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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 9:24am Post subject: PAHud vs. Gametime |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 100
WPP: 60
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Hi, guys! I wonder how many of you use PAHud and if it is worth buying it because as I look, it doesn't seem different than Gametime which I use.
It might be a stupid question (I might have missed some important options of PAHud) but thanks for the responses anyway. |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 10:19am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 04 Jul 2006
Posts: 4604
WPP: 81
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| FWIW I use Gametime and am about to switch to PAHUD, from want I have come to realize it is just more compatible with PT especially at UB (which is where I play right now) |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 10:30am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 2839
WPP: 110
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| Night and day. resizable windows, no problem, stats goe here instead of here, no problem. New guy sits down, new stat same hand, no problem. different colours for different %%'s, no problem. |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 10:37am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 100
WPP: 60
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| So you say it is better than Gametime? You said that stats go here instead of here so you don't have to move them to the players (that is what I have to do - if there is a way to fix that please tell ). Is it worth the money then? |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 10:40am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 2839
WPP: 110
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| PaHud is worth twice as much, Don't tell them though. The stats in PaHud stay where "you put them' when you resize the windows. It has a trial period. Try it. |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 11:32am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Posts: 776
WPP: 120
Location: Hartford, CT
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| I dont think game time shows you on the screen what your op Mucked, PuHud does, this is my favorite feature |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 3:58pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 3560
WPP: 61
Location: TAGfishery
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Posted: Mon, 15 Jan 2007, 9:43am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 100
WPP: 60
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Thanks for reminding me of a trial period for PAHud. I almost forgot about that.
Is it worth getting Poker Office if I have Poker Tracker? I heard it is almost the same. |
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Posted: Mon, 15 Jan 2007, 10:53am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Posts: 909
WPP: 109
Location: 45 man turboaments
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| how valuable for tourneys are PT/PA hud and/or Poker Office? |
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Posted: Mon, 15 Jan 2007, 11:07am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 3560
WPP: 61
Location: TAGfishery
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IMO, PokerOffice is just easier to use because it has a built in grapher and HUD which is the same as PAHud except it places the stats automatically and you cant use colors. I have never had a problem when it comes to stats on the tables.
PO2 = $79.00 and PAHud = $25, so its more $$ but i love it because its all one program.
RE: Jdubs, i really cant comment on how valueable it is for tournies. I used it when i played SnG's, but they were turbos so the stats meant almost nothing. |
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Posted: Mon, 15 Jan 2007, 12:31pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6480
WPP: 66
Location: Somewhere in middle america
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| Quote: | | how valuable for tourneys are PT/PA hud and/or Poker Office? |
it depends. How much do you like me yelling at you after you post?
IMO (many differ!), most tourney players who use HUDs use them as an excuse for weak tight play. Given the constantly changing situations in a tourney, even if you accumulate a decent sample you won't get much out of it. If you sit with someome for more than a few tourneys, you should be able to get a decent read without HUD, if not HUD wasn't helping you anyway. |
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Posted: Mon, 15 Jan 2007, 1:24pm Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 136
WPP: 232
Location: Ft. Worth, Tejas
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| drmcboy wrote: | | IMO (many differ!), most tourney players who use HUDs use them as an excuse for weak tight play. |
I believe you are probably right, but please explain. |
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Posted: Mon, 15 Jan 2007, 5:44pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 3001
WPP: 92
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PA is much better than gametime. If you are playing at anything close to 25NL then it doesnt have to add much to your BB/100 to pay for itself.
I find its alot more comfortable to use and the colour coding is nice too. |
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Posted: Tue, 16 Jan 2007, 12:58am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6480
WPP: 66
Location: Somewhere in middle america
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woody - I see posts now and then where people seek to justify folding huge hands based on some super small sample size. They hate that sometimes when you have KK someone has AA, or has AK and will draw out, and that you often have to take flips when there is money in the pot. So they pray they can look up at their HUD and see a 4/1 or something and be blinded off instead of playing JJ against a 'tight' MP raiser.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/poker-49092.htm
we make a read based on 26 hands and opt to fold a monster, given low stack.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/poker-49389.htm
This one was just goofy.
These are just examples, I put some more thoughts above in ginger's post but the point is, making a decision that is SUBSTANTIALLY different from typical play based on the sample you are likely to have on most villians just doesn't work for me. If I saw people posting stuff with 500 hands behind it I'd feel better, but that is uncommon in SNG land and almost unheard of in MTT world. And if 200 of those hands are at 150/300 or more when opp had a huge stack, and you're playing 25/50 against him as a shorty... |
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Posted: Tue, 16 Jan 2007, 3:29am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 100
WPP: 60
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| Bode-ist wrote: | IMO, PokerOffice is just easier to use because it has a built in grapher and HUD which is the same as PAHud except it places the stats automatically and you cant use colors. I have never had a problem when it comes to stats on the tables.
PO2 = $79.00 and PAHud = $25, so its more $$ but i love it because its all one program.
RE: Jdubs, i really cant comment on how valueable it is for tournies. I used it when i played SnG's, but they were turbos so the stats meant almost nothing. |
So Poker Office actually has PAHud in it? But isn't a waste of money to have two different and almost the same programs, like Poker Tracker and Poker Office? Bode-ist, you have them both? If you do, can you compare them a little bit, please? |
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Posted: Tue, 16 Jan 2007, 7:06am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 3560
WPP: 61
Location: TAGfishery
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they are exactly the same programe except that Poker Office has a built in HUD and grapher whereas PT needs add ons. There is virtually no difference in the statistical functions.
I prefer PO because i only have to have 1 extra program running and because it has a more user freindly interface. that being said, many people prefer PT for other reasons. The reason PT is the more popular program is it has simply been around longer. |
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Posted: Tue, 16 Jan 2007, 1:35pm Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2006
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WPP: 60
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Posted: Tue, 16 Jan 2007, 2:50pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 3560
WPP: 61
Location: TAGfishery
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| no, i use Poker Office only. i like it much better because its an all-in-one package. |
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Posted: Sat, 17 Mar 2007, 6:23pm Post subject: |
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One Pair
Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 15
WPP: 180
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I was looking at Poker Office and it says it is $79/year.
So that means every year you pay $79 for it, right?
What about Poker Tracker and PaHUD... do you have to keep renewing them? |
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Posted: Sat, 17 Mar 2007, 7:20pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 523
WPP: 104
Location: Bangor UK
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| I turned off HUD and my win rate went up. It is gay. |
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Posted: Mon, 19 Mar 2007, 7:22pm Post subject: |
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One Pair
Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 15
WPP: 180
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| Bait wrote: | I was looking at Poker Office and it says it is $79/year.
So that means every year you pay $79 for it, right?
What about Poker Tracker and PaHUD... do you have to keep renewing them? |
any one? |
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Posted: Mon, 19 Mar 2007, 7:45pm Post subject: |
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Two Pair
Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Posts: 28
WPP: 65
Location: Cudjoe Key, FL
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No annual fee for PAHud or PT. One time, until the next major revision. That doesn't appear to be coming anytime soon.
Each one has a trial version. Try them all and see which you prefer. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Apr 2007, 9:13pm Post subject: |
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Life Donk
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
Posts: 1687
WPP: 89
Location: Having a J. Arthur
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| One thing that should be added here is that GT+ supports a few sites that PAHUD doesn't, Paradise and the iPoker network comes to mind. PAHUD is a much better program though, so I use that for the sites that support it and GT+ on sites that don't. |
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