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Posted: Tue, 12 Feb 2008, 7:16pm Post subject: Re: hand
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 2328 WPP: 97
Location: Viva la Puteria! / Nar Shaddaa Red Sector obv.
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| wesrman wrote: | PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
MP1 ($0.86)
MP2 ($1.15)
CO ($1)
Button ($3.18)
SB ($0.09)
BB ($0.67)
UTG ($5.46)
Hero ($1.98)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , . CO posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, 2 folds, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.10) , , (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.16, CO calls $0.16, SB calls $0.07 (All-In), BB folds, UTG calls $0.10.
Turn: ($-0.54) (4 players, 1 all-in)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.46, CO calls $0.46, UTG folds.
River: ($0.38) (3 players, 1 all-in)
What's my best move here???
He insta called my bet on the turn, so he may have the nuts.
Do i value bet, or check???
It was only my 3rd hand at this table so i have no reads. |
Aaaaaaand, where is the pf raise? |
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Posted: Tue, 12 Feb 2008, 7:27pm Post subject: Re: hand
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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| Jack Sawyer wrote: |
Aaaaaaand, where is the pf raise? |
You don't ever limp??
and i love the new avatar. |
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Posted: Wed, 13 Feb 2008, 4:22pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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LOL, just posted this one because it was classic SPEW.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
UTG ($1.97)
UTG+1 ($5.97)
MP1 ($2)
MP2 ($4.69)
MP3 ($5.62)
CO ($0.82)
Hero ($2.21)
SB ($4.57)
BB ($2.62)
Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.18, 2 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.16, CO folds.
Flop: ($0.44) , , (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.44, MP3 calls $0.44.
Turn: ($1.32) (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.2, MP3 calls $1.20.
River: ($3.72) (2 players)
MP3 bets $3.8 (All-In), Hero calls $0.39 (All-In).
Final Pot: $4.50
Results in white below:
MP3 has 9c 6c (one pair, nines).
Hero has Ad Ah (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $4.50.
| Jack Sawyer wrote: |
Aaaaaaand, where is the pf raise? |
I shouldn't have been playing this hand OOP anyway.
I'm at $128.66 and moving up to $5NL. AGAIN.
I feel like i'm playing much better postionally now and should do much better this time. |
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Posted: Wed, 13 Feb 2008, 6:29pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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$5NL- Starting Roll -$128.66
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
Hero ($4.07)
MP1 ($2.14)
MP2 ($10.26)
CO ($9.50)
Button ($4.30)
SB ($5.59)
BB ($1.82)
UTG ($5.71)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold.
Flop: ($0.65) , , (3 players)
SB bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15.
Should i have re-raised here or is just calling ok???
I'm not sure if i like the call here with someone behind me.
Although i like the fact that he adds to the pot.
What's my best move here??
Turn: ($1.10) (3 players)
SB bets $0.2, Hero calls $0.20, MP2 folds.
River: ($1.50) (2 players)
SB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.85, SB folds.
Final Pot: $1.80 |
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Posted: Wed, 13 Feb 2008, 10:33pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
CO ($11.49)
Hero ($5.59)
SB ($4.15)
BB ($5.15)
UTG ($11.84)
UTG+1 ($4.47)
MP1 ($8.88)
MP2 ($10)
Preflop: Hero is Button with , . MP2 posts a blind of $0.05.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.5, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.45, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $10, Hero calls $5.09 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $3.97 (All-In).
Flop: ($15.77) , , (3 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: ($15.77) (3 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($15.77) (3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $15.77
Results in white below:
UTG+1 doesn't show.
MP2 has Kc Ah (two pair, kings and queens).
Hero has Kd Ks (full house, kings full of queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $15.77.
One guy had AK, the other had 33...lol |
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Posted: Thu, 14 Feb 2008, 11:16am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1892 WPP: 109
Location: surfing in a room
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| Raise that AQs on flop. U have a gazillion of outs and may be even ahead already. Itīs nice to keep MP in the hand, but even minraising would have brought the same amount of money in the pot. Raise for value and to somewhat disguise your hand, many stations dont expect u to raise a fd and will therefore be more willing pay another bet when ur spade hits. |
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Posted: Thu, 14 Feb 2008, 6:32pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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1.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
UTG ($11)
UTG+1 ($4.16)
MP1 ($4.81)
Hero ($4.93)
CO ($7.73)
Button ($6.10)
SB ($3.73)
BB ($3.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.45, 1 fold, UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.35, SB raises to $3.73, Hero calls $2.38.
Flop: ($7.56) , , (2 players)
Turn: ($7.56) (2 players)
River: ($7.56) (2 players)
Final Pot: $7.56
Results in white below:
SB has Ad Jd (two pair, aces and nines).
Hero has Kd Kc (two pair, kings and nines).
Outcome: SB wins $7.56.
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
MP1 ($9.96)
MP2 ($10.76)
MP3 ($1.82)
Hero ($5.01)
Button ($5.67)
SB ($6.53)
BB ($10.47)
UTG ($16.04)
UTG+1 ($2.15)
Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.05, Button raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.23, BB calls $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20, MP1 calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20.
Flop: ($1.50) , , (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.25, Button raises to $3.35, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4.76, Button calls $1.41.
Turn: ($11.02) (2 players)
River: ($11.02) (2 players)
Final Pot: $11.02
Results in white below:
Hero has 8d 8h (three of a kind, eights).
Button doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins $11.02.
Hand 2. Am i right to call to the raise??
I probably fold if there isn't so much $$/players in the pot.
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
BB ($7.16)
UTG ($2.86)
UTG+1 ($5.56)
MP1 ($3.80)
MP2 ($2.95)
CO ($11.28)
Button ($5.65)
Hero ($4.83)
Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.05, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.5, BB calls $0.45, UTG folds, MP1 folds, CO calls $0.40.
Flop: ($1.60) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $1.45, BB calls $1.45, CO folds.
Turn: ($4.50) (2 players)
Hero bets $2.88 (All-In), BB calls $2.88.
River: ($0) (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $10.26
Results in white below:
BB doesn't show.
Hero has Jh As (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $10.26.
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
UTG+1 ($11.05)
MP1 ($2.55)
MP2 ($4.11)
Hero ($4.93)
Button ($3.78)
SB ($6.44)
BB ($8.37)
UTG ($9.67)
Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.35.
Flop: ($0.97) , , (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.1, Hero raises to $0.9, UTG+1 calls $0.80.
Turn: ($2.77) (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.58 (All-In), UTG+1 folds.
Final Pot: $-0.81
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
CO ($2.10)
Button ($5.93)
SB ($8.21)
BB ($12.82)
UTG ($5.34)
Hero ($7.48)
MP1 ($11.67)
MP2 ($10.32)
MP3 ($10.79)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , .
UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 3 folds, CO raises to $0.5, 3 folds, UTG folds, Hero raises to $7.48, CO calls $1.60 (All-In).
Flop: ($4.32) , , (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($4.32) (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($4.32) (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $4.32
Results in white below:
Hero has Kh Kd (full house, twos full of kings).
CO has Ah Ac (full house, twos full of aces).
Outcome: CO wins $4.32. |
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Posted: Thu, 14 Feb 2008, 11:23pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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| token post. i'll get back to it and read it through tomorrow. |
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Posted: Thu, 14 Feb 2008, 11:29pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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| Chopper wrote: | | token post. i'll get back to it and read it through tomorrow. |
Please dont spam my OP....
just kidding...lol
thanks |
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Posted: Fri, 15 Feb 2008, 11:48am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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i am noticing a lot of people telling you, repeatedly, to RAISE THAT SHIT!!! sounds like you may be too passive. dont go betting like a monkey, but raise your good stuff, and follow through a bit more.
as for BR management, although, you are doing it correctly, i think you need to wait a bit longer before you force yourself down.
when you move up...do it by BIs for the higher level...like you are.
when moving down...do it by BIs for the lower level. you are pulling the plug to a little variance...and frustrating yourself.
you have proven you WILL move down...and thats great...but, next time dont move back down until you get to about 40 BIs for the lower level.
5NL, move up when at $125 (25BIs...fine)
move back to 2NL when at $80 (40BIs).
you still have a helluva cushion, we know you will move back down, and you give yourself more of a chance to survive the variance you may be experiencing while adjusting to your new level. after all, thats what Bankroll Management is for, right? |
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Posted: Fri, 15 Feb 2008, 9:22pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Starting Roll $5NL - $128.66
Bankroll: $ 160.64
Hands played: 2398
Profit/Loss: $31.98
ptbb/100h: 13.43
Doing pretty well so far (although every time i post how well im doing i then downswing like crazy, hopefully not this time). Trying to put people on a range every time, but i suck a it.
Thanks Chopper, i am raising a lot more and trying not to play cautious.
Your right about the dropping down too soon also.
I got Poker Tracker so that should help me find out what i can do better.
Ive been seeing this kind of crap a lot lately and its making it hard for me to fold. I'm trying not to be results oriented, but some of these guys are spewing everywhere.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
BB ($2.68)
UTG ($5.95)
UTG+1 ($9.79)
MP1 ($12.20)
MP2 ($2.25)
Hero ($9.89)
Button ($5.57)
SB ($2.39)
Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.3, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25, UTG folds, MP2 calls $0.25.
Flop: ($0.97) , , (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $0.2, Hero raises to $1.15, BB raises to $2.38, MP2 folds, Hero calls $1.23.
Turn: ($5.93) (2 players)
River: ($5.93) (2 players)
Final Pot: $5.93
Results in white below:
BB has 8s Js (two pair, eights and twos).
Hero has Ks Kd (two pair, kings and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $5.93. |
Last edited by wesrman on Fri, 15 Feb 2008, 9:30pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Fri, 15 Feb 2008, 9:30pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1892 WPP: 109
Location: surfing in a room
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Glad to see youīre back at 5NL again
You played the hand fine. I didnt see the results, the fact you posted the hand suggests he had a random 2? |
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Posted: Fri, 15 Feb 2008, 9:32pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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| XTR1000 wrote: | Glad to see youīre back at 5NL again
You played the hand fine. I didnt see the results, the fact you posted the hand suggests he had a random 2? |
LOL, he had J8. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 12:56pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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good hand. i make a rule to never fold overpairs at these levels. and by never, i mean 90% of the time....sometimes its obvious, but by this hand...sometimes it looks scary, but its just TP being reaaaaallly stoooopid.
dont fold overpairs, as a rule, down here. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 1:16pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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I have PT now, i need to figure out what constitutes TAGG, LAGG etc.
Heres what i have so far. Please feel free to add.
| XTR1000 wrote: | vpip/pfr/total aggression/#hands logged
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how often does he put money in the pot preflop, indicates loose-/tighteness/
how many hands does he raise preflop
TAF= times bet+times raised/times called
32/8/1.3 = he has a quite wide limping/calling range preflop; heīs raising something like 66+, AJs+, AQo preflop (depends on his position-awareness); heīs raising pretty tight postflop, but I wonīt pay much attention to AFīs over less than 200 hands | |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 1:38pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 1619 WPP: 61
Location: Cheshire, UK
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| Hey! I'm down playing 5&10NL at the mo, so If you wanna talk. Sweat sessions etc then I'm for it! |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 1:45pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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| PokerMuzz wrote: | | Hey! I'm down playing 5&10NL at the mo, so If you wanna talk. Sweat sessions etc then I'm for it! |
Hell ya. Where do u play?? i might have to download it.
Turn on your MSN. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 6:13pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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wes,
what i do/did was adjust PT's autorate to match ME. i know my range. so, looser than me is loose (and i know he plays wider), tighter than me plays a tighter range. more aggressive. more passive. etc etc.
i run 18/9/2.25 so, 18+ is semiloose. 30+ is loose. <9 is passive pf. >9 is aggressive pf. <2.25 is passive post flop and >2.25 is aggro post flop.
and, i "read" from there. its not perfect, but i feel i'm fairly decent with it.
btw, include your "went to SD" numbers on the players...if you have GT+. you need to see how often they are/arent folding.
if someone is going to showdown more than 33%, dont bluff them because they will call you down. i dont care how aggressive they are. not all calling stations are passive. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb 2008, 6:32pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Thanks chopper.
I cant get gametime+ to work, so im just gonna wait until i get some extra cash and get pokerace hud. I doubt i really even need it now, i just wanted to get PT so i could keep track of my positional stats and get some sort of read on certain people. |
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Posted: Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 2:02pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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1.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
BB ($5.67)
UTG ($5.95)
UTG+1 ($1.50)
MP1 ($18.48)
MP2 ($5.70)
CO ($15.40)
Button ($4.11)
Hero ($4.93)
Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.5, Hero calls $0.65.
Flop: ($3.05) , , (2 players)
Turn: ($3.05) (2 players)
River: ($3.05) (2 players)
Final Pot: $3.05
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
Hero ($3.97)
Button ($14.42)
SB ($9.51)
BB ($11.65)
UTG ($12.28)
UTG+1 ($3.61)
MP1 ($11.30)
MP2 ($11.08)
MP3 ($4.68)
Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.1, Hero raises to $0.45, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.35.
I suck at ranges but im trying.
He just calls my re-raise so i don't think he has AA, KK, QQ or JJ.
He could have AK,AQ though he would probably 3 bet,
he could have SC or PP 10 or under.
Flop: ($0.97) , , (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP3 raises to $2.5, Hero raises to $3.52, MP3 calls $1.02.
Am i right to push here??
All im worried about is 55 and 99.
Possibly AA, KK, QQ if he slowplayed them, but most likely not.
Turn: ($8.01) (2 players)
River: ($8.01) (2 players)
Final Pot: $8.01 |
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Posted: Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 2:18pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1892 WPP: 109
Location: surfing in a room
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#1 is fine.
#2 we all suck at ranges but we could try to give him a more specified range. I agree with discounting QQ+, JJ depends on style. His small and mid ppīs are getting marginal implied odds, but we can assume he doesnīt know that. There might be some scīs in his range, but I doubt anything below JTs. On flop it hard to read his hand without knowing anything else about his tendencies. Stacking off w/ TPTK requires a read villian will get in with less. |
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Posted: Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 2:21pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 1619 WPP: 61
Location: Cheshire, UK
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Hand 1
Once you 3-bet you have to call the push because of stack size. Stanard
Hand 2
This could easily be QJ/QK/QT, but those are really the only hands you beat on such a dry flop. I think its more likely this is 55/99 or Q9. Could be AA/KK I guess if he likes to slow play or JJ/TT if he's crazy lol. I'd be nice to see stats for this guy, if you've go them? If he's nitty I guess folding to the flop c/r isn't too bad on such a dry flop.
I guess my only criticism is the 3-bet size pre - its pretty big. Make it more like 0.3/0.35.Other than that WP |
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Posted: Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 6:12pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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one..i stack off with AK against a shorty like this all day. i say, nh. i might have tried to 3bet bigger for him...to $1. but, whatev. thats semantics.
two...first of all...TOP UP. dont let yourself fall below $4.50, if at all possible.
preflop reads are pretty good, but dont assume AK/AQ 3bets because you do. you need a player specific read there. generally, tight-passives (12/4 types) will only call raises with AK/AQ, and likely wont even open raise them. but, again, thats player specific. that said, i like the 3bet there.
i dont know about pushing over here. i dont like felting TPTK to a c/r. not much that YOU beat will do that to you. JJ isnt check/raising, TT isnt, QJ isnt. ya know?
i love your river. it may have just bailed your ass out. unless villains had 55 and 99, obv.
if villain thinks you cbet too much, he may have pulled this, but i dont give 5NL players any credit for playing back against habitual cbettors. i'm sure there are a few of them, but i am happy enough to give this douchebag credit for the better hand here.
i say "douchebag" because i hate to lose.
what happened here, imo, is you got "stack happy." try not to do that on such dry boards...
i'll be happy to see what anyone else says, as i could be off on this one. |
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Posted: Sun, 17 Feb 2008, 11:34pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Thanks to all of you, for your help.
I really appreciate you taking the time to help out someone you barely know. I am learning so much (i hope ..lol).
I just got Poker Grapher, so im posting a graph damn it..lol :p
Even though i know its a little early to judge my progress.
I wanted to make it bigger, but every time i tried, it was fuckin huge.
So i settled for this. If you click it, you will see a larger version.
Click it a second time and it becomes clear.
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Posted: Mon, 18 Feb 2008, 12:28am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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5500 hands and looking GREAT!! keep it up.
oh, and for the thumbnail, i wish everyone would post them instead. all we have to do is click on it, and it doesnt reformat the size of the page for every subsequent post forever.
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Posted: Mon, 18 Feb 2008, 9:33pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Up $22 (4+ buy ins) in under 400 hands to start the day.
Then i got stack happy, again...lol (good thing is i recognized it),
and i folded a boat somehow. Screen popped up and i tried to get back to the table and clicked fold. UN FUCKING REAL.
Finished the day up about $17.
Bad call on this one. But ive been ahead here, at this level, more than a few times. Believe me if i posted some of the hands youd laugh your ass off. Which has me worried that i might get to be a bit of a calling station in these situations.
He is very TAGG, of course i didnt know this at the time or i dont call.
Note to self: Need to check stats at times like this.
A HUD that works would be very helpfull.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
MP1 ($11.45)
MP2 ($1.53)
MP3 ($7.50)
CO ($7.75)
Button ($1.53)
SB ($9.65)
Hero ($5.27)
UTG ($7.13)
UTG+1 ($9.85)
Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.4, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.1, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls $0.70.
Flop: ($2.27) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP3 raises to $4, Hero raises to $4.17, MP3 calls $0.17.
Turn: ($10.61) (2 players)
River: ($10.61) (2 players)
Final Pot: $10.61
Starting Roll $5NL - $128.66
Bankroll: $ 187.06
Hands played: 5532
Profit: $58.40
ptbb/100h: 11.52
Playing very tight/aggressive. Maybe too much so??
VPIP/PFR/TOTAL AF
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Posted: Tue, 19 Feb 2008, 10:49am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1892 WPP: 109
Location: surfing in a room
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hand played okay, ur stats are awesome for a beginner (seriously).
We already talked about ur TAF. Itīs def better to be more on the aggro side than to be passive, but I think uīre blowing out weaker hands now and then. Remember that weīre happy to keep weaker hands in the pot as long as theyīre getting a bad price to draw out on us. |
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Posted: Tue, 19 Feb 2008, 10:57am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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| XTR1000 wrote: | hand played okay, ur stats are awesome for a beginner (seriously).
We already talked about ur TAF. Itīs def better to be more on the aggro side than to be passive, but I think uīre blowing out weaker hands now and then. Remember that weīre happy to keep weaker hands in the pot as long as theyīre getting a bad price to draw out on us. |
you are also folding the best hand too often with that high an AF. it doesnt always mean you are aggressive. it also means you know how to fold in the face of ANY aggression...which is not always a good thing.
you numbers look great. i wouldnt do too much yet but grind up a roll. when you get higher, though, you may want to work on calling a bit more in "pot control spots" to induce bluffs from worse hands.
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Posted: Tue, 19 Feb 2008, 2:28pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
UTG+1 ($1.75)
MP1 ($12.56)
MP2 ($9.69)
MP3 ($10.57)
CO ($6.40)
Button ($5.93)
SB ($9.90)
Hero ($4.90)
UTG ($10.62)
Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, MP3 calls $0.05, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: ($0.25) , , (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks.
Turn: ($0.25) (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets $0.3, SB calls $0.30, Hero raises to $0.6, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, SB calls $0.30.
River: ($1.75) (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $2.25, SB raises to $4, Hero raises to $4.25, SB calls $0.25.
Final Pot: $10.25
Results in white below: [color=#FFFFFF]
SB has 5d 7c (full house, sevens full of fives).
Hero has 4h 7s (full house, sevens full of fours).
Outcome: SB wins $10.25. [/color |
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Posted: Wed, 20 Feb 2008, 11:29pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Down $22 or so yesterday, broke even in my rather short session early today. Then i played like 150 hands or so tonight and made my $22 back..lol so i called it a night. Which makes me feel way better because yesterday it seemed like i was gonna start a serious downswing. Besides the hand i posted before this, i got my flushed raped by a boat and made a few dumb calls that i never should have made.
Hand 1.
No reads on this guy. I thought his limp call pre flop and flat call post flop, as well as the check when the third club came just wreaked of a flush draw. So i checked behind on the turn, thinking he would value bet and id get off losing the least amount. And if he had one or two pair, it might get him to bet the river. Either way im calling a decent size bet.
Am i way off here??
Normally i have been firing away (taking his just calling as weakness)and either getting re-raised, or he folds.
Is this played totally retarded or what??
The only thing i cant beat is a flush, which he could have.
But its probably more likely he has one or two pair or maybe even a set.
Should i re-raise the river???
Do i call here if he pushes???
Sorry if this seems dumb, but coming off a -4 buy in session i dont always play my best and i question things. (i know thats wrong and im working on it)
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP2 ($11.65)
Hero ($4.93)
Button ($10.07)
SB ($8.91)
BB ($3.98)
UTG ($9.28)
MP1 ($12.94)
Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.20.
Flop: ($0.57) , , (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.4, UTG calls $0.40.
Turn: ($1.37) (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.
River: ($1.37) (2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1.
Final Pot: $3.37
Hand 2.
Im wondering how much my decisions should change with someone behind me. When button puts me all in here how much do i worry about being up against two opponents???
From the pre flop action (raise and re-raise), i dont think either of them has a set. Im probably up against and big pair and or maybe a flush draw.
Possible AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK,AQ or maybe1010.
AM i far off here??
Im new to implied odds so im not sure how good or bad of a call it would be pre flop with a small PP. But i wouldnt call a re-raise there.
2.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
Hero ($5.71)
UTG ($4.07)
MP1 ($18.58)
MP2 ($4.73)
CO ($6)
Button ($7.68)
SB ($12.55)
Preflop: Hero is BB with , . CO posts a blind of $0.05.
UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button raises to $0.4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.05, UTG folds, CO calls $1, Button calls $0.65.
Flop: ($3.22) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $2.65, CO calls $2.65, Button raises to $6.63, Hero calls $2.01 (All-In), CO calls $2.30 (All-In).
Turn: ($17.78) (3 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($17.78) (3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $17.78 |
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Posted: Thu, 21 Feb 2008, 12:21am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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i may not be the best person to provide commentary right now, as i am in a funk of my own, and posting some pretty retarded hands, too.
but, in hand one, i am not folding. i bet the turn, and call almost any raise. if i get raised, i check/call the river. as played, i still call the river bet, too. i just dont give a lot of credit to 3-card flushes right away. i need more evidence.
hand two, i am all over pushing this hand, and taking my meds if villain has a set. JJ-KK may get like this, as well as draws. this one is a "reflex shove" for me. |
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Posted: Thu, 21 Feb 2008, 8:00am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1892 WPP: 109
Location: surfing in a room
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Bet turn in hand 1. I see your point, u read the hand well but draw maybe not the best conclusions. U will lose this hand to a flush now and then and your line loses the least vs a flush, but youīre missing a ton of value vs the rest of his range. What about one pair hands with Ac kicker? What about slowplayed Q9? 2pr, TT, JJ, Qx? I doubt any of those will fold to a moderate turnbet, so go get the value u deserve. As played, the river is another awkwards spot, since it completed his straight draws I think we must raise and not be happy about it.
#2 u have to get in on this type of flop. Iīm worried about CO, but we really canīt let this go |
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Posted: Fri, 22 Feb 2008, 9:34pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Today i played terrible poker for most of the day.
I made so many dumb calls and stupid plays its ridiculis.
Highlighted by the 2 hands below.
On top of that, i was very unlucky and couldnt get a hand to stand up for the life of me. Every time i made some coin, i would get sucked out on by someone with J9 off.
I was down about $26 (5 buy ins) to $175, but tried very hard not to worry about getting it all back. Instead i said if i hit the $30 down mark i was done for at least the rest of today and maybe another day or two. Just to clear my head.
I also tried to concentrate on playing my normal game instaed of playing scared and expecting to lose every pot. Often when i start losing i become passive and stop c betting when i should.
Anyway, the varience went back to normal (no more sick suck outs) and i battled back to $191 (2 buy ins down for the day). I played pretty well and rather patiently considering for a while it looked like i would never win a pot again..lol.
Im actually very happy with this as i didnt totally start spewing all over the place (except for the hands below).
Sometimes learning something (in this case the importance of patience and never having a defeatest attitude) is worth a little drop in the roll.
Im almost at 10 000 hands, so i will post my stats next session. According to my stats, im not playing positionally aware. Though i feel like i am.
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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($2.33)
UTG+1 ($9.65)
MP ($4.96)
CO ($4.08)
BTN ($9.95)
SB ($3.01)
Hero ($5.15)
Pre-flop: ($0.07, 7 players) Hero is BB
5 folds, SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.2
Flop: ($0.5, 2 players)
SB bets $0.4, Hero calls $0.4
Turn: ($1.3, 2 players)
SB goes all-in $2.36, Hero calls $2.36
River: ($6.02, 2 players)
Final Pot: $6.02
SB shows:
Hero shows:
SB wins $5.77 ( won +$2.76 )
Hero lost -$3.01
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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($10.30)
UTG+1 ($10.07)
MP1 ($7.35)
MP2 ($9.85)
MP3 ($3.48)
CO ($4.03)
Hero ($4.86)
SB ($6.07)
BB ($4.07)
Pre-flop: ($0.07, 9 players) Hero is BTN
UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, MP3 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.45, SB calls $0.43, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP1 calls $0.4, MP2 folds, MP3 folds
Flop: ($1.55, 3 players)
SB bets $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.2, MP1 calls $0.2
Turn: ($2.3, 3 players)
SB bets $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.65, SB calls $0.6, MP1 folds
River: ($3.65, 2 players)
SB bets $0.05, Hero raises to $1.55, SB calls $1.5
Final Pot: $6.75
SB shows:
Hero shows:  |
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Posted: Fri, 22 Feb 2008, 9:42pm Post subject:
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Straight

Joined: 21 Jan 2006
Posts: 170 WPP: 107
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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1) tsk tsk, don't slow play
2) I would bet more on flop and turn, and just call river. Lots of things beat you there. 5 6 whatever the other board card was, pocket pair...basically anything he has been calling you with |
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Posted: Fri, 22 Feb 2008, 9:47pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Believe me Shazzzzzzzz i know.
I put the hands up to remind myself to not get fancy. |
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Posted: Fri, 22 Feb 2008, 9:48pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Believe me Shazzzzzzzz i know.
I put the hands up to remind myself to not get fancy. |
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Posted: Fri, 22 Feb 2008, 10:14pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 801 WPP: 166
Location: Over there!
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| saw you at a table today, was messing around at FR today, gl |
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Posted: Fri, 22 Feb 2008, 10:46pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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| ProZachNation wrote: | | saw you at a table today, was messing around at FR today, gl |
Thanks.
5NL ?????
Hopefully i wasnt spewing too bad
i dont know what i was doing today...lol
Whats your name on stars????? |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Feb 2008, 1:26pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Two hands in a row, against the same guy.
Ive never played him before.
In 38 hands hes 34/18/2, but i never knew this until the second hand.
Hand 1.
I did know however that he was playing quite a few hands, and i thought if i called his bet on the flop i could take it away on the turn if the right card came.
Im still not sure i wasnt ahead here, but there is so much that im behind i figured id wait for a better spot.
1.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP2 ($5.93)
CO ($1.95)
Button ($9.03)
SB ($2.97)
BB ($16.46)
UTG ($12.56)
Hero ($10.20)
MP1 ($5.34)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.2, 3 folds, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds.
Flop: ($0.47) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $0.4, Button raises to $1.2, Hero calls $0.80.
Turn: ($2.87) (2 players)
Hero bets $2.3, Button raises to $7.63, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $7.47
Results in white below:
No showdown. Button wins $7.47.
Enter the better spot.
On the flop, how much should i be re-raising here??
I know theres a good chance he has nothing and thinks im steaming a bit.
I only raised $1, but have a feeling it should be more.
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP1 ($5.93)
MP2 ($1.95)
CO ($12.45)
Button ($2.95)
SB ($16.41)
BB ($12.56)
Hero ($6.50)
UTG+1 ($5.34)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $0.2, 3 folds, CO calls $0.20, 3 folds.
Flop: ($0.47) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $1.
Turn: ($4.47) (2 players)
Hero bets $4.3 (All-In), CO calls $4.30.
River: ($0) (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $13.07
Results in white below:
Hero has 9s 9d (three of a kind, nines).
CO doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins $13.07.
cut off mucked [Ts Qd]
3.
Ok this hand sucks.
I should have raised pre flop and i wouldnt be in this position.
As played, am i not right to slowplay this??
I flop the nuts, and the odds of him having A3 cant be good.
I dont like to slowplay, but it seems ok here if i want some action.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
saw flop|saw showdown
UTG+1 ($7.71)
MP1 ($2.27)
MP2 ($9.80)
Hero ($6.70)
Button ($6.68)
SB ($9.56)
BB ($10.50)
UTG ($7.81)
Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, Button calls $0.05, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.25) , , (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.
Turn: ($0.25) (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets $0.5, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $1.2, Button raises to $2.55, Hero raises to $6.65, Button calls $4.08 (All-In).
River: ($13.51) (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $13.51
Results in white below:
Hero has 2d Ad (full house, aces full of twos).
Button has Ah 3d (full house, aces full of threes).
Outcome: Button wins $13.51. |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Feb 2008, 9:13pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Feb 24 th
Bankroll $222.00
Click thumbnail and click again to see up close.
General Info Stats.
Positional Stats.
Graph.
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Posted: Mon, 25 Feb 2008, 2:40pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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1.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
saw flop|saw showdown
UTG ($4.93)
Hero ($5.20)
MP1 ($8.24)
MP2 ($17.02)
CO ($5)
Button ($4.95)
SB ($2.07)
BB ($9.40)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , . CO posts a blind of $0.05.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 5 folds.
Flop: ($0.62) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, MP1 calls $0.55.
Turn: ($1.72) (2 players)
Hero bets $1.35, MP1 raises to $7.44, Hero ???
2.
Opponent is 46/16/11 although thats after only 60 hands.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP1 ($3.86)
MP2 ($6.82)
CO ($2.57)
Button ($5.09)
SB ($13.75)
BB ($7.86)
UTG ($5.03)
Hero ($4.94)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.2, 2 folds, CO calls $0.20, 2 folds, BB calls $0.15.
Flop: ($0.62) , , (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, CO calls $0.55, BB folds.
Turn: ($1.72) (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, CO raises to $1.82, Hero calls $0.32.
River: ($5.36) (2 players)
Final Pot: $5.36
3.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
saw flop|saw showdown
BB ($6)
Hero ($5.12)
MP1 ($6.37)
MP2 ($8.97)
CO ($9.47)
Button ($5.35)
SB ($10.52)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $0.2, MP1 calls $0.20, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.35, BB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.15, MP1 calls $0.15.
Flop: ($1.40) , , (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.05, MP1 folds, SB calls $1.05, BB folds.
Turn: ($3.50) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
River: ($3.50) (2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero ??? |
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Posted: Thu, 28 Feb 2008, 8:40pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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1.
No reads on this guy but hes a short stack.
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($10.69)
UTG+1 ($9.80)
MP1 ($2.24)
MP2 ($1.72)
MP3 ($28.26)
CO ($9.73)
BTN ($2.04)
SB ($6.30)
Hero ($5.79)
Pre-flop: ($0.07, 9 players) Hero is BB
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.15, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.6, MP1 goes all-in $2.24, Hero ???
2.
Villain is someone i play a lot, he is passive and very willing to fold.
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($13.02)
UTG+1 ($5.45)
MP1 ($9.13)
MP2 ($4.95)
MP3 ($5.95)
CO ($5.56)
BTN ($3.04)
SB ($6.14)
Hero ($5.63)
Pre-flop: ([i]$0.07, 9 players) Hero is BB
UTG calls $0.05, 4 folds, CO calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.3, UTG calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25
Flop: ($0.92, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, UTG calls $0.75
Turn: ($2.92, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.15, |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1892 WPP: 109
Location: surfing in a room
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#1 Call
#2 When a weak passive guy leads flop and calls your c/r alarm bells should start ringing. Depending on his UTG range I guess his range isnt weaker than A9, maybe even stronger 99+. I dont have Pstove here in the office, but I guess we have enough equity to play this turn fast. |
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Posted: Fri, 29 Feb 2008, 10:25am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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i would be interested to hear why you say that. i was talking to Wes yesterday while this hand happened and was leaning towards a call myself. but, i told him i was about 50/50 with my decision. shorter stacked villain, could be really wide, also great for any image you may get from it down here, and its not that expensive of a gambool with a borderline hand to call a pf push with no reads. however, its the 3X/RR/Shove line that bothers me...it reeks of KK/AA.
| XTR1000 wrote: | | #2 When a weak passive guy leads flop and calls your c/r alarm bells should start ringing. Depending on his UTG range I guess his range isnt weaker than A9, maybe even stronger 99+. I dont have Pstove here in the office, but I guess we have enough equity to play this turn fast. |
i think we picked up WAY too much in the way of outs to fold. this is also a good "scare card" to throw some money at agaisnt a passive player that probably sees a lot of monsters under the bed. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Mar 2008, 4:21pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1892 WPP: 109
Location: surfing in a room
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| Chopper wrote: |
i would be interested to hear why you say that. i was talking to Wes yesterday while this hand happened and was leaning towards a call myself. but, i told him i was about 50/50 with my decision. shorter stacked villain, could be really wide, also great for any image you may get from it down here, and its not that expensive of a gambool with a borderline hand to call a pf push with no reads. however, its the 3X/RR/Shove line that bothers me...it reeks of KK/AA.
| XTR1000 wrote: | | #2 When a weak passive guy leads flop and calls your c/r alarm bells should start ringing. Depending on his UTG range I guess his range isnt weaker than A9, maybe even stronger 99+. I dont have Pstove here in the office, but I guess we have enough equity to play this turn fast. |
i think we picked up WAY too much in the way of outs to fold. this is also a good "scare card" to throw some money at agaisnt a passive player that probably sees a lot of monsters under the bed. |
#1 pretty much for the reasons u mentioned. I tend to call shorties quite wide, mostly b/c theyīre annoying me and itīs a cheap way to tilt Seriously, shorties range is probably wide enough to make this at least marginal -EV and weīre showing our willingness to gamboool what might slow them down. Since a shortstacks usually has a ton of FE vs us we must take a stand now and then, if we donīt want them to run over us.
#2 meh, I just played with pstove. To my surprise we are a 3:1 dog vs {99+, A9} and a 2:3 dog if we add 54 to his range. So, when I wrote my first post I thought we bet for value, but now I lean towards c/c, we canīt take a shove and have bad implied odds, I think we should rather take the safe and cheap line to see a river card. Given the read villian is "willing to fold" I doubt we could blow him off his pair after he called flop |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Mar 2008, 8:06pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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you know...i just realized i did something again. wes, dont do this...
most of us assume that low AF's are passive. therefore, if he's passive, he will fold. NOT TRUE. your passives are your calling stations, too. they have low AF's because they CALL MORE THAN THEY BET. it says nothing about folding in the AF. and, we shouldnt assume it does.
this is where specific reads play a HUGE factor. i made this mistake on a huge hand last night, and it was likely a mistake. i got lucky and sucked out, but i will tell you that i had no FE when i thought i did. the more i think about that hand, the more i hate it, and think it was the worst of the session. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 1:00am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 651 WPP: 134
Location: Leaf Nation
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Reads on both hands are meh at best.
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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($6.72)
UTG+1 ($12.86)
MP1 ($6.18)
Hero ($5.59)
CO ($4.25)
BTN ($10.00)
SB ($7.31)
BB ($10.16)
Pre-flop: ($0.07, 8 players) Hero is MP2
UTG raises to $0.3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.1, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.8
Flop: ($2.27, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.95, UTG calls $1.95
Turn: ($6.17, 2 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero goes all-in $2.54
River: ($11.25, 2 players)
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Opponent is 33/12/1 over 50 hands or so.
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($3.40)
UTG+1 ($10.99)
Hero ($5.60)
BTN ($5.85)
SB ($10.85)
BB ($2.90)
Pre-flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.2, BTN calls $0.2, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.47, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.45, BTN calls $0.45
Turn: ($1.37, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.1, BTN calls $1.1
River: ($3.57, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, ????? |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 1:52am Post subject:
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Straight

Joined: 28 Dec 2007
Posts: 202 WPP: 171
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#1
This is why AA pre isn't the best hand post. I hate it when there's 3-flush there without us having that A. Your bet is 50/50, I think some people will say the board is too connected (especially the FD) but I like it. They don't have a flush, they fold, you get the pot. I probably would have bet less, make it look like I'm aiming for a call - and not leaving me with half my stack left. The very fact he called then bet on the turn means you should fold. I don't care what the odds are there's nothing we can hit which makes us win.
Remember the gap theory. We need a wider range to bet/push all-in than we need to call/call all-in. In other words, call with the goods, bet with potential. Here you called with a busted 1 pair. Ask yourself would you have played this hand with KK or TT? After the flop that's what your aces are basically worth and they're not going to get better.
#2
If he has the 3 then so be it. That's just a bitch of a board. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 12:07pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209 WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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one...i like it fine. again, by the time you get to the point villain shoves, its too late (pot odds) to fold. how often do you need to be right to make the turn call profitable? seriously, calculate it...are you that confident in your overpair?
two...river should read "hero reaches into his pocket, pulls out the keys to his ferrari, throws them into the pot with the rest of his chips...and SHOVES". its only a $.30 overbet on river...and villain has called two psb's to this point...he's not folding. besides, any pp likely calls at this level. if its a split or 3, its a split or three. either way...felt it. if worse calls anything, it calls a shove, too. max your EV. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 2:30pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1892 WPP: 109
Location: surfing in a room
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| both hands are played fine |
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