcastic)
Here's my garph from the -5 BI session, just because this is as close as I will come to a tilt post (God I hope) and just to garner a lil sympathy 
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9263/tonight.png
Night all! Sorry for the long ass post! |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 10:02am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 01 Mar 2009
Posts: 477
WPP: 149
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| dranger7070 wrote: | | That is something I could and WOULD not have been able to do when I first started playing poker. I'd be pacing the floor, ranting about online poker being rigged and whatnot, but I've come to realize the fact that you can play flawless poker (which I don't) and still have swings worse than this. I even hesitate to call it a swing, its just not large enough to justify that lol. I'm actually EXTREMELY proud of the discipline I showed in getting off the tables even though everything in my head was screaming "Just ONE more hand, we can get it back!" There is absolutely no need for me to keep on playing when something like this is happening, just take a break for a couple hours (or a couple days, however long it takes to get your head screwed back on straight) and come back and whoop some ass. Thats how you handle swings. Don't try and be Mr. Berry Badass and fight through it THAT night or session. You will destroy your roll (ask BooG). I'm content to just live and fight another day. |
NICE. I'm mentioned in your post! YES! Oh wait, I'm mentioned for the wrong reasons 
But in all seriousness, good job leaving the tables at the first (or second or third) sign of tilt. That shows you've grown as a poker player (since you say you wouldn't have done that in the past). Sorry to hear you lost the 4.8 BI's...but it happens. As you said, you're alive and able to fight another day. That's more than some of us can say (hint, hint). Hopefully I crossed your mind at some point during the tiltfest (no homo ) and said, "I do NOT want what just happened to BooG to happen to me." Maybe some good can come out of the bad that hit me. If there's one thing I've learned from my bad deed, it's that there's always tomorrow to win the money back!
As for the Bonus, I'll also be taking part in that. Just curious, how'd you calculate how many hands it'd take you? |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 11:21am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 481
WPP: 144
Location: Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?
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Don't let it get you down. Been there, done that. If you have to move down (hopefully you won't) it can be a bit damaging to the poker ego... at first. If you start playing with scared money, don't.
You made a consistant climb to 25NL without much trouble. Most don't. There's something to be said about that. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 11:55am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 1434
WPP: 99
Location: Boxing Kirby's -> (@'.')@ @('.'@)
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BooG to figure it out, you take how many vpps you earn per hand (at 10nl I earned around .03-.04/hand, at 25nl im earning .11/hand) then you divide the number of VPPs you need (2k for my Bonus) by the number of vpps you earn per hand. So for me the equation is 2000/.11 = 18k or thereabouts (its like 18100).
If I have to move down, so be it. I have achieved many goals that I wouldn't have even thought possible, I understand so much more about this game than I did when i started (although there is always more to learn ), and I'm an all around better player. Why would I want to jeopardize that by being too prideful to play outside my roll requirements? I've broken solid BRM before, it wont happen again, no matter if this continues until I have to drop down to 2nl, I will drop down. Its only a matter of time until I get back to my winning ways.
Thanks for the support guys. I'm glad they aren't just "aw damn, that sux dude" lol. Those posts tilt the shit out of me. I might go back through and read my old blog, see how far I've come, get my confidence back up.
Thanks again fellas!
(and yea BooG, no homo fo sho  ) |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 12:25pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 1477
WPP: 98
Location: swonging and swonging
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Honestly, I know you're playing to move up right now, but most of the players at higher limits, jump around a lot. If the 10nl games are really good and the 25nls have a lot of nits or are too high variance for your taste, play 10nl. There's nothing wrong with that. Bankroll limitations don't limit how low you can go. Ease yourself in to 25nl imo.
I cash out every month, so some times when a month starts bad I have to start looking 2 or 3 limits below the ones I normally play. Also, during the off-peak times, I usually play way below my roll. When it's all regs, go where the fishiest regs are. Go where you'll make the moniez. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 5:05pm Post subject:
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High Card
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Hey dranger, just wanted to let you know I think this is great. I started playing online around Jan. and you're blog seemed to be right on with what I was going through. I've been lurking on FTR for about 4 months now, and your blog (along with others) is why I decided to register and get more involved on here (give it up for 2 posts!). Anyways, keep up the good work! Thanks for sharing. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 6:28am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Posts: 567
WPP: 84
Location: Birmingham, UK
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| aw damn, that sux dude. gl. |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 5:54am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 1434
WPP: 99
Location: Boxing Kirby's -> (@'.')@ @('.'@)
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Yea, it was pretty harsh, but I'm kind of glad something like this finally happened. If you go to my last post in my first blog, you will see that I never had a big downswing in there ever. I'm glad that I managed to pull through it without trashing my roll, and having the discipline to stop and move down when I should. At the very least I'll be able to take that away from this.
As for an update, I moved down to 10nl. First time (Wednesday night/Thurs morning) I had a rough go of it, ended up only down less than a BI, but it was pretty swongy. Came back today, ready to play solid, nonspewtard poker, and I did. I'm still winding down the session, but heres the stats:
2,763 hands
+$46
17bb/100
Can someone explain to me why I pwn 10nl, but suck ass at 25nl?
Roll isn't hurting so bad anymore, so I'm happy with that, and the fact that I'm not playing scared money. If I lose a stack at 10nl its like, "LOL $10?!?!? BITCH I JUST LOST $150+!!!"
So yea, thats it for now, I'm going out tomorrow night with some friends to get drunk. (Jager Bombs FTW), and there will be some wimminz around, most of whom I've met and seemed to like me, so we'll see whats up there when the time comes. But other then that, time for sleeps. Laterz! |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 9:46am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 31 Oct 2008
Posts: 414
WPP: 150
Location: Between a couple of points.
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| If you pwn 10nl so much why dont you just grow the roll to 30-35 BI and then go to 25nl...then losing a BI will seem to be relatively the same?? |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 10:07am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
Posts: 583
WPP: 59
Location: Who loves ya baby
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I'm on the iPoker network where it goes $10nl - $20nl, so I'm at $20nl but at the same level as you. I doubt very much that you suck at $25nl, but I would hope that you play less tables at your new level until you've got a feel for it. Maybe even single table for a week or two?
I've never seen anything in your posts to indicate that you are anything but a solid, intelligent, winning player (who could probably stack me blindfolded). There is certainly a noticeable skill gap between the two levels, but $25nl very beatable and I have every faith in you.
Bring on the TAGfish! |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 11:54am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 31 Oct 2008
Posts: 414
WPP: 150
Location: Between a couple of points.
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Hey dranger,
I thought I'd ask for some HUD stat advice since I'm just getting started with Holdem manager.
At 2nl (remember....2nl) what HUD stats should I have on the screen?
Right now I have VPIP, PFR, Agg factor, fold to cbet%, cbet% and 3bet...
I dont see much point in 3bet b/c at 2nl that usually means AQ+, JJ-QQ+, but I have it anyway.
Is there anything else you'd recommend? |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 12:46pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Posts: 567
WPP: 84
Location: Birmingham, UK
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If you feel like you have to move down straight away after losing a few BI at a new level, then just grind 10NL until you're deeper rolled for 25NL, that way you can just shrug off a couple of dropped BIs rather than thinking OH NOES, 2 MOAR BIs AND IM BACK TO 10NL.
I tried to move up a few times and eventually got bored of moving between the two and waited until I had $750 before moving to 25NL, planning to move back down at $500. It'll be pretty hard to run out of room for error with a 10BI stop loss.
Anyway, gl dude. No doubt you can do it. Havn't seen you on MSN in a while but if you're ever around when I am just gimme a shout and I'm more than willing to set up a sweat / go through some stuff or whatever. |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 3:09pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 1477
WPP: 98
Location: swonging and swonging
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If it helps take the pressure off, you could play mixed sessions. I think I remember you saying you play 8 tables, well when you're on the edge of moving back down, play 6 10nl and 2 25nl, then if you're back to comfortable, play 4 and 4 until you're at like 35 buyins at 25nl, then just play 25nl.
It really is the same game with bigger numbers. If you're fucking up then it's in your head, if you're running bad then there's nothing you can do but keep playing your best game. Adjust to the players, not the game. |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 9:04pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 18 Sep 2008
Posts: 430
WPP: 94
Location: Oregon
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| dranger7070 wrote: | | Can someone explain to me why I pwn 10nl, but suck ass at 25nl? |
Cuz you're being a bitch and whining about one bad session . Knock it off you're doing great and you'll continue to do great! You and I have talked about riding the wave while it last. They all come crashing down eventually and then you have to get back on your board and pabble your ass back out to sea and find the next big wave...amirite?
FYI, I pop down to 5nl and 2nl periodically when I want to try something out. I've not had a loosing session yet doing it and it helps out the BR a little. Our good friend spoon plays multiple stakes as well.
Now get your ass out there and grind mutter fuker! |
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Posted: Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 6:04pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 1434
WPP: 99
Location: Boxing Kirby's -> (@'.')@ @('.'@)
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Lol thanks for the support fellas.
@ vinland: All I have on my stats are VPIP/PFR/AF/# of hands new line cbet/fold to c-bet and thats it. No need for anything else imo. But i have 3bet stats and all that garbage in a drop down.
@ sil693: Yea I haven't been getting on MSN too much lately while grinding (or AIM for that matter) it seems to keep me more focused when I dont have all that junk open, but ill def hit u up for a sweat sesh. Also, I lost 8 BI's at 25nl before moving down (well 8 BI's after I was up a few at first) so its not like "ZOMG 2 BI's MOVING DOWN!!!" lol. I think it was a good move on my part to move down when I did.
@ Lucofish: thanks for blowing smoke up my ass lol . I can always use more of that imo. Also, I totally agree that 25nl (or 20nl) is easy as shit, I just ran kinda bad/spewed while tilting so I was kinda "forced" to move down. I have no doubt that I can pwn that limit as bad as 10nl.
@ dev: I kinda like the idea of a mixed session, I might try that out some time in the future... Also, when I lost multiple BI's it didn't really get to me that I lost $150. The monetary value doesnt get to me yet, even tho $25 is a lot to me irl. I just choose to think in terms of bb's and BI's. It makes losing a stack(s) that much easier and I think that has contributed to my success in moving up. Losing the money didn't get to me, losing a bunch of BI's at once, and no longer feeling rolled for the limit DID, which is why I chose to move back down even though I had 20 BI's for 25nl. I'll probably move back up after April is over if I am over $600-650.
@ Harley: True dat yo, and it was TWO sessions not ONE. Getchur facts straight before you start pointin fingers imo lol. I go down to the penny stakes every now and then to screw around if I don't feel like grinding, but I never really "work stuff out" down there. I just do that at 10nl nowadays. Theres more regs (who are terribad but they count lol) and they play their hands face up so you can see how doing a certain play in a certain situation works. You'll see what I mean soon enough I think.
Alright peeps, I'm gonna grind til work. Ill update tomorrow sometime (probably tomorrow night.
Laterz |
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Posted: Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 3:01am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 1434
WPP: 99
Location: Boxing Kirby's -> (@'.')@ @('.'@)
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Hey ppls. Had a 2.1k hand day today. Only 8,750 hands away from my 40k hands in April goal! w00t! SHIPIT! So anyways, about my day lol. Ran good ({acronym Renton hates}) made +4 BI's. I was up to 6 BI's but hit set < set and KK < AA right at the end (which is what caused me to end my session before I spewed. So gg me.
Later on, I started talking to Outlaw about some stuff. Mostly about hooking up a sweat session of 10nl pretty soon. And somehow we got on the convo of SnGs and we got pretty into it. So much that I ended up playing 2 $6.50 9 man turbos. Busted out in the first one, finished 1st in the 2nd. So +$15 in those. Also, ran like god in the 2nd one lol. Sucked out SOOO many times it was sick.
So yea, roll is above $600 again w00t ez game. Swongs don't get me down for long imo . |
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Full House
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| dranger7070 wrote: | Hey ppls. Had a 2.1k hand day today. Only 8,750 hands away from my 40k hands in April goal! w00t! SHIPIT! So anyways, about my day lol. Ran good ({acronym Renton hates}) made +4 BI's. I was up to 6 BI's but hit set < set and KK < AA right at the end (which is what caused me to end my session before I spewed. So gg me.
Later on, I started talking to Outlaw about some stuff. Mostly about hooking up a sweat session of 10nl pretty soon. And somehow we got on the convo of SnGs and we got pretty into it. So much that I ended up playing 2 $6.50 9 man turbos. Busted out in the first one, finished 1st in the 2nd. So +$15 in those. Also, ran like god in the 2nd one lol. Sucked out SOOO many times it was sick.
So yea, roll is above $600 again w00t ez game. Swongs don't get me down for long imo . |
That was hella fun, definitely gotta do that again.
And you didn't really suck out THAT much.. you won a couple 60/40s and one 70/30 as a dog I think.. and twice it was as the big stack so that's standard.
Gratz on hitting $600. I had a +$1.90 day, but was down like $60 at one point... go me lol |
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Posted: Tue, 28 Apr 2009, 2:42am Post subject:
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Yea man, anytime lol. Idk, maybe it just SEEMED like i was sucking out all the time. And winning $2 is farking HUGE when you put in the context that you were down $60, so nicely played sir!
Played like 300 hands of 2nl 6max to donk around. Won like 26 cents. I worked all day and didnt feel like grinding, so yea gg me. I have like 7k hands more until i hit 40k. I have absolutely NOTHING to do tomorrow, so I plan on putting in at least 3k hands. That'll put a dent in it. Get about 1k hands in on Wednesday and polish her off on Thursday propbet thing complete. SHIPIT!!! Which is incredible considering I have been lazy as shit grinding this month. :/ |
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Posted: Tue, 28 Apr 2009, 1:37pm Post subject:
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| Checking in on ya dranger. 40k hands is kick ass buddy, good job I'm sure you get there. I'm at 34.5k so far maybe I might see if I can power up and hit 40k. Doubt I will cuz I really can't load up more than about 8 tables at 10nl right now. But who knows. Anyhow keep up the good work! |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Apr 2009, 7:27am Post subject:
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Didn't play very much yesterday. Kinda disappointed in myself...  O wells, like 5k hands to go, so no huge deal. At the very least, I can wake up tomorrow and open up like 20 tables of 2nl and robot my way to the win lmao.
Also, thinking about doing a mini-op thing next month before boot. Thinking about doing like a 30 sng (stfu I know its not much) sample of the 3.40's starting out 4 tabling them. If I get a good ROI in them, I'll move up to the $6.50 turbos. (9 man's for both {acronym Renton hates}). Reasoning behind this is because I fucking want to thats why. Something to break up the monotony of the grind (even though I won't be able to play poker for ~5 months due to boot/MOS training after May :/). I'll still grind a shit ton (at least as much as I can, I plan on visiting with family, chillin with some buddies, getting as much ass as I can possibly get my hands on, and drinking some beer. All things I'll be missing for at least 13 weeks ). just because I MIGHT do a SnG thing, don't mean shit. FR is still my bread and butter for profits.
Also, made a bit of an "impulse" buy this morning. I got to thinking about it, and decided to go ahead and man up and get another subscription to GS. I got a one month (kinda pointless getting 3 months when I'll be gone for 2/3 lul) FULL subscription, last time I only got micro. I plan on devouring pretty much every vid they have that has to do with 25nl, and sngs up to the 6.50 turbos. Will def check out MTT vids too. Reasoning behind this was, I've been doing really well lately, so I decided to give myself a "treat" with my winnings. (Kinda sad when a treat = more poker learnin', but what can i say? DEGEN FTW!!!)
Thats about it, nothing hudge to report. Time to wrap up this 40k in april. And get ready for boot. SHIP IT! |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Apr 2009, 4:42am Post subject:
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Update:
Got home from work, fucked around for a while. I saved my entire database onto a flash drive, then proceeded to delete it off my computer. With Poker Copilot (the tracking software I use) it starts to be a HUGE resource hog after like 60-70k hands, so I decided to fix the problem. I'll load them all in tomorrow so I can post my monthly graph, but it was tilting me too much during a session to have my shit freeze and then I time out on 12 tables causing me to miss a ton of stuff.
So after that, I hop on 12 tables of 10nl. I wasn't too optimistic about the session since the tables seemed kinda dead, but it went quite well. 1k hands +$22 for like 20bb/100 so still running ridiculously good at 10nl. After the session I played in a 70fpp satty to the Sunday 1/4 mil. Its really just throwing away feeps imo, but I figured what the hell. Ran like God, placed 1st easily. +$10.78 to the roll after selling T$.
So literally, one week after I lost $200, I'm sitting at pretty much where I was at before it happened. Not too shabby considering I moved down a level to recuperate.
I'll be posting my monthly graph in here after my monster grind session today. Pretty much I can afford to lose 5 BI's and still be fine as long as I clear 4k hands since I have a prop bet going for # of hands this month. Shouldn't be a problem though and I'm pretty eager to get it done, its been a lot of pressure (positive pressure) but pressure nonetheless and I'm ready to relax.
Thats about it, will post in less than 19 hours. Later! |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 5:07am Post subject:
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Well, I would post my graph, but my internet crashed earlier, and I'm way to farkin lazy right now. It's in the BC if ur really that interested.
Heres a quick overview of April:
- Hit silverstar first time ever
- Played 40k+ hands (most ever)
- Made $369 in cash games alone (most ever)
- Took a shot and missed at 25nl (first time moving up there, and first time not succeeding in a move up)
- Happy with my play overall.
Now onto some new shit, aka May. Decided to 4 table 25nl, figure, its a new month, lets start things off right. I was going to knuckle down, play solid poker, take notes etc. Well, I did all that. I played tight aggressive poker. I only made one stupid bluff vs a station (dumb I know) that cost me 32bbs right before I ended sesh. (This is what me end it, I instantly knew afterwards that it was stupid, and therefore I wasn't playing my best.)
Anyways, did all that, played the cards dealt to me as well as I, personally, could have (imo). Still netted a 2 BI loss though. I'm not too terribly upset about it, I got coolered almost IMMEDIATELY after I started. AA < KK in a 4bet pot PF on a KKx board. AK < KK on an AKx two tone board. Both for 100bb stacks. Meh, I shrugged them off and got back to work. (Although, I'm going to post the AA<KK hand to see what others think in the BC, cuz I was kind of confused as to what to do.) I managed (through taking away pots when IP, and not spewing) to work my way back to -1 BI, but then I got unlucky with AK in a 3bet pot (didnt hit and villain shoved) a couple of times, and then that bluff at the end sealed it.
I'm going to try to set up a 25nl sweat session with someone who plays at or above it regularly, cuz jesus, I want to see if I'm really playing bad, or what. I don't feel I am, but I'd like some outside perspective. But anyways, all-in-all, not terribly upset with tonight. I'm gonna get right back on it tomorrow when I wake up and hopefully run a lil better. |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 9:55am Post subject:
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| Gratz on the good month. Keep it up! |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 10:40am Post subject:
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| dranger7070 wrote: | Heres a quick overview of April:
- Hit silverstar first time ever
- Played 40k+ hands (most ever)
- Made $369 in cash games alone (most ever)
- Took a shot and missed at 25nl (first time moving up there, and first time not succeeding in a move up)
- Happy with my play overall. |
Outstanding my friend. Keep it up and good luck in May. |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 5:27pm Post subject:
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| Thanks guys, yea April was pretty sicko lol. I hope May can match, if not be better, so I can leave on a good high note for boot camp. I would like to be solidly playing 25nl. Hoping to have a $1k BR by then is a bit of a stretch, but a man/boy can dream can't he? |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 5:42pm Post subject:
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| That's quite the dream for a man/boy like yourself. LOL @ man/boy. Sounds like a creature out of Greek mythology. |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 6:27pm Post subject:
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| hangchiong wrote: | | ill keep an eye on this | i'll keep an eye on your new avatar |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 6:28pm Post subject:
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oh, yeah, and i'm watching the thread, too
nh and glglgl |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 9:15pm Post subject:
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dranger I found myself thinking about you today. Have you heard the many stories of the POW's who were held in captivity for many years and many of them reported improving their hobbies such as golf while being held in POW camps. They accomplished this by playing there game everyday in their heads. They would visualize themselfs playing perfectly. They would picture the perfect grip, stance swing etc. doing it over and over in their minds.
Well you could do the same type of thing while your off to boot camp and training. Also you won't have much in the way of bills so start building your "Poker library". Make a prop bet with yourself that you can read x number of Poker Books while your off the felt.
Would be an interesting experiment for you to do. Submerge yourself in studying the game. Master ranges etc.
Just a little food for thought!
Hey Robb fyi my partner at work was a class mate of the drangers avatar irw! She's now married to one of his best buddys. |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 9:51pm Post subject:
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lol the man/boy thing was something i came up with (although I'm sure I've heard it somewhere...) while sitting here. I'm 19, so depending on who you talk to, I'm either a grown man (ppl younger than me), or boy (older ppl, parents, grandparents etc). Thought it was funny.
And nice to see Robb's hanging around. Gives me a lil inspiration to not give up and donk away my roll.
And thats interesting Harley. I have a buddy whos pretty hardcore about poker (he doesn't post on here often though...) and I was thinking about asking him to send me HH's in the mail while I'm at boot camp cuz we get some free time every Sunday, so I could definitely work on stuff even at boot. I'll also ask spoon on IRC for some advice in practicing ranges on paper and stuff. Who knows? Maybe I'll be even better when I come back.
Thanks for the support guys! |
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Posted: Fri, 01 May 2009, 10:20pm Post subject:
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| dranger7070 wrote: | | And nice to see Robb's hanging around. Gives me a lil inspiration to not give up and donk away my roll. |
lol
| dranger7070 wrote: | | I'll also ask spoon on IRC for some advice in practicing ranges on paper and stuff. Who knows? Maybe I'll be even better when I come back. |
Here's what I did.
1. Set up a scenario. Example. You're the preflop raiser in the CO with TT. You get a call from the BTN TAGG who's 22/18 (I play 6max - stats would be different at FR). What's his range? The flop is AQ4. You cbet, he calls. What's his range? Plan the hand from like you should at the tables, what you'll do on the turn brick, based on his range. What cards change the hand. What you think he'll do with each part of his range. Then what you'll do against a card that hits his range.
2. Write down the range you expect EXACTLY. Unpaired cards are 1.25%, pp's are 0.5%, etc. I don't like dealing with suited combos, so I just add 4 so it = 1.25% like the unpaired cards. After you get whatever percentage you like, add in at least 10% "junk," hands just worse than you expect to account for stats inaccuracy and opponent lunacy.
3. Use the way you would play the hand as a basis for how he should, and see if there any places you can exploit typical "TAGG" play.
4. Vary situation. How does this change if villain is 30/10? Hint: dramatically. How does this change if he's in the blinds and we have position? Vary the board and rerun all the flop scenarios. You can spend 3 or 4 hours on one situation.
For an example of #2, let's think about a 22/18 TAGG on the button. He's probably a bit positionally aware, so let's say he'll call with about 10% of his hands and 3bet AK/QQ+ 100%. His 3bet range is part of the "18," so we ditch those hands. (I can explain where the 10% came from later, but it's based on the gap between VP$P/PFR. Ask if interested, but think about what those stats mean, first.) Now we build a 10% range of hands he'll flat with. JJ - 22 is 10 hands x 0.5 = 5% (4.5% actually, but close enough). AJ, AQ, KQ and KJ is another 5%. Add in some "junk," say AT, JTs, QJs. You still leave some room 'cuz different villains play different cards different ways, but you go from there, throwing out hypothetical boards, thinking about how he'll react and which boards he's got no equity on.
Do this with common scenarios you know you'll face. Turn it around and make you the flat caller, and the TAGG is in the CO as PFR'r. What should 3bet? What should you fold? What should you flat? How do each of your hands play postflop when you're on the BTN? How do they play oop?
Work on 3bet scenarios. Those are great at 10nl and 25nl because the ranges are so narrow, and you can find boards/action that just can't have hit villain, so you'll know when you can rep AA and when you need to check behind.
Hope that helps. Just don't think about poker while shooting guns or anything, ok? |
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Posted: Sat, 02 May 2009, 7:59am Post subject:
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| dranger7070 wrote: | | I'll also ask spoon on IRC for some advice in practicing ranges on paper and stuff. Who knows? Maybe I'll be even better when I come back. |
Here's what I did.
1. Set up a scenario. Example. You're the preflop raiser in the CO with TT. You get a call from the BTN TAGG who's 22/18 (I play 6max - stats would be different at FR). What's his range? The flop is AQ4. You cbet, he calls. What's his range? Plan the hand from like you should at the tables, what you'll do on the turn brick, based on his range. What cards change the hand. What you think he'll do with each part of his range. Then what you'll do against a card that hits his range.
2. Write down the range you expect EXACTLY. Unpaired cards are 1.25%, pp's are 0.5%, etc. I don't like dealing with suited combos, so I just add 4 so it = 1.25% like the unpaired cards. After you get whatever percentage you like, add in at least 10% "junk," hands just worse than you expect to account for stats inaccuracy and opponent lunacy.
3. Use the way you would play the hand as a basis for how he should, and see if there any places you can exploit typical "TAGG" play.
4. Vary situation. How does this change if villain is 30/10? Hint: dramatically. How does this change if he's in the blinds and we have position? Vary the board and rerun all the flop scenarios. You can spend 3 or 4 hours on one situation.
For an example of #2, let's think about a 22/18 TAGG on the button. He's probably a bit positionally aware, so let's say he'll call with about 10% of his hands and 3bet AK/QQ+ 100%. His 3bet range is part of the "18," so we ditch those hands. (I can explain where the 10% came from later, but it's based on the gap between VP$P/PFR. Ask if interested, but think about what those stats mean, first.) Now we build a 10% range of hands he'll flat with. JJ - 22 is 10 hands x 0.5 = 5% (4.5% actually, but close enough). AJ, AQ, KQ and KJ is another 5%. Add in some "junk," say AT, JTs, QJs. You still leave some room 'cuz different villains play different cards different ways, but you go from there, throwing out hypothetical boards, thinking about how he'll react and which boards he's got no equity on.
Do this with common scenarios you know you'll face. Turn it around and make you the flat caller, and the TAGG is in the CO as PFR'r. What should 3bet? What should you fold? What should you flat? How do each of your hands play postflop when you're on the BTN? How do they play oop?
Work on 3bet scenarios. Those are great at 10nl and 25nl because the ranges are so narrow, and you can find boards/action that just can't have hit villain, so you'll know when you can rep AA and when you need to check behind.
Hope that helps. Just don't think about poker while shooting guns or anything, ok?[/quote]
Lol, deal.
Also, thanks a million Robb! Now I can actually do something constructive at work tonight instead of watching Step Brothers again lol. But seriously, thanks. I'll probably copy all this stuff down (so I know where to start at/how to get them going) and print it out or something and work on this tonight, and see if I can get this down somewhat before I go to boot, so I can HOPEFULLY work on it while I'm there. I don't see why I shouldn't, considering we get an hour (typically) before sleep for "free time" (i.e.: get your shit squared away for tomorrow, write home if you want) and like 2-3 hours on Sunday for the same + religious services (I'm not religious so I can do this while sitting in a church pew lol). |
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Post something if you come up with something specific. I'll critique it if you'd like, or we could start a thread about it. Also, watch hands in your PT3 or HEM replayer to get ideas. Before you leave, you can do this: find a TAGGish reg in your database, preferrably with > 1k hands. Sort based on "went to showdown = true" and "final pot > 40bb." That usually gets about 10 hands that play out over multiple streets.
Replay the hands with holecards NOT showing. Stop on each street to put both players on a range. Pause right before showdown. If you can narrow a TAGG villain's rang down to 5 or 6 combos - and get it right, you're doing awesome with hand reading. Once you see a particular scenario with players whose stats are "typical" of the types of opponents you face often, use it to start varying the board, the flop action, position and so forth. |
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Posted: Sun, 03 May 2009, 2:49pm Post subject:
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Jeez, I turn my head for 5 seconds and you make $450?
Nh sir. |
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Posted: Sun, 03 May 2009, 5:14pm Post subject:
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[x] standard sir lol.
Just finished my 2nd session for the day. They were both pretty short. I started up and played only 3 tables for both.
518 hands +2 BI's. + I got paid from lockpull for prop bet, so BR looking good.
Stars is having this thing for may where for 500 fpps you can get $8 directly deposited into your BR, another one for 1,000 that gets you $16 ($24 total) and ANOTHER one at 10k fpps for $160. I doubt ill get the 10k fpps (only 400 in my account right now ) but I can easily get the other two imo and ill def try for the $160, but its not likely.
Other then that, nothing new. Haven't slept in about 20 hours, so time for some sleeps. Night all! |
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Posted: Sun, 03 May 2009, 5:39pm Post subject:
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| dranger7070 wrote: | | Stars is having this thing for may where for 500 fpps you can get $8 directly deposited into your BR, another one for 1,000 that gets you $16 ($24 total) and ANOTHER one at 10k fpps for $160. I doubt ill get the 10k fpps (only 400 in my account right now ) but I can easily get the other two imo and ill def try for the $160, but its not likely. |
Whoa whoa...where'd you hear about this?
Edit: Wait, just found it in the store. PokerStars has to tell us about these things! |
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