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Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 4:31pm Post subject: Play along with me v.A
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4-of-a-Kind
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The only reads that I'm aware of are that villain hasn't gotten out of line that... that I know of. I have no stats so you'll have to play the guessing game with me like I usually do.
I'm going to ask what to do and if the answer is bet, then how much?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($200)
UTG ($40)
UTG+1 ($259.70)
MP1 ($210.15)
MP2 ($197)
MP3 ($37.25)
CO ($226)
Button ($422.85)
Hero (SB) ($681.40)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J , A
6 folds, Button calls $2, Hero ?????, |
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Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 5:57pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| $12, limp against multiple guys |
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Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 7:29pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 11:17pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 7:21am Post subject:
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Full House
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raise to $10
betting is on the flop, newbie. |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 4:28pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, Button calls $10
What range are we putting villain on here? Should still be very wide.
Flop: ($26) 9 , 10, A (2 players)
Hero ?????? |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 4:57pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| His range is huge, we still have no clue so bet $18 |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 6:17pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 6:25pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | | $14-$19 |
sounds good |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 6:30pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| if the flop didnt contain a ton of gutterballs I could be inclined to knock it back and try to get 1-2 streets on the turn and/or river. |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 6:59pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Hero bets $12, Button calls $12
Turn: ($50) J (2 players)
Hero ????????, |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 7:07pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 8:09pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 3:09pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($200)
UTG ($40)
UTG+1 ($259.70)
MP1 ($210.15)
MP2 ($197)
MP3 ($37.25)
CO ($226)
Button ($422.85)
Hero (SB) ($681.40)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A
6 folds, Button calls $2, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, Button calls $10
Flop: ($26) 9, 10, A (2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button calls $12
Turn: ($50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $32, Button raises to $102,
Hero ????????? |
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 3:55pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Shove, I am not ecstatic but you are ahead of his range for this. |
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 4:07pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| yeah id still definitely shove, plenty of worse 2 pairs in his range. |
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 4:24pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| no one noticed they are 200BB+ deep? |
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 4:26pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | | no one noticed they are 200BB+ deep? | |
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 4:32pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| So you bet less than half the pot on the flop and now you're concerned that the stack-to-pot ratio is too high to shove here? As played, call I guess. |
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 4:56pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| mcatdog wrote: | | So you bet less than half the pot on the flop and now you're concerned that the stack-to-pot ratio is too high to shove here? |
yes |
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 5:28pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Whoa I'm sorry I did not see the stack sizes. I think I call here. Not sure about river yet |
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 8:45pm Post subject:
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I fold, but I'm a sissy.
The only read you have on your opponent is that he's not been playing out of line, yet he's up one buy in at this table. This makes me give him credit for having a hand, probably a set of 9's or 10's. |
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Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 9:41pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 May 2008
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| yeah same, didnt notice the stack sizes at all, i call and reevaluate river, though tbh im not folding much unless the river is a very bad scare card and villain is still very keen on his hand. |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Oct 2008, 1:55am Post subject:
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($200)
UTG ($40)
UTG+1 ($259.70)
MP1 ($210.15)
MP2 ($197)
MP3 ($37.25)
CO ($226)
Button ($422.85)
Hero (SB) ($681.40)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A
6 folds, Button calls $2, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, Button calls $10
Flop: ($26) 9, 10, A (2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button calls $12
Turn: ($50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $32, Button raises to $102, Hero calls $70
River: ($254) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $96, Hero ???????? |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Oct 2008, 2:17am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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River: ($254) Q (2 players)
Hero checks
You definitely should have posted this check as a decision point. Turning your hand into a bluff by open-shoving a queen or king river might be a good idea, it beats the hell out of check-call. |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Oct 2008, 5:07am Post subject:
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Full House
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Posted: Fri, 03 Oct 2008, 12:06pm Post subject:
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i wouldn't mind a change...
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The Q doesn't really kill your hand if you think you were ahead on this turn. I doubt the opponent raises AQ/AK on this turn regardless and if he had KQ then you were smoked on the turn anyway.
This river though makes me want to fold because this looks like a value bet and I think he's no longer betting AT/A9 here. Mcat's line of shoving this Q >>> check/call because of his value betting range on this river. |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Oct 2008, 12:36pm Post subject:
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High Card
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Limped/Called PF = smells like small pocket pair
smooth call flop from a player that doesn't get out of line, possible monster
turn gives flush draw and he raises
value bet the river
he's got a set or played it to look like a set or backed into a straight but thats unlikely since he's a decent player. I think I have to call here since I'm getting 3:1 and I'm not using PT3 |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Oct 2008, 2:25pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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this hand is gross 
I def think this is either c/f or shove, I don't like c/c at all here. |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Oct 2008, 3:50pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| mcatdog wrote: | River: ($254) Q (2 players)
Hero checks
You definitely should have posted this check as a decision point. |
yeah i forgot to do that
good advice in this thread btw |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Oct 2008, 2:03am Post subject:
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Full House
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| i think b/c on the turn is pretty bad. Fold there is not a big mistake given the possibilities of straights and sets IMO. As played, i fold to his river value bet and hate my life. |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Oct 2008, 6:14am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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| id c/f river, we just beat a bluff, he's checking back most of his range which has SD value |
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