party have got their shit together

non-US players should definitely look into playing Party again.
They've basically copied the stars reward system, but even better.

Right now I'm clearing Bonus at about 45% effective Rakeback + getting points that i will be able to buy cash bonuses with (or SnG/Tourney tokens at about 15-20% RB equivalent).

as for the players? who knows, probably stars is becoming the softest player pool around just cos of marketing. But all sites are soft at 50nl and below.

They also have a decent first deposit Bonus in place again, not sure what the clear rate is - but probably pretty quick.

Cheers Daven; I had a look through their site and it seems that they are updating it again at the end of June and are claiming its 40% rb equivalent; if you hit a high enough level...

http://www.partypoker.com/rewards/enhanced_rewards.html

Does anyone who plays there now know roughly how quickly the points clear at different levels?
Edit: Sorry I'm dumb 10 per 25 raked hands I can do some rough sums Embarassed

Hmm, interesting. Whats the play like at 100nl+ anyone know?

I read something about Party trying to take over Everest, which would make the player pool great and the horrible Everest software go away

guess i should have taken all of 10 seconds to read the shit they send me via snail mail

Edit: btw is this the same for Empire as well (my countdown to BBJ win is shorter on their Smile

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If this works out as they say I could see me giving up on iPoker for this. Many more tables during my play times.

I hope that will go through. I would definitely give that a try.

RTR just screwed with their Bonus scheme on Everest and I've never played on Party. If its not some kind of nitfest I might move.

*Last edited by bjsaust on Tue, 23 Jun 2009, 10:17pm; edited 1 time in total*

flick me a pm with your e-mail address if you want a refer-a-friend Bonus hook-up. No Rakeback available via party (as per stars) and it doesn't affect first deposit Bonus etc...

Daven, I am interested in Party for sure. Let me know how this month works out for you as far as payments, stakes and hands in relation to rake paid. If party has their shit together I will move there at the start of the month for sure after I finish this couple of races on iPoker. I have an account already for several years and have moved there when nothing is available on other sites since there are many more tables available in my timezone compared to most Euro sites when I play. $50NL at iPoker has about 8-15 tables most nights when I play. (EST) Party is closer to 25 or more. $100NL on iPoker has 3 times the tables and 4 times the fish.

I always leave Party for some easy RB/rake race/bonus becasue their system has always sucked.

I just signed up and deposited. I'm surprised theres not more nit-grinders there than people suggest. Points are earned (from what I can work out) on hands played, not even on rake, so I'm a little surprised theres not a pile of FR nits passing blinds around buying these bonuses, but then maybe the limit of 12 tables cuts that down, and people I've heard from are mainly 6-max.

and heres to those who thought 10ptbbs/100 was dead - party here i come!

So what scripts/skins are being used on the new Party software? FPHG still work? Party Planner? I will try them tonight but if I can save myself some time by asking I won't bother downloading and fiddling with them.

New cash/bonuses released now. It really looks like you're better off saving points until you make Palladium, even though that takes 3 months (if you can earn points fast enough). At 9k points over 3 months, need 3k points per month. So at:

50nl -> 20,100 hands per month
100nl -> 12,000 hands per month
200nl -> 7,500 hands per month.

Palladium Elite would of course be cool, but multiply all those amounts by 4.5 for hands per month to qualify (so 30k hands at 200nl some folks could make, a fair while off for me).

At that point you can buy a $1,200 Bonus for 10k points which clears at around 24% Rakeback, or a $3,000 Bonus for 20k points which clears at around 30% Rakeback.

The thing that gets me is they clear much faster than you can afford them. So if you spend 10k points on a $1,200 Bonus, it only costs 2.5k points to clear it. Then you need to earn another 7.5k points before you can buy another one. I'm not sure if thats factored into the theoretical Rakeback % or not?

Wow. Please keep me updated on how this works out guys.. I might shift my roll there and turn Party into my main grindhouse if this comes out as ~25%+ for a SSNL player.

just been promoted to silver but other than different Bonus structures I can't find any value in what silver brings.

Basically it unlocks store cash/bonuses that arent available for bronze members.

If you go to PartyPoints - Store - Cash & Bonuses, you'll notice a key next to each one. Thats the level you need to be to purchase it. So you're silver now, you can buy either the $50 cash for 1500 points, or the $100 Bonus for 1500 points. If you have 4,000 points though, you still cant buy the gold $200 cash or $350 Bonus, even though you have enough points to.

if I have 4K points that's 3K above the requirement for gold so NP

Yeah, but thats monthly. I mean if say you'd earnt 900 points for the last 5 months, so were only silver member but had 4k points, you couldnt buy the gold Bonus. Thats the only real advantage of the different levels, they unlock store items you otherwise couldnt buy even if you could afford the points.

I think the Palladium and Elite sometimes get special offers, or like parties or such, but I cant see that being much use for me or you, maybe some Euros will.

i think you can get boosted to palladium if you earn 5k points in one month? 9k a quarter.
Once I'm back in NZ and playing heaps I'm thinking about grinding three sites. Maintain supernova at Stars, Iron Man at FT, and palladium at party. Play whichever has the best offers that month.

Those are the hands required to reach Palladium level, and at palladium level you can qualify to purchase bonuses which they say give you that Rakeback equivalent.

Bit frustrated today. Yesterday I deposited the rest of my roll onto Party. Sometime overnight I recieved a 25% reload Bonus offer code in email up to $250. Maybe I'll try emailing them and see if I can still qualify late Sad

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For those of you that play party how many tables of 5/10 or 3/6 run during peak hours if you don't mind me asking? What about 10/20+?

Havnt looked. I'll check randomly over the next few days and let you know.

09:00EDT atm, I only checked 6 max tables.

25/50 - a 4/6 table and a 6/6 with 2 waiting.
10/20 - a 2/6 table and a 6/6 with 3 waiting.
5/10 - 2 5/6 tables and 3 6/6 tables 5 waiting on 1 and 2 on another.
3/6 - 2 6/6 tables with 3 and 1 waiting.

They all have at least one 1/6 table as well.

Use www.pokerscout.com. I love that site for checking out traffic.

TY everybody. Not quite the volume to warrant switching sites.

One last one which should be more peak time 19:00 EDT

25/50 - 1 3/6, 2 4/6 and 2 6/6 both with wait lists
10/20 - a 3/6 and a 6/6
5/10 - 13 6/6 with wait lists on most
3/6 - 13 6/6 with at least 1 waiting on most.

that's some decent traffic....

Maybe more importantly, there are several tables of 200NL and up with more than 20% of the players seeing a flop, including one 6-max 1000NL table running at 47%!

Really? So even a CO or BTN steal, or a 3bet wont get raked if it doesnt see a flop? I guess we need an average number of hands that saw flop then.

This month I have approx 16k hands played and of those 9k have seen the flop, so about 56%. That means nearly doubling the hands played from what I had above Sad

Lol, I played 17k hands total, and I think thats 3k more than my previous high mark. I'll need 200nl to go well to make Palladium I think, and the Bonus below that suck in comparision, so lets hope it does!

I agree not being raked on those hands is actually better than being raked and earning points, its just disappointing that my estimated hands required were so far off as a result.

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