Operation STOP SUCKING AT POKER ! ! ! !

*Last edited by wesrman on Sat, 19 Jan 2008, 10:35pm; edited 3 times in total*

Ok, i realize that no one really cares whether or not i suck at poker. I'm new here and most people don't even know that i exist, let alone care if i get better or just eventually get sick of losing/breaking even and quit poker for ever (which i don't plan on letting happen because i love it).

This is not to say that the people i have met here haven't been really nice and very helpfull to me, because they have, but i'm playing super low stakes ($5 NLHE and .10/.20 stud 8) and it isn't nearly as exciting as reading about Spoon going for Super Nova Elite or what ever you call it...lol

I'm doing this to force myself to be accountable for my actions and really take poker seriously. I think if i have to post my results (good or bad) and analyze my every move. It will, along with all of the info here, make me a better player.

I don't want to go on playing and never get any better. So if i have to embarass myself by posting that i lost money at the .02/.05 NLHE tables and post a hand with a horrible call i made even though i knew i was beat (both of which happened today..lol), then so be it. I'm gonna do what ever it takes to improve.

I've only been playing poker for a few months and i have MUCH to learn.
If there are any other newbs out there that would like to share info and discuss stuff as we progress, let me know.

Thanks in advance to everyone here for all of the great info, advice and help. Not to mention the stuff in the commune. That place is an instant tilt killer. I almost pissed myself when i read the "do you stand or sit" post.

Bank Roll $117.89
Wes...

*Last edited by wesrman on Fri, 18 Jan 2008, 9:59am; edited 1 time in total*

Day 1- $5NL
Hands played: 561
Profit/Loss: +$6.11
Flops seen: 114
% of flops seen: 20.3%
Big Blinds won: 120
PTBB won: 60
ptbb/100h: 10.69

If any of this looks wrong please tell me ! ! ! !

Bankroll $124.. not as much as proper BR
management says to have so if anything starts to go wrong i will drop down to $2NL.

Not a bad day. $6 isn't much, but i guess the win rate of ptbb/100 hands isn't bad.
I have to start to look at it like: if i was playing at a table where the blinds were bigger i would have made a decent profit.

I would appreciate any input, advice or comments anyone has.
Positive or negative.

Your right, i guess if i'm gonna do it, i may as well do it right.

BUT

Does proper BRM go buy 20 times the max buy or what???

Forget learning poker, i'm gonna have a brain aneurysm trying to figure all this shit out..lol

Thanks i appreciated it and please do ! ! ! !
Cuz i need it.

How about answering my question about BR ????
I've been told 4 different things. Ok maybe 2 different things but u get my point..lol

just move up following the 20BI rule, thats quite enough until u hit 100NL.

My plan so far was

$16 (lol) - 200 for 2nl
$200 - $500 - for 10NL (no 5nl at Everest Sad

)
$500 - $1k for 50NL
$1k - $5k for 100NL

Nowadays you´ll here a lot of guys recommending a bit deeper roll, since post UIGEA games became more aggresive and less fishy. However, with >$100 you should move up to build you roll as fast as possible. Make sure to move back down when you hit $100 again and everything will be fine.

lol... maybe i'm too stupid to play poker.

I'm going with $5 Nl and only buying in for 100BB.
Which gives me the more than 20 times the buy in.

Your fine at $5NL, jsut don't buy in over $5 at the start. Also, watch the table stacks, and don't allow a 200BB stack be in danger when your having a good run. There is nothing worse than spending 2 hr's grinding a tidy profit, only to see some guy buy in for $10 and shove over your AA with KJo and suckout your whole days effort. Yea, we want that most of the time, but when grinding a BR, it's going to do more harm than good sitting at a table with 200BB's. I am not saying leave as soon as you get there, but be aware that the whole stack is in play if someone has you covered.

Consider yourself SMACKED ...lol

*Last edited by wesrman on Sat, 19 Jan 2008, 11:04pm; edited 1 time in total*

Day #2- $5NL- 2/3 Tables
Bankroll: $126.01
Hands played: 883
Profit/Loss: +$2.01
Big Blinds won: 40.2
PTBB won: 20.1
ptbb/100h: 2.27

I somehow lost the flops seen and % of flops seen, but if i remember correctly it was somewhere between 15-20 %. I think that is a little too tight, but i really got no cards and it seemed that every time i raised everyone folded. Also most of my good hands came when i was out of position, and that's (postional play) is one of the things i'm really working on improving.

I was down most of the day and very few hands went either good or bad.
Usually what happened was i raise with a good hand and then missed the flop. Then i either let it go or c-bet, depending on the board. Most of my c-bets didn't work and i lost the extra cash. Probably just unlucky or bad timing.
Need to work on when to c-bet or not.
The one good hand i had was just lucky for me but im gonna post it anyway because it was the only exciting one all day.
It was set over set, so i don't think i did anything great but be patient during the lull that was today.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG ($2)
UTG+1 ($22.70)
MP1 ($9.95)
MP2 ($3.23)
MP3 ($3.65)
CO ($9.08)
Button ($9.91)
Hero ($4.59)
BB ($10.49)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

,

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1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Button calls $0.05, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.25)

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(5 players)
Hero bets $0.15, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls $0.15, Button raises to $0.55, Hero raises to $2, MP3 folds, Button raises to $4.5, Hero raises to $6.39, Button calls $0.04.

Turn: ($11.33)

(2 players)

River: ($11.33)

(2 players)

Final Pot: $11.33

Results in white below:
Hero has Tc Ts (three of a kind, tens).
Button doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins $11.33.

(button) mucked [7h 7c]

My bet on the flop was a little weak, but with my rock image (due to being card dead and trying to keep it simple) i was afraid of scaring him off like i did to others a number of times.

WOW, today is not my day so far....
I made a dumb fucking move and i don't know why ! ! ! !
THEN, i tried to auto call a limper, (because i was chatting) and ended up calling a big raise with 67s..
I'm a FUCKING IDIOT ! ! ! !
Now it's gonna take me all day to just get it back..
I'm posting the first hand just to make myself feel bad...lol

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($9.09)
UTG ($5.88)
Hero ($5.22)
MP1 ($6.99)
MP2 ($5.53)
CO ($1.88)
Button ($3.72)
SB ($2.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with

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.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.2, 5 folds, BB calls $0.15.

Flop: ($0.42)

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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BB raises to $0.7, Hero calls $0.35.

Turn: ($1.82)

(2 players)
BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1.4, BB calls $0.90.

River: ($4.62)

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $4.62

Results in white below:
BB has Kc Ts (one pair, kings).
Hero has Jc Js (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: BB wins $4.62.

First i convinced myself that he didn't have the king, then i thought i could take the pot away from him when the 3rd spade hit. Both of which were bad moves...
The thing is that i played so patient yesterday, and then i do this first thing today.
Oh well live and learn...

*Last edited by wesrman on Sun, 20 Jan 2008, 11:26am; edited 1 time in total*

Day #3- $5NL- 2/3 Tables
Bankroll: $123.70
Hands played: 616
Profit/Loss: -$2.31
Big Blinds won/lost: -46.2
ptbb won/lost: -23.1
ptbb/100h: -3.75

3 DAY TOTAL
TOTAL PROFIT/LOSS: $5.81
TOTAL HANDS: 2060
TOTAL ptbb/100: 2.76

Basically even for the day if not for the 2 huge mistakes.
Not playing aggressive enough, but can't seem to make moves at the right time. Trying to play tight, but it seems to hurt my action when i get a decent hand.
At this point the only think keeping me from losing huge, is that eventually someone does something stupid or just gets unlucky.
Can't get a read on anyone. From what i can tell these people are capable of calling with anything or nothing. Hopefully in time i will get to know some of them and figure out their "style". If they have one..lol a lot of them seem to just be winging it.
Need to watch some small stakes videos to get a grasp of what i might be doing wrong.

Jan. 20th

Should i make the call on the river??
He could have a 7, or he could be trying to make me fold.
Thanks...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP1 ($10.89)
MP2 ($4.71)
CO ($28.75)
Button ($4.97)
SB ($5.75)
Hero ($4.42)
UTG ($11.46)
UTG+1 ($6.26)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

,

.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.25)

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(5 players)
SB bets $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05.

Turn: ($0.50)

(5 players)
SB bets $0.1, Hero raises to $0.45, MP1 calls $0.45, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB calls $0.35.

River: ($1.85)

(3 players)
SB bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95, MP1 raises to $10.34, SB calls $4.25 (All-In), Hero calls $2.92 (All-In).

Final Pot: $16.12

WTF???
I'm gonna have to drop down to $2NL.
Not that it will make much difference.
I will probably just lose a little less there. Hopefully.

All day long. Nothing i do is right. I'm not even tilting.
I'm just terrible.
I started the day with $123.70 and i'm at $104.54 right now.
I'm not trying to whine, but i could use some help.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($8.08)
UTG ($8.38)
UTG+1 ($1.50)
MP1 ($3.15)
MP2 ($2.48)
MP3 ($9.88)
Hero ($4.93)
Button ($11.09)
SB ($7.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

,

.
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15, 3 folds.

Flop: ($0.37)

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