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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 1:28am Post subject: OT: What's the worst player you've found on Sharkscope?
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 9476
WPP: 127
Location: Sydney
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Sorry for an off topic thread, but what's the worst opponent that you've found on sharkscope? My worst had lost $5,500, and that was $5-$10 at a time! There were also quite a few others who had done $2,000++ - mostly just down in a straight line, without any positive "variance".
Invariably you see these guys trying to recoup their losses at a higher level, often at the $55s or even $109s, or digging themselves a bigger hole by taking a shot at the $20/180s.
If you had these sorts of results, you'd wonder why you wouldn't realise at least one the following:
- Maybe I should spend 5-10% of what I've lost buying some books and learning how to play the game
- Maybe I should do a google search for Poker Strategy?
- Take a small % of my losses and find a poker coach
- I suck at poker, I'd be better off playing chess/backgammon/scrabble/tiddlywinks, whatever
- I have a serious gambling problem and need to attend GA |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 1:46am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Posts: 944
WPP: 108
Location: California
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| I know its sad isnt it? I am glad I disovered sharkscope though, it rocks! ever notice when you sit down to a 180, the whole table usually has a little goldfish swimming around next to their name? but some of those folks have lost alot of money!!! I almost feel bad for them... |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 3:10am Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4381
WPP: 117
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 3:25am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 9476
WPP: 127
Location: Sydney
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| www.sharkscope.com - although it isn't 100% accurate, it claims to have captured the results of over 8 million PS and CryptoLogic SNGs. Try it - 5 free searches per day. |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 3:27am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 12 Apr 2006
Posts: 103
WPP: 99
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| Seems pretty accurate on my stats, as Tai said i think its just SnG's though not tourney or ring. |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 3:34am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 9476
WPP: 127
Location: Sydney
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| Whenever I play somebody who plays just so badly that you think "OMG how can they be so moronic?" (like people with 80%+ VPIP the whole tourney, or idiots who call AI bets with jack high) I look them up and 95% of the time the stats confirm my reads. |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 5:35am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 1240
WPP: 111
Location: Following the Herd to 6-Max Land
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I quite like Sharkscope.
My stats seem pretty accurate on there. (Just to give him a bit of kudos, check out TLR's stats ... forty2u ... impressive!)
I also paid the $8 for 200 searches (on top of the 5 free a day) so I run a SS search on all my opponents whilst I'm waiting for it to start. I have seen some uuuuber fish about.
Will have a look when I get home from work and report back! |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 10:33am Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4381
WPP: 117
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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| Interesting. I don't really know if mine are accurate seeing as I didn't keep stats for the first year I played (and was a pretty bad player). I must have done pretty bad without keeping track because according to this site, I haven't made much money at all. |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 11:45am Post subject:
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Season III
Joined: 20 Aug 2005
Posts: 1779
WPP: 124
Location: Winning 1 of 1 games
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| These do seem pretty accurate (and for me, depressing) |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 12:13pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7834
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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| ive played 5-10 $215s the past few weeks and the cards havent been so good. it makes my stats from all the sngs i played on there look not so good. |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 12:13pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7834
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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| on the 'form' why does it say Super tilt?? wtf? |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 2:13pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 1240
WPP: 111
Location: Following the Herd to 6-Max Land
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lol!
You can change all that. Go to "preferences" and switch it to the "WLPWL" style. Super tilt means you haven't cashed in 8 straight.
You can also adjust the "Shark" and "Fish" settings - i.e. increase the sample size, adjust the %'s to define shark and fish. |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 3:02pm Post subject:
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Two Pair
Joined: 24 Sep 2005
Posts: 30
WPP: 58
Location: Essex, UK
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| worst player = me probably. My ROI has dropped 13% over the last 49 tournies :/ |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 10:23pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 1177
WPP: 77
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| didn't know about this. I'm looking pretty good though... |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 10:52pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Posts: 1117
WPP: 67
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| man this is a little of for my SNG's no idea why though...but still looking good, too bad I have such a small sample size tthough |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 10:59pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Posts: 1117
WPP: 67
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| guys do a search for michaeel1123, hes negative lol, but only 1k and i guess at the stakes he plays thats braking even...but still I thought he was way up there in profits |
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Posted: Mon, 08 May 2006, 11:30pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 4631
WPP: 65
Location: Stars $16 and $27 Sngs
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Posted: Tue, 09 May 2006, 4:34am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Posts: 944
WPP: 108
Location: California
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| elanto wrote: | | guys do a search for michaeel1123, hes negative lol, but only 1k and i guess at the stakes he plays thats braking even...but still I thought he was way up there in profits |
its because he just started playing 2 and 5Ks (yikes!) and seems to be on a down swing.. man can u imagine having a bankroll for that??? |
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Posted: Tue, 09 May 2006, 4:52am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 1240
WPP: 111
Location: Following the Herd to 6-Max Land
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| elanto wrote: | | man this is a little of for my SNG's no idea why though |
How long u been playing on Stars? I think the sample only runs back to early '05? |
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Posted: Tue, 09 May 2006, 7:41am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 24 Jan 2005
Posts: 5409
WPP: 60
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Posted: Tue, 09 May 2006, 8:46am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
Posts: 311
WPP: 86
Location: Australia
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| Cool site. Very very nice stats TLR! |
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Posted: Tue, 09 May 2006, 6:43pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 2911
WPP: 107
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| Oh, that was depressing. -4% ROI. But only 130 SNGs! Yay?!?!?? |
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Posted: Tue, 09 May 2006, 6:49pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Posts: 1117
WPP: 67
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Posted: Tue, 09 May 2006, 11:25pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 4631
WPP: 65
Location: Stars $16 and $27 Sngs
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Posted: Wed, 10 May 2006, 3:12pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Posts: 1779
WPP: 141
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| Most ive seen is -$40k, it was posted in a thread about this over at 2+2 |
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Posted: Wed, 10 May 2006, 3:17pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4381
WPP: 117
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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| andy-akb wrote: | | Most ive seen is -$40k, it was posted in a thread about this over at 2+2 |
-$40k?!?!?!?!?!!?! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? |
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Posted: Thu, 11 May 2006, 2:41am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 1177
WPP: 77
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Oh, that was you. Thanks for the suckout.  |
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Posted: Thu, 11 May 2006, 3:07am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 4631
WPP: 65
Location: Stars $16 and $27 Sngs
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Anyday...
Sorry for that, wrong time to blindsteal... |
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Posted: Tue, 23 May 2006, 7:49am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 12 Apr 2006
Posts: 103
WPP: 99
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Worst player ive ever played against is this guy:
dnd007
Games: 585
ROI: -30%
Income: -$5,904
Super Tilt
PokerStars
VPIP: 75%
PF Raise: 60%
Interesting...
I mean come on, wouldnt you stop playing and take up say.. reading? Its gotta be less expensive.. |
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Posted: Tue, 23 May 2006, 10:53am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 1066
WPP: 192
Location: Melbourne
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wow! nice find!
Didn't know my stats were as good as they said... looks like the return to SNGs for a short stint was justified.
Why on earth do I bother keeping my own stats? |
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Posted: Tue, 23 May 2006, 9:48pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Posts: 944
WPP: 108
Location: California
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| recently I was at a table where , no shit, 7 players had ROI between -25 and -50, with hundreds (if not thousands) of games played. It boggles the mind! |
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Posted: Tue, 23 May 2006, 9:59pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Posts: 944
WPP: 108
Location: California
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how bout this guy?
10rick (PokerStars)
games played: 991
average profit -5$
avg stake. 11$
avg. ROI -49%
total profit: -5,039$ |
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Posted: Tue, 23 May 2006, 10:02pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4381
WPP: 117
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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| How can people continue to keep playing? |
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Posted: Tue, 23 May 2006, 10:11pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 9476
WPP: 127
Location: Sydney
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I think they just don't realise the extent of their losses.
Somebody on 2+2 made a good point, when these guys suck out on you DON'T tell the table that they've lost $x thousand and that sort of play is why - you don't want them realising the awful truth then stopping donating their money. |
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Posted: Wed, 24 May 2006, 12:38am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Posts: 944
WPP: 108
Location: California
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| good point..... I usually keep quiet, and sometimes give someone respect in the chat when they have really good stats- usually dont say anything to the poor souls who have lost x thousand. |
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Posted: Wed, 24 May 2006, 1:43am Post subject:
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Two Pair
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 30
WPP: 65
Location: Arlington, VA
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Chris Moneymaker owns
Username games Av. Av. Average Profit
played Profit Stake ROI
Money800 62 -$83 $307 -8% -$5,177 |
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Posted: Wed, 24 May 2006, 11:01am Post subject:
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Two Pair
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 41
WPP: 366
Location: Rochester, NY
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6tours4lance:
GP: 1122 Av Prft: -$5 Stake: $11 ROI: -%33 Profit: -$5518 
I cringed when I saw this dudes name when the tourney first started so I had to check him on Scope. Unreal. |
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Posted: Sat, 17 Jun 2006, 2:21pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 598
WPP: 175
Location: Dundee - Scotland
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just a quick point...
Why do none of these tools like PT and sharkscope etc cater for the VC site?
I play most of my poker on VC (thats about to change though now iv found these tools lol) and was just wondering if anyone knew why these tools dont work on this site.
regards |
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Posted: Sat, 17 Jun 2006, 3:27pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 21 Jan 2005
Posts: 1120
WPP: 128
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| Random_Hero wrote: | just a quick point...
Why do none of these tools like PT and sharkscope etc cater for the VC site?
I play most of my poker on VC (thats about to change though now iv found these tools lol) and was just wondering if anyone knew why these tools dont work on this site.
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The site needs to have good hand histories... (I'm not sure if VC has reasonable hand histories or not) But without good hand histories, the programs cant import... Also, for programs like sharkscope then need to have public MTT/SnG results. |
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Posted: Sat, 17 Jun 2006, 3:37pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 598
WPP: 175
Location: Dundee - Scotland
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ok cheers...
looks like its time to change sites lol...
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Posted: Sun, 18 Jun 2006, 2:33am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 3462
WPP: 153
Location: Ellicott City, MD
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| My stats actually seem a little higher than I expected. Anyone know what the exact time frame for this is? |
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Posted: Sun, 18 Jun 2006, 7:23am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 1240
WPP: 111
Location: Following the Herd to 6-Max Land
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| Stars - started Feb '05, with full coverage since Jan '06. |
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Posted: Sun, 18 Jun 2006, 10:43am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 21 Jan 2005
Posts: 1120
WPP: 128
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| JeffreyGB wrote: | | My stats actually seem a little higher than I expected. Anyone know what the exact time frame for this is? |
I know that mine is way off.. It shows my up less than 3k on stars... and thats way off. |
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Posted: Wed, 21 Jun 2006, 6:36pm Post subject:
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High Card
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 11
WPP: 40
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Try looking up:
ElkY (the first player to reach supernova status on PokerStars)
The Grinder |
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Posted: Wed, 21 Jun 2006, 6:59pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4381
WPP: 117
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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| ilikeaces is a big fan of ElkY. |
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Posted: Wed, 21 Jun 2006, 7:06pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 2911
WPP: 107
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| I hate sharkoscope. It reminds me that I don't beat the rake. However, my sample size is so smalll, I could literally win 4 $27s in a row to cover my rake losses. |
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Posted: Wed, 21 Jun 2006, 7:07pm Post subject:
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High Card
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 11
WPP: 40
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| Can someone please look up 'ElkY' and 'the grinder' and post results (i have used my 5 free for today) |
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Posted: Wed, 21 Jun 2006, 7:13pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 20 Dec 2003
Posts: 1943
WPP: 78
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Sorry, I burned my 5 before I could search the grinder.
ElkY 4,860 -$10 $408 3% -$47,090 - PokerStars |
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Posted: Wed, 21 Jun 2006, 7:16pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 Dec 2005
Posts: 95
WPP: 151
Location: Statesboro, GA
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| Code: | Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI Total Profit Form Network Filter
ElkY 4,860 -$10 $408 3% -$47,090 - PokerStars x | |
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Posted: Wed, 21 Jun 2006, 8:04pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4381
WPP: 117
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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| The Grinder 347 -$217 $3,197 0% -$75,365 - PokerStars |
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Restricted FTR $200 Freeroll at FullTilt on November 23rd
