Operation : Silver star and clear 10NL+ learn full ring

*Last edited by Keith_MM on Sat, 12 Sep 2009, 4:39am; edited 1 time in total*

Time for me to announce my new operation. I'm in the same boat as Wonderland, at the end of April my bankroll was $250 on stars and FPP's were 297. My first deposit Bonus expires on 9th June so I need 210 (already had a few fpp's from before I deposited) in the next 6 weeks. I had been playing 5NL and had got to the stage where I was beating 5NL and thinking anout moving up to 10NL but wasn't sure when exactly I should make the leap.

The 50$ Bonus is an incentive to get the FPP's and at 5NL I was getting ~10 per night and adding in the fact that I won't be playing much for probably 10 days in the next 6 weeks it was going to get tight. Stars also announced there silver star promotion for UK players so I only need 250 fpps in May to achieve it.......... SO...... it's time to make the leap and 10NL here I come.

I started with ~$250 and have set myself a $190 floor on the bankroll before I have to move back down to 5NL. I started off with one table of 10NL open , so that I could concentrate , get used to the new level and try to develop reads on what the plays at this level actually meant.
I normally play quite a LAGgy game and run 33/22 ish at 6max, BUT having read Robb's advice to tighten up whilst initially moving up thats what I did. 113 hand in I was playing 13/9 and had lost $30. WHAT?????? Jeez I was punch drunk . I got stacked with a full house , a set and the first one was with top pair no kicker( ok i was stupid with that one) but what made it worse was that most of the money went to the 75/4 fish I had position on who was bleeding money to everyone else but when I hit my monsters , he had better ones. Feeling bad I shut the 10 NL table down for the night and played 5NL and managed to bleed a bit more before recovering and getting a 2$ profit on the 5NL play to leave the bankroll on $222.

I was thinking about it all day yesterday , and wondering whether I should be dropping down to 5NL and grind it back up to $250 again before trying again. In the end set vs set and boat vs boat were just coolers , top pair NK vs slow played flopped double gutshot straight was a hand I should have been playing for a small pot , not a stack and the raise all in on the river should have got me out of the hand cheaper . Oh well ,$10 now to learn the modest changes in other peoples play was a price worth paying. ( I hope I only have to pay it once though). The other main differences I found were :-
min raises - WTF .....they seem to be everywhere ...oh well seems as though they are the nuts and sign to be cautious at 10NL ...at 5NL they just seemed to be crappy players who weren't too sure how good their hand was.
3betting - THere seems to be an abundance of 3 betting PF usually resulting in a fold....5nl it was just a 3bet,4bet, 5bet all in war.....I think I'm going to have to experiment with my AA,KK,QQ,AK type hands to see what the best way to get value is.Its also made me wonder whether I should be looking to 3bet lighter with hands like AJ,AT, KQs, QJs as a steal in position since people seem to be folding a lot more to the 3bet. Depending on how it goes it might mean that the odd suited connectors may also fall into this camp.

OK , so you may have noticed this is a day late but it took til getting home last night to decided that the move down level of $190 was there for a reason, ,it allowed for mistakes while I get used to this new level and some variance. Therefore it was time to start again and keep a close eye on how close I was to the $190 if I did lose some stacks but that I should continue with 10NL . Combined with the fact that I didn't want to start an Op and have to abandon it inside of 2 days means that I'm posting this today. Last nights play will follow in the next post.

*Last edited by Keith_MM on Sun, 03 May 2009, 9:50am; edited 1 time in total*

so, now I'm home for lunch I can post the graph from last night. Obviously from the first post I didn't crash out and burn .......in fact it was the complete opposite with a 6BI heater.

bankroll stands at $282.43 Fpp's 346 ......so 49FPP's this month out of the required 250 ...erm ...looks a cert lol

1082 hands now at 10NL in the last 2 days. I started out last night playing 1 table .....managed to get 2 stacks with KK vs AK which put me in a more relaxed frame of mind , so I started to add more tables until I finished with 3 tables for most of the session and logging nearly 900 hands last night. My play reverted more to my 5NL style , slightly less laggy generally but still LAGgy , and the fish kept swimming in .

I'm happier now . friday night was disheartening , but last night has made me realise that I can beat 10NL, I just have to concentrate , learn and find the fish.
edit: how do you get holdem manager hands to work with the hand converter , I keep getting errors when I try.

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Good luck man! 10nl is ez once you get used to how it plays. (I play FR, so its obv probly a lil different, but no biggie.)

Get dem monies

A brutal nights poker again . Bankroll back down to $256.23 and 372 FPP (175 to go).
got stacked twice but it was mainly a case of hands not holding up/draws not hitting or not getting paid off when they did.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG nerijuzz ($10.00)
UTG+1 Hero ($10.40)
CO Aivla ($18.40)
BTN ruitsan ($23.25)
SB Shishio13 ($16.65)
BB Baal Je? ($11.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Queen of Spades

nerijuzz calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, Aivla raises to $1.50, 3 folds, nerijuzz folds, Hero raises to $4.10, Aivla calls $2.60

Flop: Jack of Hearts

($8.45, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $6.30, Aivla calls $6.30

Turn: Seven of Diamonds

($21.05, 2 players)

River: Jack of Spades

($21.05, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.05
Hero shows: Queen of Spades

Aivla shows: Ace of Hearts

Aivla wins $20.05 ( won +$9.65 )
nerijuzz lost -$0.10
Hero lost -$10.40

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Aivla ($13.20)
CO Chrumcajs ($15.15)
BTN Shishio13 ($19.65)
SB nerijuzz ($11.20)
BB Hero ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB Jack of Diamonds

Aivla calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Aivla calls $0.30

Flop: Three of Clubs

($0.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, Aivla raises to $1.90, Hero raises to $5.20, Aivla goes all-in $12.80, Hero goes all-in $4.40

Turn: Six of Clubs

($23.25, 2 players)

River: Two of Diamonds

($23.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.05
Hero shows: Jack of Diamonds

Aivla shows: King of Clubs

Aivla wins $22.25 ( won +$9.05 )
Hero lost -$10.00

What made you 4bet QQ in that first hand? I would normally flat there vs. most villains and play somewhat cautiously postflop.

He'd been 3betting me a lot, 1st hand was actually after the second one chronologically and I talked myself into thinking he was 3betting light . It does seem to be a recurring theme from last night and the first night that I'm playing my overpairs too aggressively. Although I did stove the second hand ,after i stopped fdor the night and I think I was 53:46 favourite when the money went in.
In hindsight , 2 of the tables I was on I should have stood up and left.This one because Aivla was 3betting me so often , and another one where Baal Je was on my right, but he was open raising virtually every once he was MP or later.He'd bluff lead with air for two streets then give up on the river.It didn't feel nicewith him doing it regularly.On the other table he was hardly doing a thing and he was running stats 26 24 but most of the time it was on the one table.

That QQ is just a cooler, needs strong reads to flat oop. Your sizing sucks tho, repopping that 15BB to 30BB gives him more room to make a mistake and encourage bad calls or induce something spazzy. As played I think c/c frop is good.

JJ Id prob flat flop and b/f a lot of turncards.

*Last edited by Keith_MM on Mon, 04 May 2009, 8:29pm; edited 1 time in total*

these are fridays hands (now that Ive found a way to convert them)
allinjul was 19/10. I was aiming to check raise the flop .

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG+1 allinjulo33 ($33.40)
CO Priptonite ($11.90)
BTN Coolpirate ($7.30)
SB Hero ($10.00)
BB Rabinibal ($30.10)
[Roccelroc posted $0.05]
[Hero posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.30, 6 players) Hero is SB Four of Clubs

allinjulo33 raises to $0.40, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: King of Clubs

($1.05, 2 players)
Hero checks, allinjulo33 checks

Turn: Jack of Hearts

($1.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, allinjulo33 raises to $2, Hero goes all-in $9.60, allinjulo33 calls $7.60

River: Eight of Diamonds

($20.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.10

Hero shows: Four of Clubs

allinjulo33 shows: Seven of Diamonds

allinjulo33 wins $19.10 ( won +$9.10 )
Hero lost -$10.05

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Rabinibal ($29.55)
UTG+1 allinjulo33 ($42.20)
CO Priptonite ($10.90)
BTN Coolpirate ($6.05)
SB Roccelroc ($8.60)
BB Hero ($11.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Two of Clubs

4 folds, Roccelroc calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: Six of Spades

($0.20, 2 players)
Roccelroc checks, Hero bets $0.20, Roccelroc calls $0.20

Turn: Jack of Hearts

($0.60, 2 players)
Roccelroc checks, Hero bets $0.50, Roccelroc raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

River: Two of Diamonds

($2.60, 2 players)
Roccelroc bets $2.50, Hero raises to $6.20, Roccelroc raises to $7.30, Hero calls $1.10

Final Pot: $17.20
Roccelroc shows: Jack of Clubs

Hero shows: Two of Clubs

Roccelroc wins $16.35 ( won +$7.75 )
Hero lost -$8.60

You got coolered the exact same way twice by a player that wasn't even in the hand?!? JEEZ

Aint got a clue WTF happened there it was allright when i previewed it. I'll go back and re edit it .

tonights session was 250 hands 2 tables NR now 252.08 and fpps 275. Hit diddly squat again and Aivla appeared on one of my tables again playing the same way. Heres his stats

Am I reading them right in that hes 3betting with virtually all his raising range?

this hand tonight was while I was heads up after starting a table with no reads
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Cameron Hape ($3.70)
BB Hero ($12.35)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 2 players) Hero is BB Ace of Diamonds

Cameron Hape raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $0.70, Cameron Hape calls $0.30

Flop: Two of Hearts

($1.40, 2 players)
Hero bets $1, Cameron Hape goes all-in $3, Hero calls $2

Turn: Four of Diamonds

($7.40, 2 players)

River: Jack of Hearts

($7.40, 2 players)

Final Pot: $7.40
Hero shows: Ace of Diamonds

Cameron Hape shows: Two of Clubs

Cameron Hape wins $7.05 ( won +$3.35 )
Hero lost -$3.70

slightly annoying that he called the 3bet with his 62 but hey it was sooted.In hindsight I should have 3bet bigger but was trying to keep him in rather than blowing him out of the hand.

‌ this hand Abu was 86/34/7 over 45 hands 100% cbet
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Chrumcajs ($6.65)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN Twin Balls 2 ($2.95)
SB jsveen ($1.80)
BB abu84187 ($14.05)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO Jack of Clubs

Chrumcajs raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, Twin Balls 2 calls $0.20, 1 fold, abu84187 raises to $0.30, Chrumcajs calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, Twin Balls 2 calls $0.10

Flop: Two of Clubs

($1.25, 4 players)
abu84187 bets $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75, 1 fold

Turn: Two of Diamonds

($4.75, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: Eight of Hearts

($6.75, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $1, Hero calls $1

Final Pot: $8.75
Hero shows: Jack of Clubs

abu84187 shows: Jack of Diamonds

abu84187 wins $8.35 ( won +$4.30 )
Hero lost -$4.05
Twin Balls 2 lost -$0.30
Chrumcajs lost -$0.30

in this hand pumpoen was 54/8/0.7 over 26 hands and had seen him bluff with air.I didnt think he had the K on the flop and was most likely on a flush draw or Ax or pocket pair.Talked myself into continuing when the flush draw and flush came , and river was called just in case he had the K or 2 rather than raising it. I was hoping that he'd got the Ax or PP hands .
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO b&k1974 ($5.70)
BTN Arda1983 ($4.05)
SB Hero ($11.80)
BB Pumpoen ($6.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 4 players) Hero is SB Queen of Hearts

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, Pumpoen calls $0.20

Flop: Two of Hearts

($0.60, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, Pumpoen raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: King of Hearts

($2.60, 2 players)
Hero checks, Pumpoen bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: Three of Hearts

($3.60, 2 players)
Hero checks, Pumpoen bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

Final Pot: $6
Hero shows: Queen of Hearts

Pumpoen shows: King of Clubs

Pumpoen wins $5.75 ( won +$2.75 )
Hero lost -$3

this just about sums up my draw hands
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Chrumcajs ($5.20)
CO Hero ($10.45)
BTN emunderscore ($9.65)
SB Twin Balls 2 ($5.55)
BB abu84187 ($21.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO Queen of Clubs

Chrumcajs calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, abu84187 calls $0.30, Chrumcajs folds

Flop: King of Clubs

($0.95, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: Two of Diamonds

($1.45, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: Seven of Spades

($2.45, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $1, Hero folds

Final Pot: $2.45

abu84187 wins $3.35 ( won +$1.20 )
Hero lost -$1.15
Chrumcajs lost -$0.10

should I have shoved on the flop with roughly 15(?) outs and 2 cards to come. It was only because it was against the agro monkey I thought i could let him bet and call until the outs hit.

bankroll 244.88 fpps 397 (100 collected so far this month)

really annoying session. I was up to $280 and then just started spewing.

AJ - I dont get it. With stack sizes this is awful. U see how 3balling to whatever size makes u feel commited on any board, rather shovel or flat pre. Dont blame him for calling a min3bet in position, think what 3balling has accomplished.

JT - I usually tone down on my cold calls, when theres someone squeeze happy left to act and Im not otb. As played your line is fine given reads and his sizing

AQ - Depends on how likely you are to outplay him on later streets. We can float the minraise vs nittags who will take one stab and then give up, vs this guy we´ll end up playing the guessing game. If you´re going to float him donk this turn, to get value from FDs and fold out 33-66

QJ - Def try to get it in, gotta raise/4ball tho, just shoveling kills our action with stack-/pot size

*Last edited by Keith_MM on Wed, 06 May 2009, 9:13pm; edited 1 time in total*

[quote="XTR1000"] AJ - I dont get it. With stack sizes this is awful. U see how 3balling to whatever size makes u feel commited on any board, rather shovel or flat pre. Dont blame him for calling a min3bet in position, think what 3balling has accomplished.
[\quote]
I was probably expecting to resteal. In hind sight is call preflop , check fold flop a better line ?

had a good session today , bit of a cooler athe end losing 13$ to a set but BR =282.83 and fpp's 415 (118 ) 90 to go to cloear 1st deposit Bonus.

had AA twice within 8 hands on 1 table to take two stacks.
starting off with the main losing hand of the session, Should I be 3betting this bigger preflop to take away set odds ?

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG grifoman ($13.80)
CO Hafter ($16.20)
BTN IgotsUrMoney ($2.80)
SB Hero ($51.65)
BB Eva9014 ($10.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB Queen of Hearts

grifoman raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, Eva9014 calls $0.90, grifoman calls $0.70

Flop: Eight of Hearts

($3, 3 players)
Hero bets $2.60, Eva9014 folds, grifoman raises to $5.20, Hero raises to $15, grifoman goes all-in $7.60

Turn: Nine of Spades

($30.80, 2 players)

River: Four of Diamonds

($30.80, 2 players)

Final Pot: $28.60
Hero shows: Queen of Hearts

grifoman shows: Eight of Clubs

Hero wins $2.20 ( lost -$13.80 )
grifoman wins $27.20 ( won +$13.40 )
Eva9014 lost -$1

This hand I found weird with his turn raise , I didn't think he had 33 or a 4 and Thought he had probably got a PP. ruled out AA,KK as I thought he'd have 4bet me PF.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO MM Charon ($12.15)
BTN zrefz ($11.40)
SB Hero ($13.00)
BB King_Herfst ($10.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 4 players) Hero is SB Queen of Diamonds

1 fold, zrefz raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: Four of Hearts

($0.70, 2 players)
Hero checks, zrefz bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, zrefz calls $0.80

Turn: Three of Diamonds

($3.10, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, zrefz raises to $3.60, Hero calls $2.30

River: Six of Clubs

($10.30, 2 players)
Hero checks, zrefz goes all-in $6.30, Hero calls $6.30

Final Pot: $22.90
zrefz shows: Eight of Spades

Hero shows: Queen of Diamonds

Hero wins $21.80 ( won +$10.40 )
zrefz lost -$11.40

I think this hand is pretty standard.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG francisnewtn ($10.00)
UTG+1 Hero ($18.85)
CO AARONLYON ($8.55)
BTN bersekus ($10.00)
SB nussi_oioi ($7.50)
BB ptichou ($10.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Ace of Spades

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, nussi_oioi raises to $1.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.10, nussi_oioi goes all-in $7.50, Hero calls $5.40

Flop: Four of Spades

($15.10, 2 players)

Turn: Queen of Hearts

($15.10, 2 players)

River: Queen of Clubs

($15.10, 2 players)

Final Pot: $15.10
Hero shows: Ace of Spades

nussi_oioi shows: King of Diamonds

Hero wins $14.35 ( won +$6.85 )
nussi_oioi lost -$7.50

this hand came up 3 minutes later on the same table. I tried to make it look like i was trying to bully them off the pot. Was it too aggro?

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG francisnewtn ($10.05)
CO Hero ($25.80)
BTN bersekus ($10.00)
SB nussi_oioi ($9.90)
BB ptichou ($10.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO Ace of Clubs

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, bersekus raises to $1, 1 fold, ptichou calls $0.90, Hero raises to $23.20, bersekus folds, ptichou goes all-in $9.10

Flop: Five of Spades

($34.35, 2 players)

Turn: Four of Diamonds

($34.35, 2 players)

River: Seven of Diamonds

($34.35, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.25
Hero shows: Ace of Clubs

ptichou shows: Ten of Hearts

Hero wins $33.30 ( won +$10.10 )
bersekus lost -$1
ptichou lost -$10.10

this hand flopped my set and time to get the money in.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG kilsonsena ($10.45)
UTG+1 snoopjoc ($14.50)
CO Jimbo_pt ($9.35)
BTN stifffler230 ($15.40)
SB tofu soup ($12.70)
BB Hero ($10.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Seven of Spades

3 folds, stifffler230 raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: Nine of Clubs

($0.85, 2 players)
Hero checks, stifffler230 bets $0.70, Hero raises to $2.10, stifffler230 raises to $3.70, Hero raises to $5.30, stifffler230 goes all-in $15, Hero goes all-in $5

Turn: Four of Clubs

($26.15, 2 players)

River: Jack of Hearts

($26.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.45
stifffler230 shows: King of Diamonds

Hero shows: Seven of Spades

stifffler230 wins $4.70 ( lost -$10.70 )
Hero wins $20.40 ( won +$9.70 )

this hand I tried betting the flop small to try and induce a raise as he was a short stacker and didn't want him checking behind for free by going for a check raise.He was 33/8/4
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Eva9014 ($10.00)
CO grifoman ($11.05)
BTN gitano_maki ($3.90)
SB Hafter ($14.80)
BB Hero ($42.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB King of Spades

2 folds, gitano_maki calls $0.10, Hafter calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, gitano_maki calls $0.30, Hafter folds

Flop: Seven of Hearts

($0.90, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, gitano_maki goes all-in $3.50, Hero calls $3.30

Turn: Four of Spades

($7.90, 2 players)

River: Two of Clubs

($7.90, 2 players)

Final Pot: $7.90
Hero shows: King of Spades

gitano_maki shows: Nine of Spades

Hero wins $7.55 ( won +$3.65 )
gitano_maki lost -$3.90
Hafter lost -$0.10

back to the QJ: a 4x raise seems too big, 0.8 seems fine as it gives him more room to 3ball

QQ - fine

KQ - weird line by the villian, sweet line on your part.

AA - This is fine as long as people 3b bluff rarely and call off a 4bet shove with enough weak hands. In general this will fold out a lot of his range tho and more importantly takes away his FE (from his pov) to 5bet shovel himself.

77 - This is okay. There will come a time, where u cant play it that hard on a flop this dry, where u cant rep a load, as long people stack off on TPGK+ its a cool line to take.

KK - I like, Im experimenting with smaller bets on dry boards as well. If you get caught doing this with strong hands, you can bluff here with smaller bets as well.

its been a busy couple of days , so I haven't got many hands in . Played some on thursday night and was pretty card dead and ended up at $271.23 and added the grand total of 1fpp.

Was late home on friday and since its been 4.30am starts this weekend watched a 10nl video from TAGpoker.co.uk before heading off to bed.

Managed to get a shortish session in last night even though I was tired. Actually had position on A 98/84 over his first 30 hands or so and a 84/0 sat next to him.
Bankroll now at $284.18 and 423 fpps (halfway to silver star).Bit annoying that I was working so that I couldn't take part in the Full Tilt freeroll after the last two turned into rubbish ones ,this was actually a case of playing against a lot of familiar names.

had a good session tonight except for a couple of bad beats (stacks sort) . 900 hands BR now 303.48 (peaked about 325) fpps 458 which catches up a bit on the lack over the last few days.about 50 more for the Bonus to kick in .

put in 300 hands in a shortish session last night (cos I was tired) and BR finished at $300.28 fpps 471. Having the night off tonight as I'm totally knackered worked 7AM to 9.30 PM .

This was the main losing hand
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG pirke_nis ($5.20)
UTG+1 yackfou666 ($10.00)
CO Hero ($12.15)
BTN Fat2010 ($12.05)
SB roncrx ($12.05)
BB Lotus98T ($24.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO Ten of Spades

pirke_nis calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 3 folds, pirke_nis calls $0.40

Flop: Ace of Diamonds

($1.15, 2 players)
pirke_nis checks, Hero bets $0.80, pirke_nis raises to $1.60, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: Ten of Hearts

($4.35, 2 players)
pirke_nis goes all-in $3.10, Hero calls $3.10

River: Nine of Clubs

($10.55, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.55
pirke_nis shows: Nine of Hearts

Hero shows: Ten of Spades

pirke_nis wins $10.05 ( won +$4.85 )
Hero lost -$5.20

This hand at least I didnt keep firing .
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG muckumshiddy ($11.85)
CO BETrbeSURE ($15.30)
BTN mentalist123 ($8.45)
SB arpinko ($13.60)
BB Hero ($11.05)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB Jack of Clubs

mentalist123 says "hahaha", muckumshiddy raises to $0.30, mentalist123 says "85 off you call there ?", BETrbeSURE calls $0.30, mentalist123 says "u are better than arpi", mentalist123 says "omg", 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: Six of Hearts

($0.95, 3 players)
BETrbeSURE says "ty", mentalist123 says "lol", Hero bets $0.70, muckumshiddy folds, BETrbeSURE raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: Eight of Diamonds

($3.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, BETrbeSURE bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

River: Two of Hearts

($6.35, 2 players)
Hero checks, BETrbeSURE checks, arpinko says "82s OOP ? Smile

..lol, I know, you have to play that, was suited Smile

"

Final Pot: $6.35
BETrbeSURE shows: Five of Spades

Hero shows: Jack of Clubs

BETrbeSURE wins $6.05 ( won +$3.05 )
muckumshiddy lost -$0.30
Hero lost -$3

must start to think about folding to raises post flop when I only have top pair
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG roncrx ($12.65)
UTG+1 Lotus98T ($20.75)
CO pirke_nis ($5.35)
BTN yackfou666 ($10.00)
SB Hero ($13.95)
BB Fat2010 ($12.95)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB Jack of Clubs

1 fold, Lotus98T calls $0.10, pirke_nis calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, Fat2010 checks

Flop: Six of Spades

($0.40, 4 players)
Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Lotus98T raises to $0.80, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: Jack of Spades

($2, 2 players)
Hero checks, Lotus98T bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

River: Ace of Diamonds

($6.20, 2 players)
Hero checks, Lotus98T checks

Final Pot: $6.20
Hero shows: Jack of Clubs

Lotus98T shows: Queen of Spades

Lotus98T wins $5.90 ( won +$2.90 )
pirke_nis lost -$0.10
Hero lost -$3
Fat2010 lost -$0.10

then again , I got lucky in this hand
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG Lotus98T ($19.20)
UTG+1 pirke_nis ($5.65)
CO ssg hoagy ($6.00)
BTN Hero ($10.40)
SB bohoccc ($4.50)
BB roncrx ($14.45)
[ssg hoagy posted $0.05]

Pre-flop: ($0.20, 6 players) Hero is BTN King of Hearts

Lotus98T calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, bohoccc calls $0.35, 1 fold, Lotus98T calls $0.30

Flop: Nine of Clubs

($1.35, 3 players)
bohoccc bets $0.60, Lotus98T calls $0.60, Hero raises to $2, bohoccc goes all-in $4.10, Lotus98T folds, Hero calls $2.10

Turn: Eight of Clubs

($10.15, 2 players)

River: King of Clubs

($10.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.15
Hero shows: King of Hearts

bohoccc shows: Queen of Clubs

Hero wins $9.65 ( won +$5.15 )
bohoccc lost -$4.50
Lotus98T lost -$1

what do you think of the turn bet size here?
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Goldarowana ($11.40)
UTG+1 kaaex ($15.00)
CO Hero ($11.45)
BTN DocBrown74 ($19.50)
SB arpinko ($10.00)
BB salo639 ($9.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO Eight of Hearts

Goldarowana calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, salo639 calls $0.30, Goldarowana calls $0.30

Flop: Nine of Spades

($1.25, 3 players)
salo639 bets $0.50, Goldarowana calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, salo639 folds, Goldarowana calls $1.50

Turn: King of Diamonds

($5.75, 2 players)
Goldarowana checks, Hero bets $3.30, Goldarowana folds

Final Pot: $5.75

Hero wins $8.80 ( won +$3.10 )
salo639 lost -$0.90
Goldarowana lost -$2.40

bit of a nightmare last night , finished down 3 BI with bankrolll at 271.63 fpps 492 (13 for Bonus 55 for silver star)

I must stop stacking off with over pairs , it seems to be costing me a fortune.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
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Stacks:
UTG CzechGenius ($5.50)
CO Elmero78176 ($14.50)
BTN AllinPeen ($14.85)
SB Hero ($10.05)
BB nior139555 ($10.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB Queen of Diamonds

2 folds, AllinPeen raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, 1 fold, AllinPeen calls $0.90

Flop: Five of Diamonds

($2.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, AllinPeen raises to $4.40, Hero goes all-in $8.85, AllinPeen calls $4.45

Turn: Nine of Clubs

($20.20, 2 players)

River: King of Clubs

($20.20, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.20
AllinPeen shows: Ace of Hearts

Hero shows: Queen of Diamonds

AllinPeen wins $19.20 ( won +$9.15 )
Hero lost -$10.05

this hand i didn't think he had the flush as it came from runer runner and I thought my turn bet would have priced out flush draws.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO veritto ($10.95)
BTN Kokkso ($3.85)
SB proJJkeke ($9.20)
BB Hero ($12.65)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 4 players) Hero is BB Ten of Diamonds

2 folds, proJJkeke raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: Queen of Clubs

($0.80, 2 players)
proJJkeke bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: Jack of Spades

($2, 2 players)
proJJkeke bets $1.20, Hero raises to $2.40, proJJkeke calls $1.20

River: Six of Spades

($6.80, 2 players)
proJJkeke goes all-in $5.80, Hero calls $5.80

Final Pot: $18.40
proJJkeke shows: Seven of Spades

Hero shows: Ten of Diamonds

proJJkeke wins $17.50 ( won +$8.30 )
Hero lost -$9.20

Played about 500 hands last night on 10NL for a net $2.90 gain so that atthe end of cash game my BR was $274.43. Played in the FTR200 as well , bit of a chat with M2M at the table and surprised myself playing 13/12 ( I'm not a nit honestly) and M2M was on 38/33 bit of a role reversal. Managed to take down 4th place for $20. When I checked my cashier at the end of the night my fpps are 505 and an email had arrived from the cashier

Hey man great job on the tourney cash! I knew you were gonna place. Now if only that tournament would go faster or something maybe I wouldn't have donked my stack haha, oh well bar>freeroll.

Well last night was one hell of a rollercoaster. Cashier dipped down to $330 climbed to 390 ishbefore settling at $357.43 at close of play. 550 fpps 253 this month , so with the UK offer I've cleared silver star for next month. Bit of a bummer really as those cash bonuses for the fpps are only for silver star players in may , so I'm hoping they will still be about ready for next month.

I'm still spewing money with good hands, but I was trying to concentrate last night on big pot big hand and small hand small pot.
I was also bet folding a lot more , whereas in the past it would have been bet/call or check call and would have spewed off more money.Had a $30 win stacking two people,and lost a $30 pot .The second was annoying as flopped a set , villain bet , I 3x raised and he shoved all in with his flush draw. when the money went in I was 74:26 equity wise and he rivered his flush.

HEM trial ran out overnight as well ,So I am stumping up the cash for it today. I think that HEM is a lot more advanced in the stats side of things , but PT3 had some features that I liked. Hopefully once I get the license code I can post some of the hands from last night.
One thing I noticed is that I tried to get the last weeks hand history emailed from stars and it only sent the last 200 hands. Which is piss poor as I played about 1400 hands last night. I consciously tried to tighten up a bit last night as well and generally was playing 24/18 ish .

My next major decision is going to be where to move my roll to and when.I havew about $150 on WH which when i move it from sports side to poker side will be entitled to 100% first depositors Bonus. Seems like I have to clear all of the points before it gets paid over though. Timeless Poker is looking like an option whilst i still have a relatively small roll , 40% Rakeback and 100% on $100 firts deposit Bonus.

Just read through your OP... congrats on the Bonus and BR build. I am in the same boat now. BR keeps swinging between 275-330 and am at 377.5 fpps so end of the month is my goal for Bonus. Nice to see it done and done so fast from your original start date.

well the swings are continuing , saturday night , I couldn't win hardly anything , was all in twice with the nuts and tied the pot and was sucked out on sooo many times. Luckily didnt get stacked but had to fold once the board turned horrible on the river and villains kept shoving. At the end of the night I was down to $331.43 and FPPs were 568.

Tonight was a totally different beast, lost some hands early (as iusual) but then hit a roll and cards were kind to me as well. 480 hands in 2 1/2 hours for a 24.50 profit. Bankroll is 355.93 and fpps are 586.
main loss was
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Bakmeius ($10.05)
UTG+1 janiboi88 ($10.25)
CO Hero ($33.40)
BTN cola004 ($9.85)
SB Chilusa ($11.00)
BB Cicor69 ($11.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO King of Clubs

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, cola004 raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: Jack of Diamonds

($2.55, 2 players)
Hero checks, cola004 bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: Four of Spades

($6.55, 2 players)
Hero checks, cola004 goes all-in $6.65, Hero calls $6.65

River: Ace of Clubs

($19.85, 2 players)

Final Pot: $19.85
Hero shows: King of Clubs

cola004 shows: Ace of Hearts

cola004 wins $18.90 ( won +$9.05 )
Hero lost -$9.85

Heres this month so far to show the swings

winners were
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG nakh1 ($13.90)
UTG+1 janiboi88 ($10.00)
CO Hero ($12.65)
BTN vignigga ($11.65)
SB Chilusa ($8.05)
BB manilla01 ($2.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO Jack of Diamonds

nakh1 raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, manilla01 calls $0.10

Flop: Queen of Hearts

($0.65, 3 players)
manilla01 goes all-in $1.80, nakh1 calls $1.80, Hero calls $1.80

Turn: Ten of Clubs

($6.05, 3 players)
nakh1 checks, Hero checks

River: Nine of Diamonds

($6.05, 3 players)
nakh1 bets $2.90, Hero goes all-in $10.65, nakh1 calls $7.75

Final Pot: $27.35
manilla01 shows: Queen of Diamonds

nakh1 shows: Jack of Hearts

Hero shows: Jack of Diamonds

Hero wins $26 ( won +$13.35 )
manilla01 lost -$2
nakh1 lost -$12.65

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Chilusa ($7.40)
UTG+1 skay13 ($2.80)
CO nakh1 ($9.70)
BTN Kra3v ($6.65)
SB Hero ($10.00)
BB vignigga ($16.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB King of Diamonds

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, vignigga calls $0.30

Flop: Two of Diamonds

($0.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, vignigga calls $0.80

Turn: Queen of Diamonds

($2.40, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $8.80, vignigga calls $8.80

River: Seven of Diamonds

($20, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20
Hero shows: King of Diamonds

vignigga shows: Ace of Clubs

Hero wins $19.05 ( won +$9.05 )
vignigga lost -$10

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Hero ($26.00)
SB vignigga ($11.55)
BB Chilusa ($8.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 3 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Hearts

Hero raises to $0.40, vignigga folds, Chilusa calls $0.30

Flop: King of Hearts

($0.85, 2 players)
Chilusa checks, Hero bets $0.70, Chilusa raises to $2.20, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: Queen of Spades

($5.25, 2 players)
Chilusa bets $3, Hero raises to $12.80, Chilusa goes all-in $2.65

River: Jack of Spades

($23.70, 2 players)

Final Pot: $16.55
Chilusa shows: Jack of Clubs

Hero shows: Queen of Hearts

Hero wins $22.90 ( won +$7.50 )
Chilusa lost -$8.25

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Lescelleur ($6.15)
CO bashagain ($8.70)
BTN Hero ($13.30)
SB asertivo ($11.05)
BB CoHorseman ($5.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN King of Clubs

Lescelleur raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Lescelleur calls $0.80

Flop: Five of Diamonds

($2.55, 2 players)
Lescelleur goes all-in $4.95, Hero calls $4.95

Turn: Seven of Hearts

($12.45, 2 players)

River: Ten of Spades

($12.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $12.45
Lescelleur shows: Queen of Diamonds

Hero shows: King of Clubs

Hero wins $11.85 ( won +$5.70 )
Lescelleur lost -$6.15

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG POWRERTRIP ($3.40)
CO TZ2009 ($16.00)
BTN dsrowqf ($10.15)
SB Hero ($12.95)
BB Doberman06 ($5.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB King of Clubs

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Doberman06 calls $0.30

Flop: Two of Clubs

($0.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, Doberman06 calls $0.80

Turn: Nine of Diamonds

($2.40, 2 players)
Hero bets $5.20, Doberman06 goes all-in $4.25

River: Queen of Spades

($11.85, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.90
Hero shows: King of Clubs

Doberman06 shows: Ten of Hearts

Hero wins $11.35 ( won +$4.95 )
Doberman06 lost -$5.45

684 hands for a loss of $11.10 to leave bankroll on $344.83 and 606 fpps. Frustrating night really, was up $20 at one stage and then just kept running into sets to put me down nearly 2BI at one stage and i finished the session off with a 1/2 buyin stacking with an overpair (99) to recover slightly.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG vlavoj ($10.00)
UTG+1 notjunior ($4.10)
CO hightower880 ($9.60)
BTN Hero ($15.15)
SB camelsj ($7.25)
BB andriallstar ($10.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Ace of Diamonds

1 fold, notjunior calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, camelsj calls $0.25, andriallstar calls $0.20, notjunior calls $0.20

Flop: Three of Diamonds

($1.20, 4 players)
camelsj checks, andriallstar checks, notjunior bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, camelsj calls $0.50, andriallstar folds

Turn: Nine of Clubs

($2.70, 3 players)
camelsj checks, notjunior bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30, camelsj calls $1.30

River: Two of Clubs

($6.60, 3 players)
camelsj checks, notjunior checks, Hero bets $6.20, camelsj goes all-in $5.15, notjunior folds

Final Pot: $16.90
Hero shows: Ace of Diamonds

camelsj shows: Three of Hearts

Hero wins $1.05 ( lost -$7.25 )
camelsj wins $16.10 ( won +$8.85 )
notjunior lost -$2.10
andriallstar lost -$0.30

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG lansdowne10 ($7.40)
CO Rocket_921 ($10.00)
BTN Hero ($10.00)
SB hi-tekk1 ($3.15)
BB civicjordan ($5.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN Nine of Spades

lansdowne10 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, civicjordan calls $0.30, lansdowne10 calls $0.30

Flop: Four of Hearts

($1.25, 3 players)
civicjordan checks, lansdowne10 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, civicjordan folds, lansdowne10 raises to $1.10, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: Jack of Spades

($3.45, 2 players)
lansdowne10 bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: Jack of Diamonds

($5.45, 2 players)
lansdowne10 bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

Final Pot: $8.85
Hero shows: Nine of Spades

lansdowne10 shows: Four of Diamonds

lansdowne10 wins $8.45 ( won +$4.25 )
Hero lost -$4.20
civicjordan lost -$0.40

should have save myself $1.70 on the river here

PokerStars Game #28354103336: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/05/19 0:15:42 WET [2009/05/18 19:15:42 ET]
Table 'Priska III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: vlavoj ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 2: notjunior ($3.05 in chips)
Seat 3: pabbless ($7.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Keith_MM ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 5: camelsj ($16.25 in chips)
Seat 6: tonypoker883 ($7.80 in chips)
vlavoj: posts small blind $0.05
notjunior: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Keith_MM [Ah Th]
pabbless: calls $0.10
Keith_MM: raises $0.30 to $0.40
camelsj: folds
tonypoker883: calls $0.40
vlavoj: folds
notjunior: folds
pabbless: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [5s Ad 4c]
pabbless: checks
Keith_MM: bets $1
tonypoker883: folds
pabbless: calls $1
*** TURN *** [5s Ad 4c] [6s]
pabbless: checks
Keith_MM: checks
*** RIVER *** [5s Ad 4c 6s] [2d]
pabbless: bets $1.70
Keith_MM: calls $1.70
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pabbless: shows [4h 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
Keith_MM: mucks hand
pabbless collected $6.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.75 | Rake $0.30
Board [5s Ad 4c 6s 2d]
Seat 1: vlavoj (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: notjunior (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: pabbless showed [4h 4s] and won ($6.45) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: Keith_MM mucked [Ah Th]
Seat 5: camelsj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tonypoker883 (button) folded on the Flop

pretty uneventful session last night. 600 hands and BR finished at $348.38 and 619 fpps.Was up 12$ at one stage and it just dwindled away.

wednesday night i was watching "wonderland" play for an hour or so in a sweat session.Interesting to see where he was folding and I'd have been raising.
Another Interesting thing was seeing the fpp balance that he had made this month compared to me since he plays with 6$ (?) buyin and I'm buying in for the full $10.Where I have blasted through the UK's silver star promotion this month Andy's still got a way to go .....and he wasn't even aware of it. This might also be a style issue with me probably being a more aggressive and building a pot leading to my very swingy graph.
Played a short session after the sweat and finished up $3 ish and last night couldn't hit a draw. managed to recover at the end of the session to a BR of 346.23 and 643 fpps

Hey KEEF, how are them cows?

aye, i been losing so bad lately that i aint doing full stack cozi it will be just more to lose rather than more to win.

I lost the munniez you saw me make in two hands the following session.

Anywho... in summary... fold more. I've been saying this a lot lately but it's a way overlooked concept in our stake. For some reason i'm still able to piss stacks away when i'm in good but soon that poker aids will heal up and i'll get back into realistic spots where i'm not flipping 9 tails and one heads out of ten flips *rolls eyes*.

Anyway... love to fold. Someone once said that poker is a game in which you can make money by folding. That always stuck in my head. Your button range is wide, and i tried that thinking: well, i'm in position wtf?! but we shouldn't take it for granted that just because they're in the blinds they have a) weaker hands and b) will just check fold.

Or let's say you do open up. The whole cbet thing is interesting. Very often fish will check-call so don't expect to take it down with air. I very often get called two out of three streets with bot pair when i've hit air. So i thought, you know what, fuck all that kind of play. I just want some low variance, tight, semi-predictable play.

So go ahead and polarize your ranges, they won't catch on. I'm talking leave medium suited connectors in late position, weak kings and weak aces on the button. What are you gonna do, bet your A8 when an A hits? these people are flatting with AA preflop.

Anywho, that's my two cents. I'm hardly winning but i never wanted those swings you're getting and have deliberately created a style that is working to avoid that. Still swingy but not nearly as much.

Lemme know what you think and if you try it out Smile

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ok 10k hands stats time at 10NL.

By keith_mm at 2009-05-22

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i havnt played 6max for so long, and even when I used to play it I was only at 10NL, but 29/18 seems pretty horrid imo. tighten up for a start, and then stop limping/calling so much pre.

obviously my main reason for concern is the button results. I think I'm opening far too wide a range and its getting me into spew I was discussing this with Andy the other night. Some ofthe other results were slightly surprising. I have said about overvaluing overpairs when in reality they are a nice earner.
Any comments will be greatly appreciated to help me sort out the crap that I've been doing.

i hope i'm not going to sound like an arsehole in this post...

I suggest fold to 3bets more. Calling a 3bet 50% of the time is just pure spew. My own fold to 3bet stat is 70% for 10nl (I play FR tho :/). But still, you need to start 4betting or folding to those. Calling just sucks, especially if you are OOP. You give away all initiative. You are pretty much forced to check/fold when you miss, and thats just teh gay lol.

you're way too loose in the SB and UTG/UTG+1

You are open limping small pkt pairs or something utg?

Good luck with your grind. I'll be posting my first 10k myself soon and I think we both have similar leaks (but good potential) in our game. I'll definitely keep an eye on your thread. Good luck!

bit of a quick update to say that there is no update . Been working long days and been virtually a case of getting home and off to bed before 6am (or earlier) start the next day.
This isn't to say that I'm not thinking about my game though, I'm thinking about swapping back to a trying a combination of Robbs first 100 hands again and Rentons preflop guide.I've also got to be a lot more decisive about when to leave a bad table. I've blown too much money having a station /maniac on my left. If I havent got some nitty players on my left I end up playing far too many pots OOP, blind stealing becomes like russian roulette.
The other thing i'm debating in my head is whether using this much tighter starting strategy I would be better to switch to full ring as well , since so many guys seem to do well at it or to carry on with 6max.

five tables is plenty to play fold 'em @ 6max.

I play 4 and am playing like 18% of hands. It's reasonably paced. Sometimes pop open a 5th if i'm card dead.

just learn to love throwing away your hands when you have crap, sometimes that crap inclides TPTK. Today i raised with AA and got two callers while in pos. Flop was like 9TJ, it went check check and i bet full pot, got raised like 2.5x and folded. Two weeks ago i'd have probably been shoving.

You'll watch that graph AT LEAST flatten out.

time for an update. Hardly played any hands recently simply due to long hours at work that I mentioned at the start of this OP. Knew it was coming hence the concentration on putting hands in at the start of the month.
played 415 hands on sat 31st and ended down a buy in. Mainly due to lots of small pots that hit diddly squat.
Last night was a roller coaster car crash.was up 23$ after 250 hands and finished up down 18$. This left the bankroll at $315.63 and fpps at 693.5
Since I hit silverstar last month using the UK promotion the fpps are racking up 50% faster now , and the store now has instant cash credits available 16$ for 1000fpps and 8 $ for 500 fpps so the initial aim is to get that 16$ Bonus by the end of the month.
back to last nights though these were the big hands.

This hand the villain had gone all in every hand for his three hands and had already lost a buyin.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.40)
UTG+1 Ste2fbXL ($12.80)
CO Hodorkovski ($7.35)
BTN elcapitan29 ($6.75)
SB mumu0_10 ($19.00)
BB L0lsker ($13.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG Nine of Clubs

Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, elcapitan29 goes all-in $6.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.35

Flop: Jack of Hearts

($13.65, 2 players)

Turn: Eight of Clubs

($13.65, 2 players)

River: Jack of Diamonds

($13.65, 2 players)

Final Pot: $13.65
Hero shows: Nine of Clubs

elcapitan29 shows: Seven of Spades

Hero wins $13 ( won +$6.25 )
elcapitan29 lost -$6.75

---------------------------------------------------------------------
villains second hand.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG jucanelas ($10.55)
CO terush142 ($10.00)
BTN yapa6eu ($10.00)
SB Hero ($16.25)
BB Taylan69 ($9.30)
[terush142 posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.25, 5 players) Hero is SB Ace of Spades

1 fold, terush142 raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: Ace of Clubs

($0.90, 2 players)
Hero checks, terush142 bets $0.70, Hero raises to $1.80, terush142 calls $1.10

Turn: Three of Diamonds

($4.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.70, terush142 goes all-in $7.80, Hero calls $5.10

River: Nine of Spades

($20.10, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.10
Hero shows: Ace of Spades

terush142 shows: Six of Spades

Hero wins $19.15 ( won +$9.15 )
terush142 lost -$10

------------------------------------------------------------------
and then it started
villain was 86/25/2.4 8.3 3bet%

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Deathfart42 ($10.00)
UTG+1 Hero ($21.90)
CO D'wilius ($9.45)
BTN mykel99945 ($10.30)
SB casiopayo ($8.95)
BB Chanel29 ($9.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Ace of Hearts

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, casiopayo calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: Five of Spades

($0.90, 2 players)
casiopayo bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1, casiopayo calls $0.70

Turn: Four of Diamonds

($2.90, 2 players)
casiopayo checks, Hero bets $9.30, casiopayo goes all-in $7.55

River: Eight of Spades

($19.75, 2 players)

Final Pot: $18
Hero shows: Ace of Hearts

casiopayo shows: Ace of Clubs

Hero wins $1.75 ( lost -$8.95 )
casiopayo wins $17.15 ( won +$8.20 )

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villain was 29/5/1.2 over 76 hands.
Having showed strength pre ....it ended up trying to bluff him off his hand and kicking myself.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG D'wilius ($9.55)
UTG+1 mykel99945 ($19.30)
CO casiopayo ($10.35)
BTN Chanel29 ($9.80)
SB Deathfart42 ($12.10)
BB Hero ($12.40)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB King of Spades

1 fold, mykel99945 raises to $0.40, casiopayo calls $0.40, Chanel29 calls $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.40, mykel99945 calls $1, casiopayo folds, Chanel29 calls $1

Flop: Nine of Diamonds

($4.65, 3 players)
Hero bets $2.40, mykel99945 folds, Chanel29 calls $2.40

Turn: Three of Spades

($9.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $4.20, Chanel29 goes all-in $6, Hero calls $1.80

River: Six of Hearts

($21.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.45
Hero shows: King of Spades

Chanel29 shows: Seven of Diamonds

Chanel29 wins $20.40 ( won +$10.60 )
Hero lost -$9.80
mykel99945 lost -$1.40
casiopayo lost -$0.40

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villain was 13/11/1.5. 13% 3bet%

was thinking that he was probably on JJ+ ,AK and discounted AA KK and AKsince I and the board had so many blockers.Coupled with his high 3bet% which I thought meant he probably would have had a smaller pocket pair as he might have 4bet a premium PP.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Deathfart42 ($11.30)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN mykel99945 ($17.15)
SB casiopayo ($11.60)
BB Chanel29 ($20.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO Ace of Spades

Deathfart42 raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, 3 folds, Deathfart42 calls $1

Flop: King of Hearts

($2.95, 2 players)
Deathfart42 checks, Hero bets $2, Deathfart42 calls $2

Turn: Six of Diamonds

($6.95, 2 players)
Deathfart42 checks, Hero goes all-in $6.60, Deathfart42 calls $6.60

River: Ten of Clubs

($20.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.15
Deathfart42 shows: King of Diamonds

Hero shows: Ace of Spades

Deathfart42 wins $19.20 ( won +$9.20 )
Hero lost -$10

--------------------------------------------------------------------

same villain as the AK hand

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Deathfart42 ($11.30)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN mykel99945 ($17.15)
SB casiopayo ($11.60)
BB Chanel29 ($20.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO Ace of Spades

Deathfart42 raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, 3 folds, Deathfart42 calls $1

Flop: King of Hearts

($2.95, 2 players)
Deathfart42 checks, Hero bets $2, Deathfart42 calls $2

Turn: Six of Diamonds

($6.95, 2 players)
Deathfart42 checks, Hero goes all-in $6.60, Deathfart42 calls $6.60

River: Ten of Clubs

($20.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.15
Deathfart42 shows: King of Diamonds

Hero shows: Ace of Spades

Deathfart42 wins $19.20 ( won +$9.20 )
Hero lost -$10

hey dude!

well, glad you're back, sorry you're having a rough time though. Suckage.

ok, remember my fold motto? for the AK hand, betting into 2 players with such a large bet is gambling unless maybe you had a decent size PP such as at least 88 but TT, QQ, then AJ. I don't think i'm cbetting anything else here (infact i might even c/r 99, JJ, 77 here).

Don't get wed do those 3bet hands that miss. And infact, pre flop, it really sucks but if you 3bet AK against 3 people, you may well not get it headsup. It's like that whether i just call with the AK here coz of how loose people are going to be and how they're not folding. Sucks balls but if you did hit, you'd probably be way ahead anyway and would take them by surprise. That said, that prick should not have called at any point during the whole ordeal. Those hands piss me off, coz normally here he has to put QQ, KK, AA in your range.

AA hand. If i get AA and it's a 3bet pot and KK hits the board, i will be cbetting. But look, by the turn it's complete rainbow, and barely connecting at all, so you're not getting called by worse, so never shove here, he's only calling with a K which is always in a villain's range here somewhere. Infact, you HAVE to put a K in his calling range once you get to the turn. So i would pot control and get to showdown cheaply. These guys LOVE to call with any A K or Q.

Remember how these big all-in pots are rarely a fight over who has the best kicker in a top pair situation. They've usually hit 2 pair or a set. So when you get AA just realise that it is only a pair, if that board looks like it hit your opponent hard and he's betting like it hit him hard, be prepared to toss them away. Note: use one's own instincts here.

This advice is verging on the nit style but i swear you need it to survive 10nl. It's not 5 where they don't have it. Some exceptions as you've shown but like, you knew he was a spew tard and they are the exceptions.

Best of luck, let me sweat you once you get back into regular game.

thanks Andy, milking this weekend so only got a short session in last night, probably about 150 hands. But what a heater, Bankroll is now back up to $356.28 and 716 fpps. I'll post the hands tonight but it was same sort of situations as last night , just the AA 's held up.
Got into an interesting situation last night with AA , i think i was BB, UTG raised to $0.40 and there were 3or 4 callers. I 3bet it up to $2 and they all folded. Question is ....what should I have 3 bet? too small and would end up with too many callers and then pricing in even more callers and multiway less chance of the AA standing up , too big and they all fold , not sure if the 2$ ish on the table was the best option after all. Will dig the hand out tonight as well and stick it in the beginners circle for opinions.

I think that's not too bad. I mean think about it, you may get two callers taking your equity down, may lose a buy-in. As it stood you took down a reasonable pot pre flop and then moved on. No biggy.

It is funny though, i think about $1.40 is usually fine but if you sense that you're going to called by more than one caller, better just take it down there with the $2 and IF you get one idiot who calls, then you're in a nice bloated pot with AA.

each situation will be quite different. Lately most of my AA and KK have been folded to me, so that sucks in a different way. Quick tip though, you get AK and 3bet a total unknown and he calls. If you want to play tight, just chill out post flop until you know his game. Maybe even check it down if you miss. Thing is, in a 3bet pot, if you cbet good with air, it's not long before you're somewhat pot committed. Just cool off and wait for a better spot. Trust me, all these spots add up.

ok got the sizes wrong but postedthe AA 3bet hand in BC

as for last nights hands
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG MistaWilson ($10.75)
UTG+1 AArTisTT ($15.20)
CO bigstealer ($6.65)
BTN boy2minhz ($7.20)
SB Hero ($29.55)
BB jucanelas ($10.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB Ace of Spades

MistaWilson calls $0.10, 1 fold, bigstealer calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, MistaWilson calls $0.40, bigstealer calls $0.40

Flop: Six of Clubs

($1.60, 3 players)
Hero bets $1.30, MistaWilson calls $1.30, bigstealer folds

Turn: Five of Diamonds

($4.20, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.80, MistaWilson calls $3.80

River: Four of Spades

($11.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $6, MistaWilson goes all-in $5.15

Final Pot: $22.10
Hero shows: Ace of Spades

MistaWilson shows: King of Hearts

Hero wins $21.90 ( won +$10.30 )
MistaWilson lost -$10.75
bigstealer lost -$0.50
-------------------------------------------------------------$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Ouhi ($5.75)
UTG+1 elwapo07 ($11.35)
CO Hero ($12.35)
BTN zu san li ($6.60)
SB gr2player ($10.95)
BB upsista ($9.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO Queen of Hearts

1 fold, elwapo07 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, gr2player calls $0.45, 1 fold, elwapo07 folds

Flop: King of Clubs

($1.20, 2 players)
gr2player bets $0.60, Hero raises to $1.20, gr2player calls $0.60

Turn: Jack of Hearts

($3.60, 2 players)
gr2player checks, Hero bets $1.70, gr2player calls $1.70

River: King of Spades

($7, 2 players)
gr2player checks, Hero bets $6.30, gr2player calls $6.30

Final Pot: $19.60
gr2player shows: King of Hearts

Hero shows: Queen of Hearts

Hero wins $18.65 ( won +$8.95 )
gr2player lost -$9.70
elwapo07 lost -$0.10
------------------------------------------------------------------------
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG bigstealer ($4.55)
CO 7Doyley7 ($9.85)
BTN Hero ($17.55)
SB Jannah0515 ($9.30)
BB QLB1976 ($7.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN Ace of Clubs

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Jannah0515 calls $0.35, QLB1976 raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.50, Jannah0515 folds, QLB1976 goes all-in $7.60, Hero calls $5.10

Flop: Queen of Spades

($15.60, 2 players)

Turn: Ten of Spades

($15.60, 2 players)

River: Seven of Clubs

($15.60, 2 players)

Final Pot: $15.60
Hero shows: Ace of Clubs

QLB1976 shows: King of Clubs

Hero wins $14.85 ( won +$7.25 )
Jannah0515 lost -$0.40
QLB1976 lost -$7.60
--------------------------------------------------------------
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ugly_1963 ($9.80)
UTG+1 QLB1976 ($8.30)
CO bigstealer ($5.60)
BTN 7Doyley7 ($10.00)
SB Hero ($10.00)
BB gutsfulofpok ($5.40)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB Ace of Hearts

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, gutsfulofpok calls $0.30

Flop: Six of Spades

($0.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, gutsfulofpok raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $5.70, gutsfulofpok goes all-in $3.60

Turn: Five of Diamonds

($11.50, 2 players)

River: Four of Hearts

($11.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.80
Hero shows: Ace of Hearts

gutsfulofpok shows: Ace of Diamonds

Hero wins $11 ( won +$4.90 )
gutsfulofpok lost -$5.40
-------------------------------------------------------------
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG MistaWilson ($11.70)
CO AArTisTT ($15.50)
BTN bigstealer ($5.75)
SB Boy8419 ($4.70)
BB Hero ($25.50)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB King of Hearts

2 folds, bigstealer raises to $0.30, Boy8419 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, bigstealer folds, Boy8419 calls $1

Flop: Four of Hearts

($3.30, 2 players)
Boy8419 goes all-in $3.20, Hero calls $3.20

Turn: Queen of Clubs

($9.70, 2 players)

River: King of Diamonds

($9.70, 2 players)

Final Pot: $9.70
Boy8419 shows: Ace of Diamonds

Hero shows: King of Hearts

Hero wins $9.25 ( won +$4.55 )
Boy8419 lost -$4.70
bigstealer lost -$0.30
---------------------------------------------------------------
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG upsista ($10.00)
UTG+1 trackstar800 ($20.05)
CO elwapo07 ($15.35)
BTN Hero ($21.60)
SB zu san li ($9.80)
BB Virix ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Spades

2 folds, elwapo07 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, zu san li calls $0.35, 1 fold, elwapo07 calls $0.30

Flop: Three of Hearts

($1.30, 3 players)
zu san li bets $0.40, elwapo07 calls $0.40, Hero raises to $3.60, zu san li calls $3.20, elwapo07 folds

Turn: King of Hearts

($8.90, 2 players)
zu san li checks, Hero bets $10.60, zu san li folds

Final Pot: $8.90

Hero wins $19.10 ( won +$4.50 )
elwapo07 lost -$0.80
zu san li lost -$4

some nice good hands there, thankfully the fish are stacking off light. Always nice. I'm surprised these days how seldom that happens. In my sesh tonight, i stacked one person when i was miles behind, a half stack, then one full on full stack.... in 750 hands!

two things. One... don't be calling that flop with the missed AK, but i think you already know that. Although serves the poopyhead right for calling a 3bet with CRAP. Ouw there's nothing more satisfying. And two, Q3s from the button, after one limper? i might do this but i wouldn't want to tell my friends i did it. Tight tight tight.

i think it's like, the more advanced you are, the wider your range is allowed to be because you know how to play those hands. I guess the way i see it is you have to earn the right to play a wider range. Until then, i feel it should be below 20% for sure.

I'm running around 18/14 of late. I have to. But very recently have started to sneak in the odd 89s or 9Ts from early positions.

Learn to enjoy not being in pots. Enjoy folding. Drop the cards like they're on fire. Yeuch! 56o from the button against a 40vp and a 55vp. Bin it, they're calling with any A, K or Q.

Today i started playing... 20 hands in i'm down a fuckin buy-in, almost a THOUSAND hands later i claw my way up to break even through good plays. Felt rather proud of myself. Been 5 tabling lately too. Could do with a nice heater but of late my defensive game has been solid so am hardly losing. This is what it is to tighten up, get away from the crap so the boat doesn't sink! Then you can start paddling.

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